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At this point, what do people think he is?
Legit question.
Someone asked me if I felt he was OVER-rated last week.
I said, we know who he is at this point.
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At this point, what do people think he is?
Legit question.
Someone asked me if I felt he was OVER-rated last week.
I said, we know who he is at this point.
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Yea I know many highly biased NBA players would make that claim.
Many having idolized Kobe at one point.
I still say anyone that puts KObe in a Top 5 list needs to be drug tested.
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If you asked me this question 5 years ago, I would've said no. But he's surpassed Kobe a few years ago. He's the better player with the better career.
It's easy to compare the two, because they both came out of HS and relatively will have the same length of time in the NBA.
Lebron had a greater peak than Kobe. I'd take Kobe over LeBron if I was making a team though.
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I just want to know how Kobe's resume is EASILY greater than Bird's . ( LikeMVP claimed )
Bird
12x All Star
10x All NBA (9 1st team selections)
3x All Defensive
3x league MVP
2x Finals MVP
1x All Star MVP
3x champ
Bean
18x All Star
15x All NBA (11 1st team selections)
12x All Defense (9 1st team selections)
2x scoring champ
1x league MVP
2x Finals MVP
4x All Star MVP
5x champ
I mean it seems really clear but go ahead and argue with yourself.
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I'd say so...
Not so sure about what the outcome would've been with both teams at full strength. Nuggets won 2 of the 3 games they played, all of which were in January and all were good, and Murray averaged 25 in those games. In the game they lost (by 3), they didn't have MPJ.
Nuggets were really clicking right after the deadline when they were at full health. Looked really strong, but that unfortunately only lasted like 4 games. Having a guy like Murray who can legit catch fire like he's shown he's capable of, can make a massive difference.
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Championships are a team award.
Considering the body of work and awards and accolades those are the top 3. GOAT is Jordan. Kareem is close. Bron can't be considered #1
I just gave you the top 3
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The crazy thing about it is that finals MVP didn't exist throughout Bill Russell's career and defensive player of the year didn't exist throughout Bill Russell's career (and most of Kareem's career).
Bill Russell would most likely be sitting on 6-10 Finals MVPs and numerous DPOY effectively ending the GOAT debate For those who boil it down to solely championships and Finals MVPs (those Jordan fans whose entire argument is 6-0, 6 Finals MVPs).
Kareem would have at least three DPOY awards in his prime years in the '70s.
Fun fact: with LeBron's loss, Bill Russell is now the only player to have never lost in the first round
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Of course YOU would say THAT.
Posting accomplishments out of context is the way to go.
Nice job there.
Like I said before, MOST people with any sense wouldn't agree with your claim but continue to make it seem like EYE's the one trippin.
You got it, we can move on.
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Give me who you think is the weakest of the bottom of the top 10 and I'll tell you why they are OBJECTIVELY ahead of Kobe
There is no objective top 10 list. Everything we're arguing is based on opinions and different criteria.
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There is no objective top 10 list. Everything we're arguing is based on opinions and different criteria.
In order to have objectivity, there needs to be a standardized criteria. Some of y'all REALLY put a lot of equity onto Finals MVP's
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Relax
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Bird played 449 fewer games than Kobe at a different position in a different era.
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I'm almost certain everyone in the top 10 has at least 2x FMVP or closeIn order to have objectivity, there needs to be a standardized criteria. Some of y'all REALLY put a lot of equity onto Finals MVP's
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And making the playoffs isn't TEAM based?
Funny how you understand how that works for certain people and not others.
BUt you make it your life's mission to discredit Steph.
Keep it up.
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Y'all ranking Trump over Abe Lincoln? I am.
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Great point. Blocks weren't even formally counted during Bill's time in the league.
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I don't need to discredit Steph, his resume speaks for itself. He ain't top 10 either
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...Wait, some of ya'll think Kobe was a role player?
And some of ya'll said Kobe wasn't top 10 when he was alive.
He had older legends and his own peers putting him in the top 10. Only dude I think not putting him in the top 10 was Nick Wright. That is only because he stole Nick's first wife or something.Wild the gymnastics going on in here to try and prove there point is right. Logic be damn.
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I am asking a quesiton.
Why do you think I am not relaxed.
I am legit asking, WHAT do people think Ben Simmons is for us to keep asking/saying he is overrated?
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Bean was as good of a player at minimum as Bird for a much longer period of time. What other context is needed? Don't answer it's rhetorical.
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which one is Novaxx
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We aren't talking about him being Top 10.
The fact remains, YOU can sit here and say the words, "Championships are a team accomplishment"
BUT
You have spent the last 8 months discussing Steph's fading legacy due to his TEAM'S lack of success during the 20-21 season.
If you can't see the hypocrisy in that then I don't know what to tell you.
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