Official 2016-2017 NBA Season Thread - NBA rules Chris Bosh has a career ending injury

[P C H]

The real questions is.... If you are starting up a brand new team right now who would you rather build around Kyrie or Wall?

Wall is better overall but I have to go with kyrie. Dude has that killer instinct few players have

What??

How do you even measure "Killer instinct"

 

[the collector]

The real questions is.... If you are starting up a brand new team right now who would you rather build around Kyrie or Wall?

Wall is better overall but I have to go with kyrie. Dude has that killer instinct few players have

When Kyrie was the man on Cleveland the went to the lottery every season.

Wall actually led the Wizards to the second round of the playoffs as the man.

Explain to me how Kyries scoring and killer instinct results to winning?

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Wall ain't no great scorer. He can't go off the way Kyrie can. At the same time Kyrie ain't the playmaker/passer or defender that Wall is. They have nothing in common in styles.

Common sense tells me if Kyrie doesn't pass up shots and is more scoring focused he should be more then one point better then the guy who passes up the shot and is more passing focused.

So either Wall is such a great scorer he can do everything else and still average one point less then Irving or Irving who focuses on scoring isn't the great scorer everyone makes him out to be.

Wall got the ball in his hands way more than Kyrie too. If Lebron wasn't there Kyrie might be getting 26 or 27 a game. Wall gets his point by being a great athlete and faster than Kyrie. Kyrie points come from his skill, his shooting. Dude literally looks like a mini Kobe with the footwork.

 

[tyevvyotcu]

stop with this "mamba blood" **** too lol even on xmas kyrie was garbage through the 1st 3 quarters

 

[nick.]

The real questions is.... If you are starting up a brand new team right now who would you rather build around Kyrie or Wall?


Wall is better overall but I have to go with kyrie. Dude has that killer instinct few players have

What??

How do you even measure "Killer instinct"

Killer Instinct Factor (KIF) is measured in scowls & screams per minute

Russ is leading the league with 1.3

 

[the collector]

Killer Instinct Factor (KIF) is measured in scowls & screams per minute

Russ is leading the league with 1.3

Ha ha ha

 

[dman14]

stop with this "mamba blood" **** too lol even on xmas kyrie was garbage through the 1st 3 quarters

mamba blood encourages more shots even on off nights

I would go 0-30 before I would go 0-9. 0-9 means you beat yourself, you psyched yourself out of the game, because Deron Williams can get more shots in the game. The only reason is because you've just now lost confidence in yourself

 

[tyevvyotcu]

russ should use his athleticism like Wall does. Wall uses it spurts but Russ is going 100mph all the time

 

[Lovetohate3000]

Mamba blood stupidest term. Even the nickname black Mamba was wack as hell.

 

[lynchpin33]

Windhorst saying the Cavs have no use for a ball stopping shooter. That's not how they play.

 

[P C H]

Mamba blood stupidest term. Even the nickname black Mamba was wack as hell.

Always thought it was forced.

Vino was a way better nickname.  Loved that one.

 

[Lovetohate3000]

Windhorst saying the Cavs have no use for a ball stopping shooter. That's not how they play.

this Hella obvious

 

[MVP]

mamba blood encourages more shots even on off nights

That critical point where your 0-10 and you have a choice whether to stay 0-10 or go 0-30. No conscience. Myrie and Russ def have the blood in abundance.

 

[tyevvyotcu]

Windhorst saying the Cavs have no use for a ball stopping shooter. That's not how they play.

but..... nvm

 

[the collector]

Mamba blood stupidest term. Even the nickname black Mamba was wack as hell.

I've always liked the term. Thought it was funny. Russ definitely has Mamba Blood running through his vains.

 

[tyevvyotcu]

honestly what's the difference between dame kyrie and it2?

 

[firstclass]

well Wall has won playoff series as the best player on his team and kyrie has never even come close to doing so, therefore it's Wall easily

Imagine having Dion Waiters as your second best player and trying to make the Playoffs.


Imagine.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Mamba blood ain't going nowhere.

 

[captaintuxable]

Imagine having Dion Waiters as your second best player and trying to make the Playoffs.


Imagine.

I agree with this. Kyrie's teams prior to Lebron were horrendous. Asking a lot out of a young PG to get a playoff bid.

 

[tyevvyotcu]

Imagine having Dion Waiters as your second best player and trying to make the Playoffs.


Imagine.

is bradley beal that much better than dion was then?
not to mention beal is always hurt. there's no reason he couldn't have gotten them to atleast an 8 seed in a weak conference.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

honestly what's the difference between dame kyrie?

Now that comparison makes better sense.

 

[tyevvyotcu]

also if Bron was off the Cavs now they wouldn't be a playoff team with kyrie leading so that's irrelevant

 

[captaintuxable]

also if Bron was off the Cavs now they wouldn't be a playoff team with kyrie leading so that's irrelevant

This is a reach. As currently constructed, without Lebron, they are at least getting 7th or 8th seed.

 

[ill steelo]

honestly what's the difference between dame kyrie and it2?

Kyrie's efficiency doesn't fall off a cliff in the playoffs.

 

[the collector]

is bradley beal that much better than dion was then?
not to mention beal is always hurt. there's no reason he couldn't have gotten them to atleast an 8 seed in a weak conference.

THIS

Who are all these All Stars Wall played alongside? Wall made his teammates better because he knows how to effectively play the PG position. Irving is a scorer unable to make his teammates better or get them better shots. His assist totals through his first few seasons were all time bad for a PG. Like 18 double doubles in a 4 year span.