Official 2011 NBA Finals Thread: Dallas Mavericks are the 2011 NBA Champions. VOL: KidDirk get rings

[dvdjamm5150]

King James? Better than MJ?

 

[ballinsam23]

double

 

[ldj]

MrONegative wrote:

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Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

DubA169 wrote:

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Im Not You wrote:

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He NOT built for that at all�

him doing this in new york would be insane
in florida the media defends him. in new york they would HAMMER him


No one could protect him. He ain't about that responsibility.
This dude's whole mentality is %##@!* up. It's not even that he's not clutch. He is. It's that when he's not feeling like the GOAT, he sits his +@$ down and hopes teacher doesn't call on him for an answer. FOH. Going to Miami was the best decision he had made for him. Even Noah would've aired his own teammate out after a Game 4&5.

You know actually...I woulda wished that on Chicago. Stunt Pooh's growth and everything.�

   Iuno cause nyc has let the lackluster and uninspired play of melo and amare, particularly in the playoffs slide. i mean we all know that neither dude is ever going to win dpoy but the way they played d, you would think teams snuck in and put gorilla glue on the bottom of their sneakers. Hands down the best and consistent player they had was an arguably over the hill billups. So iuno why would they crucify lbj and not melo/amare?

 

[cato312]

Originally Posted by MrONegative

Originally Posted by DubA169

Originally Posted by Im Not You


He NOT built for that at all�

him doing this in new york would be insane
in florida the media defends him. in new york they would HAMMER him

No one could protect him. He ain't about that responsibility.
This dude's whole mentality is %##@!* up. It's not even that he's not clutch. He is. It's that when he's not feeling like the GOAT, he sits his +@$ down and hopes teacher doesn't call on him for an answer. FOH. Going to Miami was the best decision he had made for him. Even Noah would've aired his own teammate out after a Game 4&5.

You know actually...I woulda wished that on Chicago. Stunt Pooh's growth and everything.�

Hey, hey now...

 

[duba169]

i gotta admit i agree with ska even though it's not very rational. just a gut feeling

 

[stc153393]

LeBron fans can't make fun of Pierce even if he faked it. Pierce= 1 ring as a leader. LeBron= attempting to get first as the 3RD PLAYER

Just saw LeBron making fun of Dirk. smh
Baby Bron Bron is an idiot. Yea he got a triple double, but probably one of the most forgettable and worst trip doubs ever.
Dude is just a pure choker, not a leader. D-Wade is so much closer to MJ than anyone else.
Wade has so much heart and does anything he can to win.....LeBron, not so much.

 

[ballinsam23]

just wondering, IF the mavs do win game 6, do some of ya'll still think the NBA is rigged? I dont get it......

Mavs win in 6 - ?
Mavs win in 7 - NBA is rigged. Stern wanted a game 7 for ratings.
Heat win in 7 - NBA is rigged. Stern needs a new Jordan image and wants Lebron to be that.

 

[duba169]

i dont know. i'm starting to think it's more that the refs are terrible at their job and incredibly biased. instead of a stern conspiracy

just makes more sense

i'm seeing whistles blown even when players are blocking the vision of the ref blowing his whistle. if danny crawford is in 6 or 7 mavs are screwed

i don't even think the pivot foot matters anymore.

 

[walter mercado]

jebron-i ain't built for this

 

[grimey]

 

[stc153393]

LeBron is an idiot. How can he make fun of a guy who played sick and clearly outplayed LeBron all series.
Wade and Bosh have been carrying the Heat all series.
LeBron really ruined his legacy and the highest he'll ever rank in all time rankings is Top 10, maybe.
Kobe, Dirk, and D-Wade are top 3 in the league. D-Wade might be the best closer/competitor in the game today

 

[doublejs07]

Originally Posted by Grimey

If you're gonna mock Dirk for being sick, then don't get shown up and LOSE game 5.  Surprised at Wade doing this tho....this the same guy who got carted off the court in a wheelchair for a separated shoulder.

 

[joegolfdad]

Originally Posted by Ballinsam23

just wondering, IF the mavs do win game 6, do some of ya'll still think the NBA is rigged? I dont get it......

Mavs win in 6 - ?
Mavs win in 7 - NBA is rigged. Stern wanted a game 7 for ratings.
Heat win in 7 - NBA is rigged. Stern needs a new Jordan image and wants Lebron to be that.

exactly, people try to spin it every way possible. Bottom line who ever makes the most plays will win, some of you guys go way too hard on the conspiracy stuff

 

[hood17]

The last few pages deserve this

 

[darthska]

Ballinsam23:

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just wondering, IF the mavs do win game 6, do some of ya'll still think the NBA is rigged? I dont get it......

Mavs win in 6 - ?
Mavs win in 7 - NBA is rigged. Stern wanted a game 7 for ratings.
Heat win in 7 - NBA is rigged. Stern needs a new Jordan image and wants Lebron to be that.
My answer to your question is no, not this year. If the Mavs win in 6, I'll gladly admit being wrong about 'the powers that be', at least for this year.

 

[darthska]

DubA169:

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i'm seeing whistles blown even when players are blocking the vision of the ref blowing his whistle.
Dirk stripped Bosh in the 3rd quarter of game 3, and the ref who called the foul was the baseline ref, and the strip happened on the other side of Bosh's body, meaning the ref would have needed x-ray vision to have seen Dirk's 'foul'. As soon as the whistle was called, that was my first thought; "How the hell could you even see a foul? You saw THROUGH Bosh and Dirk?"

Then they showed a replay, where it was clear Dirk had ALL BALL as his hand swiped down and stripped the ball out of Bosh's hands, and I couldn't help but laugh and shake my head like "Whatever. I see what's going on."

 

[kobe8is]

Originally Posted by University of Nike

Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

Dwyane Wade is playing like someone took a dump in his breakfast.

One thing is for damn sure: He ain't winning Finals MVP. Chris Bosh will win it before him. And not just based on tonight so far, but the whole Bulls series as well.

Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

Complete mental breakdown by the Heat. Props to the Mavs. But in the end, they came back only because the Heat let them come back. It's like they got bored when they had a huge 88-73 lead. Had the game been tied halfway through the fourth, the Heat would've won. When they turn it up, the Heat completely control the game. It's obvious that they're the better team. They just got overconfident. Spoelstra just needs to motivate his players better.

I really don't know how anyone seriously thinks that Mavs will win this series.

Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

Someone please watch the last 4 minutes of the game and convince me that the Heat were playing like they even remotely gave a damn. Even when Dirk hit that 3, he was wide open. That wasn't happening earlier when the Heat played with proper intensity.

In the first half, the Mavs were moving the ball on offense to perfection with all 5 players touching it, yet the Heat were there to meet every pass and not get any Mavs player get an open shot. I'm especially thinking of that one time when the Mavs kept passing the ball like 10+ times and the shot clock expired because no one could get a shot. They are not getting the shots they got against the Lakers, unless the Heat simply stop caring. Which is what they did at the end of the game.

Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

See yall after game 3 with a new set of ref complaints/saltiness that the Heat is winning the championship.

Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

That is utter crap. No way in hell did they control the first half in game 2. The score in the first half was close, but both the commentators and the posters of this forum were saying that it feels that the Heat were in control and that they should be ahead. After the score started reflecting the play on the court, the Heat's lead skyrocketed until they stopped caring and allowed the comeback.

Other than the comeback, which really was more, or at least was just as much about Heat being out of control because they thought they had the game won than the Mavs being in control, the only part of the series that the Mavs controlled so far was the start of the third quarter in game 1.

Other than that, I really don't know what series you've been watching. It is evident that for all the hype about their supposedly great defense, the Mavs can do absolutely nothing about either Wade or LeBron, who were having a much harder time against the Celtics and Bulls defenses. The Mavs, for all their great ball movement that worked so well against the Lakers still can't get to open shots when the Heat defense is on. The Heat are there to meet every pass, sometimes even until the shot clock expires. Their other main weapon, Dirk Nowitzki, has been shooting 42.5% and the most damage he's done so far has been from the free throw line. The only true problem for the Heat so far has been Shawn Marion. But seriously, what is more likely? That Marion keeps up with his play so far or that LeBron and Wade do?

All the Heat management needs to do is get through their thick skulls the fact that Chris Bosh, a guy who is shooting 26% from the field is averaging 17 shots per game, while a guy who is shooting 55%, LeBron, is averaging 15.5 shots.

Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

Miami had a huge lead in the fourth and blew it again. This team would be so much better if all players were forbidden to look at the scoreboard and then just play without knowing how much they were ahead/behind. You can clearly see that Spoelstra desperately tried to avoid the same scenario as in game 2 by calling a time-out immediately after Terry made two baskets as the Mavs were making a comeback, but it didn't work. It wasn't as big of a collapse as in game 2, but the Heat still blew it. All they had to do is play defense and they would've won. The Mavs even missed some open 3s.

LeBron was bad, but not as bad as some haters want to make it look. He couldn't get it going scoring-wise, but he made some excellent passes. What bothers me the most this game is not him not scoring, but not playing great defense like at the end of game 3. If he did that again, the Heat would've won. Instead he let Terry blow by him. After playing defense like that on Rose, the quickest player in the league, not being able to play better defense on Terry is hard to believe.

Wade has been phenomenal. He really is by far the best shot blocking guard in history. Right now he's clearly the finals MVP. IMO, he's clearly the MVP even if the Mavs win. Nowitzki has been horrible for everything but the first 5% and the last 5% of the game.

Whether they win or lose this series, Miami needs to do everything they can to get Nene/Dalembert. Some say that they also need a point guard, but getting a point guard for them is a microscopic problem compared to their lack of size. It's unbelievable how consistently Tyson Chandler is able to grab offensive rebounds. Surreal that such an advantage can take place in the NBA. Looks like something that could only take place at a high school level where there is one kid who physically outmatches the rest.

In the end, after losing game 2, it was great that they won game 3 and took the home court advantage back. I don't think that the Mavs can win in Miami again.

Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

It was like game 4 against the Lakers. The Mavs couldn't miss a shot.

I still feel confident that Heat can take the two remaining at home. It took a 15 collapse in the 4th for the Mavs to win one there, and I don't see the Heat being that dumb again.

Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

To be fair, he also had a very contested layup potential and one. It just didn't count on the scoreboard, because he was called for an offensive foul even though Chandler's foot was clearly inside the circle. But haters ain't fair. He did miss some shots he should've made though, there's no denying that. And he should've taken advantage against the Kidd mismatch. But tonight's game was more about Mavs hitting everything they threw up in the air.

Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

All I want is the haters who were saying that the refs would win this series for the Heat well before a single minute of the series was played to shut the *!$+ up and see what the refs are actually doing.

Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

Originally Posted by mustbetheshoe58


caaaaan't wait!

i hope stevenson checks lebron the whole game..its going to be just like old times

remember the soulja boy vs. jay-z fiasco back in 2008..had me

Old times like how? Old times like LeBron ending up as the winner of the series? I'll give you that.

Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

Maybe true, but they have faced not one but two defenses that are better than the Mavs. For all this talk about how Mavs are a defensive powerhouse, their defense is definitely not better than either the Celtics nor the Bulls. Even though they are better defensively than the mid 00s Mavs who were known as all-O, no-D teams.

Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

32-26 free throw attempts in favor of the Mavs.



Dirk shot almost twice as many free throws as LeBron and Wade combined. Got the whistle every time he drove to the basket.



The Mavs committed only one more foul more than the Heat.



Haters, look elsewhere for an explanation as to why the Heat won/Mavs lost. Mainly the rebounding numbers.



The scared, salty haters have been saying how the refs would win the series for the Heat ever since it became evident that the two teams will be playing against each other in the finals. So they are just looking to complain about the fouls extra hard, no matter how the game is officiated. Just like a some random object in the water can look a lot like the Loch Ness monster for someone who is staring at the lake and hoping really hard to see the monster.

Damn.

  

 

[onetrust]

 at this thread. 

If Miami wins this series it's rigged, but if Dallas wins, it was ALL legit...Oooookaaayyyyy.

 

[doublejs07]

@Xpotoato

 

[lbj23navo]

Making fun of Dirk was stupid to do on camera but the media is blowing it way out of proportion as usual. 

 

[mronegative]

LBJ23navo wrote:

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Making fun of Dirk was stupid to do on camera but the media is blowing it way out of proportion as usual. 

How is that out of proporti---nvm.*cough stan cough*

 

[ldj]

Originally Posted by 23ska909red02

Ballinsam23:

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just wondering, IF the mavs do win game 6, do some of ya'll still think the NBA is rigged? I dont get it......

Mavs win in 6 - ?
Mavs win in 7 - NBA is rigged. Stern wanted a game 7 for ratings.
Heat win in 7 - NBA is rigged. Stern needs a new Jordan image and wants Lebron to be that.

My answer to your question is no, not this year. If the Mavs win in 6, I'll gladly admit being wrong about 'the powers that be', at least for this year.



Yea it has ben some questionable actions in the nba, from the houston draft, the ewing pic name out the lottery machine and put it back, the ny/indiani series against the bulls, the bulls vs the sonics, one of the lakers run i think against the kings, and another finals one. and the 06 finals. But this year im not sure what would be the gaining interest if either team wins. A championship for miami wouldnt change ppl perception of the team, and a dallas win doesnt do much cause 90% of the ppl who routing for them arent fans of the team, hell of the game of basketball and just watching due to hate for the heat and lebron in particular and caught up in all the hooplah. Them winning arent going to get them into bball and watching/attending games.

 

[dman14]

Originally Posted by LBJ23navo

Making fun of Dirk was stupid to do on camera but the media is blowing it way out of proportion as usual. 

the league needs a new villian. besides, they want the casual fans to watch and pull for the underdogs

 

[k3stacks]

Originally Posted by MrONegative

LBJ23navo wrote:

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Making fun of Dirk was stupid to do on camera but the media is blowing it way out of proportion as usual. 

How is that out of proporti---nvm.*cough stan cough*

 This stanning +!! is ridiculous. I can only imagine the many excuses when the heat lose.

  

 

[|A-Man|]

Refs are notorious for anticipating fouls.

I could fake like I'm ready to foul a guy on a fast break and jump backwards and they'd still call foul.