OFFICIAL 2009 DODGERS OFFSEASON THREAD: (95-57) NL West Champs --- NLCS Chumps

A.Gon in dodger blue
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I can feel it.

Get ready Los Angeles!!!
 
[h1]Mark Cuban says he'd be interested in buying the Dodgers[/h1] [h2]Cuban says he'd base a decision on his ability to buy a controlling share as part of an ownership group. The Dodgers are not for sale, but the McCourt divorce raises questions about team's future. [/h2]
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Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban says he's heard from Dodger fans who want him to buy the team. (Derick E. Hingle / US Presswire / November 5, 2009)
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By Bill Shaikin
November 9, 2009 | 1:20 p.m.



Mark Cuban, the high-profile owner of the NBA's Dallas Mavericks, said today he would consider adding the Dodgers to his portfolio.

As the unusually public Dodgers' divorce saga plays out, Cuban said he has heard from many Dodgers fans appealing to him to buy the team.

"More than I can count," Cuban wrote in an e-mail.

Frank McCourt contends he is the sole owner of the Dodgers and insists the team is not for sale. Jamie McCourt contends she is a co-owner, and her lawyer has said she has lined up financing for a possible bid to buy out her estranged husband.

Cuban bid unsuccessfully to buy the Chicago Cubs and has expressed interest in buying his hometown Pittsburgh Pirates. He said his interest in the Dodgers would be conditional on the ability to buy a controlling share as part of an ownership group.

"I'm not a fan of debt-driven acquisitions," Cuban wrote. "If a unique situation came up where I could contribute capital to buy out a majority shareholder and gain control, with existing shareholders or note holders staying in place, I would consider it."

That situation is not currently available with the Dodgers. There are no shareholders outside the McCourt family, according to court documents.

When San Diego Padres owner John Moores and his wife, Becky, entered divorce proceedings, John Moores said he would remain the owner of the team. In order to generate the money to satisfy the divorce settlement, he had to sell the team.

Jeff Moorad led an investment group that agreed last spring to buy the Padres. Moorad has served as chief executive officer since the deal closed in March, although his group initially bought a minority stake. Moores retains majority ownership, and Moorad's group has up to five years to buy out Moores in full, according to news reports.

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but i dont see baseball letting him buy/buy in to a team
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what was the reason(s) he didnt buy the cubs/pirates?
 
Don't blame it on the Phillies

Ned Colletti is the one who's given away more prospects than I care to think about for 3 months of Casey Blake, 6 starts of Jon Garland and GeorgeSherrill.

I was really scared that he would be Brian Sabean 2.0. Hopefully whoever buys the team sends him on the first thing out of town and back to San Francisco.

btw that article is poorly titled. It basically says that they probably won't want to pay $16 Million but you never know. That's the case everywhere.If the Dodgers can move Pierre and Sherrill that frees up around $15 Million for next year, and Sherrill should command a couple of pretty good prospectsbecause he's a cheap All-Star closer under control through 2012. I don't see Ned being that shrewd. He'll probably refuse to trade Pierre becausehe's good in the clubhouse and keep Sherrill because he's a "tough veteran." I recall an article in the Times that isn't on the siteanymore but was linked here whereBeimel says he wants to be a Dodger again. Sign him for $2 Million, and have Leach or Elbert as the other lefy; I'd keep Kuo on the shelf until July. Whenhealthy he's been the best setup man in baseball, save him for the stretch run.
 
Ticket sales called again. Told him I won't be buying.

*$%% like this is why.

I feel like I used to in the 90s. No more prospects .
 
Whatever man, Casey Blake has been the only stable guy we've had at third since Beltre.

We've gone through about what ... 10+ at that position in the last ... 3-4 years?

They were banking on Russ to continue on with his All Star catcher-self but didn't realize what kinda wall he would hit once he cut off his connection withGagne.

George Sherrill, we can't emphasize what he did for us this year.

Jon Garland, who seems like he'll be back with the Dodgers was traded for a 2B who probably wasn't gonna see much time cause the organization wasalready fed up with him, I'm happy he's gonna go to a team that he'll see some time with.

The Phillies still gave up some prospects to get Cliff Lee - wonder who they have left.

I hope we make a harder push for Mark DeRosa as well.
 
Phillies ONLY prospect that matters...
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Originally Posted by bright nikes

Whatever man, Casey Blake has been the only stable guy we've had at third since Beltre.
Casey Blake is a great player, I'm a big fan of his.

That said, Carlos Santana is one of the best Catching prospects in baseball. Catching prospects are not middle infield prospects. You have a great one, youkeep him. Good catchers are hard to find and very valuable.

The fact is that it has been confirmed numerous times that Santana was included because Cleveland agreed to pay the remaining $2 Million of Blake's 2008salary.

You can call McCourt poor, or cheap or whatever you want. The fact remains that if you are a GM you simply don't make that trade if the only way you canmake it is by including Santana. It's blindly obvious to anyone who knows even a little about baseball. Particularly considering who Santana was tradedfor. Casey Blake was in the last year of his contract and was 35 years old. You have top prospects that are blocked at the ML level? You don't trade themfor players like Casey Blake. You save them and trade them for players like Roy Halladay.

George Sherrill, we can't emphasize what he did for us this year.
Josh Bell between two different AA leagues in 2009: .295/.376/.516 448 ABs, 35 2Bs, 20 HR. And numerous scouting reports this year praising himfor his improved defense.

Keep in mind our current 3B is 36. And our bullpen is great. And Sherrill is due to make $5 Million the next year.

Makes absolutely no sense. Going after Sherrill is not what I'm mad at. Sherrill has performed well and I think he's a decent reliever. Colletti justso happened to get hosed. Bell and Johnson is an incredibly steep price to pay, and Bell would have been an absolutley perfect fit in our lineup after Blake.Now we have absolutely no 3B prospects, and an old 3B who had nagging injuries all year. Stupid !%$!#$! trade.
Jon Garland, who seems like he'll be back with the Dodgers was traded for a 2B who probably wasn't gonna see much time cause the organization was already fed up with him, I'm happy he's gonna go to a team that he'll see some time with.
When you know ODog isn't coming back.

And Tony Abreu hits so well in AAA.

For a guy who doesn't even pitch in the playoffs.

Makes no !%$!#$! sense.

Fire this man.
 
Attaboy, PMAC fired up about something. Not being so PC

I've been waiting for it.

Frustration is a mother +%%%!!
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I hate this feeling
 
I had heard kid had a golden arm but wanted to be a center fielder instead cuz he liked to hit. You know him 562?
 
We had the best bullpen ERA in the Majors in 2009

I'm pretty sure that qualifies as great.
 
Originally Posted by Mr Jordan04

I had heard kid had a golden arm but wanted to be a center fielder instead cuz he liked to hit. You know him 562?

yeah bro. He played ball with my brother. Same with Reggie Williams who's in the Twinkies organization.

Both came out of the urban youth academy at Compton City College.

Good kids, Doofy +%$ hell though.

Wheels for days.
 
Originally Posted by P MAC ONE

Casey Blake is a great player, I'm a big fan of his.

That said, Carlos Santana is one of the best Catching prospects in baseball. Catching prospects are not middle infield prospects. You have a great one, you keep him. Good catchers are hard to find and very valuable.

The fact is that it has been confirmed numerous times that Santana was included because Cleveland agreed to pay the remaining $2 Million of Blake's 2008 salary.

You can call McCourt poor, or cheap or whatever you want. The fact remains that if you are a GM you simply don't make that trade if the only way you can make it is by including Santana. It's blindly obvious to anyone who knows even a little about baseball. Particularly considering who Santana was traded for. Casey Blake was in the last year of his contract and was 35 years old. You have top prospects that are blocked at the ML level? You don't trade them for players like Casey Blake. You save them and trade them for players like Roy Halladay.
Like I said, the whole reasoning for this trade was because of our All-Star catcher being the foundation for years to come, for that moment intime we NEEDED a third baseman.

Josh Bell between two different AA leagues in 2009: .295/.376/.516 448 ABs, 35 2Bs, 20 HR. And numerous scouting reports this year praising him for his improved defense.

Keep in mind our current 3B is 36. And our bullpen is great. And Sherrill is due to make $5 Million the next year.

Makes absolutely no sense. Going after Sherrill is not what I'm mad at. Sherrill has performed well and I think he's a decent reliever. Colletti just so happened to get hosed. Bell and Johnson is an incredibly steep price to pay, and Bell would have been an absolutley perfect fit in our lineup after Blake. Now we have absolutely no 3B prospects, and an old 3B who had nagging injuries all year. Stupid !%$!#$! trade.
Bro, Josh Bell could be the next Andy LaRoche (who we've argued in the past about) for all we know.

When you know ODog isn't coming back.

And Tony Abreu hits so well in AAA.

For a guy who doesn't even pitch in the playoffs.

Makes no !%$!#$! sense.

Fire this man.
That ain't Garland's fault for not pitching in the playoffs, I blame this on Torre's mental lapse on choosing Kuroda / Bills over him.

Now that makes no %!*%%$@ sense.

We had the best bullpen ERA in the Majors in 2009

I'm pretty sure that qualifies as great.
That don't mean a damn thing when we got a soft !%$ closer.

I hope Troncoso doesn't end up being the next Cory Wade
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Originally Posted by CincoSeisDos

yeah bro. He played ball with my brother. Same with Reggie Williams who's in the Twinkies organization.

Both came out of the urban youth academy at Compton City College.
now they sound familiar, the whole compton city college rang a bell.

[h2]Window shopping the 2010 Free Agent Class[/h2]
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by Phil Gurnee on Nov 9, 2009 11:52 AM PST
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Below is the table of most of the available free agents, I've added a column of interest. I have no idea who Ned may be targeting. We know we need a 2nd baseman to replace Hudson/Bellaird, someone in the rotation to replace Wolf, possibly a bullpen piece.

Tepid interest for me means that I'd like to have that player on the Dodgers, but that I expect the price to be more then I would like the Dodgers to commit to. Many of the players I said No to, are good players but are not players we need at the position they play.

Plenty of 2nd base options abound with Hudson(Arb), Belliard(Arb), Polanco, Lopez, DeRosa, even possibly Chone Figgins. Our internal options at the moment are DeWitt and DeJesus. No way Ned stays with that scenario. Figgins will be to expensive as will Polanco. I'd target DeRosa and Belliard, while hoping DeJesus can take the job away sooner then later. My expectation is that we either sign Belliard to share the job with DeWitt or we trade for a 2nd baseman. I don't believe for a 2nd the rumor of AJ Ellis for Alberto Callaspo but I'd make that trade in heartbeat.

The rotation is tricky, I'd love to take chances on the great arms of Bedard, Harden, or Sheets but after the Schmidt fiasco I can't picture Ned going that route. When healthy they offer the biggest bang but they have all proven to be extremely brittle pitchers with no guarantee's of health going forward. I don't think we need much bullpen help but I sure wouldn't mind adding the fragile arms of Soriano or Gonzalez for the right price. Given the expected budget I don't see how we can add a quality relief pitcher and we probably don't need to.

Could we trade Loney for a 2nd baseman or pitcher and sign Nick Johnson or Carlos Delgado? We could, but we won't so I'm didn't bother with scenarios like that. Maybe later.

When speculating on who we can afford I'd stay within a $100 Million budget until we see some proof that the McCourts will go above that. That is what we started 2009 at and I don't expect much of or any increase. Eric has updated the payroll and we are already at 94 Million when you take into account his expected arbitration raises. Not much room for improvement unless Ned sheds some current salary (Pierre, Sherril, Martin). Part of the problem is the large amount of money being paid to players no longer on the team. Teams on a budget will always pay the price when those future obligations come due.

In the previous thread there was talk of trading one of our arbitration eligible players. If I had to bet on anyone it would be Martin. Eric has him pegged for $6 Million this year.

Let's bring DeRosa on board.

I don't know bout trading Loney for a 2B cause I think him and Martin could be dealt for that vato down south
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