lightweight champion
Banned
- Jun 23, 2007
- 13,481
- 5,271
I'm blind? Maybe you better take off the duck mask.
Offical: Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez III 11/12/11
- Thread in 'Sports & Training' Thread starter Started by bigmike23,
- Start date
I'm blind? Maybe you better take off the duck mask.
- Oct 10, 2005
- 21,569
- 12,405
What fight was this?
elpablo21
Supporter
- Feb 11, 2008
- 106,392
- 195,769
I never understood this either.
If you win, you win...regardless of how you did it
- Nov 18, 2007
- 28,107
- 9,249
See post above. I agree if you win, you win. But JMM didnt clearly win. And when a challenger doesnt clearly win, the champ shouldnt lose his title. Call it a draw if you want.
arstyle27
Supporter
- Nov 13, 2001
- 10,544
- 3,569
The hell? I was simply showing that not every Mexican feels that Marquez was incredulously robbed.Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen
Cool story bro. A mexican says Manny won, changes everything.
I wonder where that puts me, I'm Pakistani and have a baby by a Mexican girl.
Check yourself.......
- Mar 1, 2011
- 3,107
- 13
Everyone in the world, including the three idiot judges, had Marquez winning round 4. You're the only person that I've seen yet that thinks Pac won that round - out of everything I've read, including other forums. I'd like an explanation on that one.
6 *could* have gone to Pac, but I gave it to Marquez due to consistency. Either way is fine. 114-114 is better than 116-112.
- Jun 16, 2008
- 15,990
- 5,971
Chill #internettoughguy I was joking with you. It was funny how you put it.Originally Posted by arstyle27
The hell? I was simply showing that not every Mexican feels that Marquez was incredulously robbed.Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen
Cool story bro. A mexican says Manny won, changes everything.
I wonder where that puts me, I'm Pakistani and have a baby by a Mexican girl.
Check yourself.......
elpablo21
Supporter
- Feb 11, 2008
- 106,392
- 195,769
Yeah it should have been a draw if anything because Manny didn't do much to retain a title tonight
- Jun 27, 2005
- 3,251
- 70
Marquez won this fight or at worse earned a draw.. disgusted with the result.
makita
Banned
- Nov 2, 2011
- 383
- 10
That is just not acceptable man.Originally Posted by dland24
That is not at ALL what I am saying.
Im saying that for a challenger to win a title, he has to clearly beat the champion. If there is any doubt that he won or lost, then he didnt do enough to justify taking the title from the champion. Thats how I feel about tonights fight. JMM didnt do enough to justify taking Manny's title. He put up a hell of a fight. But he didnt clearly win.
You can make just as good of a case that Manny won that you can for JMM. That alone, is enough for me to justify Manny retaining his title. Call it a draw at worst.
JMM won that fight clearly. It was not a draw, Pacquiao did not win, Marquez won it.
JMM won that title from Pacquiao, but was jobbed by the judges and probably Bob Arum.
- Feb 29, 2000
- 88,762
- 47,972
qft
but why u guys surprised boxing is the dirtiest sport in the business
- Nov 11, 2007
- 649
- 10
I don't think JMM couldn't have fought a more perfect fight because if he started to let them gloves go then you're playing Manny's game.
I saw it as a draw. At least a knock down was needed to determine the winner.
I saw it as a draw. At least a knock down was needed to determine the winner.
- Mar 16, 2008
- 17,790
- 834
Thinkin about it now, it is pretty sucky that Marquez has to suffer because of his defensive fighting style, which he executed perfectly in the fight.
A major thing i learned from this fight is that Pacquiao will probably get owned fighting against Money May. Seeing him struggle against an old, 38 yr old JMM
A major thing i learned from this fight is that Pacquiao will probably get owned fighting against Money May. Seeing him struggle against an old, 38 yr old JMM
- Mar 27, 2006
- 738
- 208
manny pacquiao clearly won, i wasn't even biting my nails at the end. very obvious that marquez didn't do enough to prove himself. only reason people had JMM winning was because no one had tested pacman like this for awhile. so every punch he landed on manny made it seem like he can be beaten. big ups to JMM. i've always been a fan of him. in the end haters gonna hate, people can cry all they want, but manny pacquiao has another win under his belt.
makita
Banned
- Nov 2, 2011
- 383
- 10
- Feb 25, 2009
- 1,245
- 10
Nope but I can give you another tip....avoid saunas, could be the end of youOriginally Posted by Zyzz
can you also give me the winnings numbers to the mega millions for tuesday? thanksOriginally Posted by FlyJr22
That is gonna be the fight of Pac Man's life, if you think he even has the slightest chance of giving Mayweather a challenge you're on that Angel Dust. And I actually like Pacquaio, but after this display tonight, things are definitely clear as to where he stands against Money May
Spoiler [+]
but if you do find yourself in one, don't sweat it...you'll still be the Wannabe King of Aesthetics
everysingletime
formerly amel223
- Apr 4, 2006
- 42,963
- 15,346
I don't care how Manny looked tonight. I still want that Mayweather fight. Given how Manny looked tonight... I cannot see why Mayweather wouldn't want to fight.
- Nov 18, 2007
- 28,107
- 9,249
Originally Posted by MAKITA
That is just not acceptable man.Originally Posted by dland24
That is not at ALL what I am saying.
Im saying that for a challenger to win a title, he has to clearly beat the champion. If there is any doubt that he won or lost, then he didnt do enough to justify taking the title from the champion. Thats how I feel about tonights fight. JMM didnt do enough to justify taking Manny's title. He put up a hell of a fight. But he didnt clearly win.
You can make just as good of a case that Manny won that you can for JMM. That alone, is enough for me to justify Manny retaining his title. Call it a draw at worst.
JMM won that fight clearly. It was not a draw, Pacquiao did not win, Marquez won it.
JMM won that title from Pacquiao, but was jobbed by the judges and probably Bob Arum.
So get off your high horse. Obviously JMM didnt "clearly" win.
makita
Banned
- Nov 2, 2011
- 383
- 10
Originally Posted by dland24
Originally Posted by MAKITA
That is just not acceptable man.Originally Posted by dland24
That is not at ALL what I am saying.
Im saying that for a challenger to win a title, he has to clearly beat the champion. If there is any doubt that he won or lost, then he didnt do enough to justify taking the title from the champion. Thats how I feel about tonights fight. JMM didnt do enough to justify taking Manny's title. He put up a hell of a fight. But he didnt clearly win.
You can make just as good of a case that Manny won that you can for JMM. That alone, is enough for me to justify Manny retaining his title. Call it a draw at worst.
JMM won that fight clearly. It was not a draw, Pacquiao did not win, Marquez won it.
JMM won that title from Pacquiao, but was jobbed by the judges and probably Bob Arum.OK dude. JMM CLEARLY won. Right. Because everyone agrees with that. If someone "clearly" wins, there isnt a debate going on. There is one going on. So if theres a debate, there is no "clear" result. JMM didnt clearly win. The judges didnt think he did. The guys on HBO didnt think he did. Some of the people I watched the fight with didnt think so. A lot of posters on NT didnt think he won.
So get off your high horse. Obviously JMM didnt "clearly" win.
And you're laughing at me?
You're probably a guy that uses compubox to back up your argument to right?
- Jul 4, 2007
- 1,537
- 10
I'm a Pac fan...I would have gave it 115-133 JMM...even with JMM coasting the last two rounds...could I see why someone would vote it the other way and go for Pac? Yea...Clearly this fight didn't solve anything in this trilogy...
I'm not a super big boxing fan either...but seeing that JMM is a counter puncher (and pretty effective one at that...) I don't see why PBF would have a field day with Pac since PBF is like JMM to the 10th power...
I'm not a super big boxing fan either...but seeing that JMM is a counter puncher (and pretty effective one at that...) I don't see why PBF would have a field day with Pac since PBF is like JMM to the 10th power...
makita
Banned
- Nov 2, 2011
- 383
- 10
SUPERJUDAH ZAB JUDAH 5x Champ!
Robbery!!!!
andreward Andre S.O.G. Ward
Marquez won this fight, period!!
usscunningham Steve Cunningham
All pro fighters I know ,guys which know what to look 4 in a fight had jmm winning. It's not just entertainment to us its a #lifestyle#
jeanpascalchamp Jean Pascal
On my card Marquez WON!!!!
TheMarvelous0ne Marvin Hagler
Disgusting result! #ROBBERY!
ChrisArreola Chris Arreola
Marquez won, true champ. Let's see Mayweather-Pacquiao. !%+@.
OscarDeLaHoya Oscar De La Hoya
I'm still sitting on my couch in disbelief.
THEREALBHOP BERNARD HOPKINS EX
@FloydMayweather blow thru @MannyPacquiao easy!!
Robbery!!!!
andreward Andre S.O.G. Ward
Marquez won this fight, period!!
usscunningham Steve Cunningham
All pro fighters I know ,guys which know what to look 4 in a fight had jmm winning. It's not just entertainment to us its a #lifestyle#
jeanpascalchamp Jean Pascal
On my card Marquez WON!!!!
TheMarvelous0ne Marvin Hagler
Disgusting result! #ROBBERY!
ChrisArreola Chris Arreola
Marquez won, true champ. Let's see Mayweather-Pacquiao. !%+@.
OscarDeLaHoya Oscar De La Hoya
I'm still sitting on my couch in disbelief.
THEREALBHOP BERNARD HOPKINS EX
@FloydMayweather blow thru @MannyPacquiao easy!!
- Jul 4, 2007
- 1,537
- 10
Well, I wonder had the stats and performance been reversed...would the outcome still be the same...?
- Nov 18, 2007
- 28,107
- 9,249
Originally Posted by MAKITA
Originally Posted by dland24
OK dude. JMM CLEARLY won. Right. Because everyone agrees with that. If someone "clearly" wins, there isnt a debate going on. There is one going on. So if theres a debate, there is no "clear" result. JMM didnt clearly win. The judges didnt think he did. The guys on HBO didnt think he did. Some of the people I watched the fight with didnt think so. A lot of posters on NT didnt think he won.
So get off your high horse. Obviously JMM didnt "clearly" win.
And you're laughing at me?
You're probably a guy that uses compubox to back up your argument to right?
Nice. Getting called out and resorting to insults rather than addressing them. Thumbs up.
- Sep 11, 2004
- 9,996
- 200
damn
manny is gonne need to consult with lebron/wade's trainer if he decides to fight mayweather
manny is gonne need to consult with lebron/wade's trainer if he decides to fight mayweather
- Sep 19, 2007
- 6,770
- 1,231
Yeah, but this does nothing but reaffirm the reasons Paquiao wouldn't want to fight. If the fight doesn't get done at this point I think the blame is easily going to be laid on Pac. He went into this thinking it was going to be easy and he is lucky to walk away with a W. Floyd would destroy him on counters if he went into the ring like he did tonight.
