Offical 2009-10 NBA Season Thread

[halfwaycrook]

Originally Posted by MeloVP

Originally Posted by HalfwayCROOK

And I just want the Thunder to keep everyone around so in a few years well see how well they've actually developed.

i hardly see any of their games, but i don't feel like jeff is developing anything there

my son is an after-afterthought on that squad

i could be wrong tho

He won't be totally what he could be somewhere else because there is still Durant and Russell there. But he can definitely develop into areally good 20 a game guy.

He already does a lot of other things for them.

 

[downtown43]

Arenas with 19pts and 14 dimes tonight. looks like he is trying to prove he is not just a shooter

 

[h3at23]

NT fav PG, Chris Quinn was traded to the NJ Nets along w/2012 2n rd in exchange & cash for a protected 2010 2nd rd pick (which they'll never see).

Rafer Alston agrees to a buyout w/NJ Nets and is expected to sign w/Miami on Thursday

 

[cicero avenue dopeman]

Originally Posted by DOWNTOWN43

Arenas with 19pts and 14 dimes tonight. looks like he is trying to prove he is not just a shooter

 

[halfwaycrook]

That won't last long

 

[nomadicsole21]

Zach Randolph awkward landing

, good to see big fella get up though, hes been playing like an All-Star lately.
27 Points and 14 Rebounds.

Been a tight game at the Rose Garden, hopefully Portland pulls out with the W.
These dudes been finding a way to lose it in the 4th.
GG Memphis.

 

[18key]

These refs are un-@$#%%*@-believable.

 

[bhzmafia14]

nope they didn't.

zbo hit the game ending fts. I bet that felt good. Great game though. Young team winning close games on the road.

 

[18key]

Good game refs, you guys really played your hearts out out there tonight.




But really, good game Memphis. Kept me entertained to the end, even if the ending stung from mistakes and poor shots (I'm looking at you, Webster). I justwish these NBA refs would learn what they're supposed to do out there.

 

[bhzmafia14]

I have never seen a Grizzlies team overcome so much adversity with this high a level of mental toughness. This team has a never die, never quit, keepingswinging attitude. I've never seen this kind of swagger in a Grizzlies game.

With the way Portland fans get into the game and try to make their arena a hostile environment, Memphis just kept fighting.

OJ with 27 tonight. He's on a killing spree the past 6 games.

Z-Bo just being Z-Bo.

Utah in a home/home is going to be tough, but we can at least pull one out.

 

[dmbrhs]

I hate the Blazers with a passion, but they got jobbed tonight. The Howard flagrant and Roy foul were inexcusable.

 

[janoy]

Hibbert

26, 8, 3 and 4 blocks. Against Howard too.

 

[al3xis]

Originally Posted by janoy

Hibbert

26, 8, 3 and 4 blocks. Against Howard too.

should be just good enough to get benched for solomon jones now.

roy in a half court set on offense is murder. O'Brien can't see it/won't change.

 

[westcoastsfinest]

hibbert on my fantasy team

i just wanna say that even though i hate the warriors...that was total BS...it was not a foul whatsoever...that shouldve been the warriors game...first offmags had full possesion of that ball and yet they called a jumpball...second monta didnt even touch jr smith...even then the refs shouldve let them playregardless if there was contact...you dont call anything at the end of the game unless the guy gets totally murked and shows that he was clearly fouled...its ashame how they even looked at the replay but yet they stick to the call

...its just wrong how they just basically gave the game to the nuggets

 

[CP1708]

That Denver call was a complete joke.

What the hell was that Vince?

Cuban running his mouth, AGAIN. Is there something in the water in Dallas with these douche bag owners? Serious, the owners in that city need to shut the@#$% up and stay out of sight.

Kings are friggin fighters. Tough loss, but damn good game they played again.

Rose looks better and better each game.

Didn't Indy lose to the Celts with half the team out, now they come back and beat the Magic??? The hell?

 

[proshares]

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[h3]Trade chatter a distraction?[/h3]
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[h5]Carlos Boozer | Jazz[/h5]
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There is a lot of chatter about what the Jazz might do as we get closer to the trade deadline in February, but Carlos Boozer says it's not a distraction for him.

"For some of the guys, maybe," Boozer told The Salt Lake Tribune. "Maybe they haven't been in that position before. I'm sure Kevin O'Connor is getting calls every day. I'm sure coach is feeling a little pressure [about] what to do. ... But that's [their] job. For us players, all we can do is the best we can."

The Jazz are over the tax threshold and a trade is likely. Boozer is playing well and is in the final season of his contract so there is a good chance he'll be dealt.

Yesterday, ESPN's Chad Ford outlined a trade scenario that could send Boozer to the Mavs.

[h5]Chad Ford[/h5]
Expiring deals of Dampier, Gooden could be helpful for Jazz

"I think the Mavs will be in this thing. Their window with Dirk and company is small. They're playing well and they have two huge assets, Erick Dampier's contract that isn't guaranteed next year and Drew Gooden's contract that isn't guaranteed for the rest of the season. I could see a team like the Jazz, who are desperately trying to cut payroll, make a Carlos Boozer like swap for that type of relief."

http:// [h3]Harris not concerned?[/h3]
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[h5]Mike Harris | Rockets[/h5]
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The Rockets face a decision today about forward Mike Harris, who has a non-guaranteed contract. Harris says he's not concerned about what might happen.

"It's out of my mind," Harris told the Houston Chronicle. "I can't control it. The majority of time I don't think about it. It's a business decision. I've been in this situation a lot. Now I'm at the point where I'm mature enough and ready to deal with it. It's a stepping stone sometimes that you have to work harder."

http:// [h3]Randolph to be waived?[/h3]
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[h5]Shavlik Randolph | Trail Blazers[/h5]
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The Portland Trail Blazers signed Shavlik Randolph last week to a non-guaranteed contract. The Columbian reports Randolph is expected to be waived Wednesday so his salary won't be guaranteed.

Randolph could sign two 10-day contracts with the Blazers once he clears waivers.

http:// [h3]Griffin's close, but he won't rush back[/h3]
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[h5]Blake Griffin | Clippers[/h5]
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Blake Griffin has missed his entire rookie season so far due to a knee injury. He should play later this month, but he won't come back until he's confident the knee is completely healthy.

"For me it's a matter right now of having to harness myself a little bit and not go too crazy," Griffin told the Los Angeles Daily News. "I can't do too much, only what I'm allowed to. So I do exactly what the doctors tell me I can, and nothing more. It's important to take my time and not rush it. I don't want to have anymore setbacks."

"Sitting on the bench and watching is a very, very difficult thing to do," Griffin said. "It just makes me realize how fortunate I am to play when I am healthy."

http:// [h3]Will player-only meeting help?[/h3]
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[h5]Atlanta Hawks[/h5]
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The Atlanta Hawks are going though a rough patch, and the players decided they needed to have a meeting Tuesday.

"It was just guys talking about what we need to do," forward Marvin Williams told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. "It was all positive, all positive things."

"It's just a lack of effort," said center Al Horford. "People have to make the extra rotation, the extra offense. It has something to do with offense. If guys are not making shots, they tend to get a little discouraged. We still have to defend and rebound to give ourselves a chance to be in the game."

[h5]John Hollinger[/h5]
Hawks' lack of offensive rebounding is hurting squad

"The common thread? Atlanta's once-vaunted offense has hit a wall. Although the Hawks still rank second in the league in offensive efficiency (109.3), they haven't been playing up to their usual level in the past eight games, with an efficiency mark of 105.8 -- and only 101.9 if you subtract the two doormats (Minnesota and Indiana) ... Look a little deeper, and there's a surprising reason. The Hawks' offense has benefited from an odd approach, as I mentioned a few weeks ago -- they don't shoot a particularly highly percentage, but they're so good at rebounding and avoiding turnovers that they generate far more shot attempts per possession than most teams. Lately, however, one of those planks has disintegrated: The Hawks stopped getting offensive rebounds. Atlanta's offensive rebound rate in the past eight games is a measly 17.7 percent, barely half what they were averaging until that point."

http:// [h3]Hunter waived, roster move coming[/h3]
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[h5]Othello Hunter | Hawks[/h5]
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The Hawks waived forward Othello Hunter on Tuesday. They now have 12 players on the roster and have two weeks to bring it back to the mandatory 13-player roster minimum.

"Basically, it just gives us some options for the roster," general manager Rick Sund told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. "We've got a two-week grace period in which we can have a 12-man roster before we have to get to a 13-man roster. It allows us to be able to look at the waiver wires a little bit right now."

http:// [h3]Alston in, Arroyo out?[/h3]
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[h5]Carlos Arroyo | Heat[/h5]
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Rafer Alston confirmed yesterday he will sign with the Miami Heat after he clears waivers on Thursday.

"I'm coming," Alston told the South Florida Sun-Sentinel Tuesday night. "I can't explain in words how excited I am. I'm really excited."

He'll only sign for the pro-rated veteran minimum, but that may force the Heat to waive Carlos Arroyo as they try to get under the luxury-tax threshold. Arroyo's salary for this season will be guaranteed if he's not waived today.

"I know I was given a unique opportunity and wanted to take full advantage of it, do my best and everything would fall into place," Arroyo said of agreeing to a non-guaranteed contract despite his veteran experience. "I knew I'd have to bust my butt for everything."

http:// [h3]Jazz add Gaines[/h3]
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[h5]Utah Jazz[/h5]
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The Utah Jazz got up to 13 players yesterday when they signed Sundiata Gaines of the Idaho Stampede to a 10-day contract.

The Deseret News reports Dontell Jefferson or Kevin Kruger could be signed, if Gaines doesn't work out with the Jazz.

http:// [h3]Magic won't trade Gortat?[/h3]
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[h5]Marcin Gortat | Magic[/h5]
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Marcin Gortat would welcome a trade if it meant he would get more playing time, but ESPN.com's Marc Stein reports the Magic will likely hang on to their backup center for the rest of this season.

If Gortat is traded it will most likely happen during the summer.

http:// [h3]Exception will go unused?[/h3]
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[h5]Denver Nuggets[/h5]
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The Denver Nuggets have a $3.2 million trade exception that expires on Thursday and ESPN.com's Marc Stein reports it will probably go unused.

The Nuggets are above the luxury tax threshold and don't want to increase their payroll, which is the reason they will let the exception expire.

http:// [h3]Butler most likely to be traded?[/h3]
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[h5]Caron Butler | Wizards[/h5]
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ESPN.com's Marc Stein reports most people around the NBA feel Caron Butler is the most likely player to be traded by the Washington Wizards.

There have been rumors about deals that could land Butler in Chicago and Miami.

http:// [h3]Lakers will be careful with Gasol[/h3]
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[h5]Pau Gasol | Lakers[/h5]
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Pau Gasol's strain in his left hamstring is a Grade 1 instead of a Grade 2 strain in his right hamstring that sidelined him for the first 11 games of the season. Lakers head coach Phil Jackson says the team is concerned.

"There actually is an insignificant amount of tear," Jackson told the Los Angeles Times. "But it's something we want to prevent from being anything greater and so does he. We're hoping this is, like, game to game."

So when will Gasol return?

"He'll have to be confident of where he's at," Jackson said. "He'll have to be fully assured that he's all right."

http:// [h3]Arenas fears David Stern?[/h3]
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[h5]Gilbert Arenas | Wizards[/h5]
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Gilbert Arenas was asked last night what he feared more, law enforcement or David Stern and Arenas said the NBA Commissioner.

"Stern is mean," Arenas told The Washington Post. "I think he may make his decision before [the legal process plays out]. Most likely he's getting a lot of pressure, because of all the stories going around, to act. . . . I've looked at some of the charges brought against other people and they were [suspended] three to five games."

Arenas also said it is easy for him to stay calm during this time. "If I really did something wrong, I would feel remorse in what I did, but I didn't do anything," he said. "You can slander me, or whatever, it doesn't matter. I'm still alive. I'm playing basketball.

"I'll take all the hits right now. The truth is there; there is no point in getting angry and mad," Arenas said. "At the end of the day, all that I want is a sorry. It can be small print. Maybe just one person do it, for slandering me. Because you guys have no idea."

http:// [h3]No need to talk?[/h3]
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[h5]Mike D'Antoni | Knicks[/h5]
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Larry Hughes let it be known a few days ago that he was unhappy with Mike D'Antoni because of the lack of communication from the Knicks head coach.

On Tuesday, D'Antoni said doesn't think he needs to talk with Hughes about his role and he's not mad about the comments.

"I'm sure he's frustrated and vented, and you guys don't leave him alone, so I'm sure it was a little prod here and there," D'Antoni told the New York Post. "But I can understand his frustration and sympathize with him. But that doesn't change how we have to try to go about things or try to win."

Told that Hughes would have liked some dialogue, D'Antoni replied, "I don't know what dialogue to give him. But we don't need to go back and forth. He's fine and he'll be ready when we're ready to go."

http:// [h3]Magic denied?[/h3]
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[h5]New York Knicks[/h5]
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The New York Daily News reports Magic Johnson was denied a ticket to a Knicks game last month. According to the newspaper, the team is unhappy with what Johnson wrote about Isiah Thomas in his and Larry Bird's book, "When the Game Was Ours."
Johnson wrote that he was partly responsible for keeping Thomas off the 1992 Olympic Dream Team.

http:// [h3]Moves unlikely for Bobcats?[/h3]
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[h5]Charlotte Bobcats[/h5]
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The Charlotte Bobcats could use some help in the frontcourt, but head coach Larry Brown doesn't think the team will sign a player.

"I've thought all along we've needed somebody to back up Boris Diaw. I don't think because the guarantee date is coming up that it will make any difference at all," Brown told The Charlotte Observer. "There are a lot of guys out there you could have brought in anyway without a guarantee."

Brown also doesn't see the team making a trade right now.

"I think we'd want to improve our team," Brown said, "but I don't want to see anybody leave that we have."

http:// [h3]Morrow campaign coming[/h3]
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[h5]Anthony Morrow | Warriors[/h5]
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Anthony Morrow is one of the best three-point shooters in the league and a campaign will be launched soon by the Warriors in hopes he will be invited to All-Star Weekend.

The San Francisco Chronicle reports the Warriors are going to post a video online that shows Morrow making 23 of 25 three-point tries, using ball racks to re-create the same format used in the three-point competition.

"I just want to be able to be in the competition, not only for myself, but for the Warriors' organization," Morrow said. "It's important to me. It's on the back of my mind all of the time. If I get invited, great. If I don't, I'll try to do like I did last year and lead the league in three-point percentage."

http:// [h3]Calderon won't rock the boat?[/h3]
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[h5]Jose Calderon | Raptors[/h5]
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Jose Calderon has missed 12 out of the last 13 games with a sore hip and the Raptors are 8-5 with Jarrett Jack as the starting point guard. Calderon will not start when he plays tonight and that's okay with him.

"It's Jay's (Jay Triano) call. I'm ready to help the team, and keep winning games," Calderon told the Toronto Star. "If I've got to be coming from the bench the first two, three, four, five games, or whatever, it's Jay's call. He's the coach."

"I'm sure we'll make it work, however it's going to," said Jack. "We'll be able to make it work. I'm not worried about it. I'm not worried about it at all."

http:// [h3]Pierce back tonight?[/h3]
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[h5]Paul Pierce | Celtics[/h5]
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Paul Pierce will play against the Heat tonight after missing the last five games while recovering from an infection in his left knee.

"I got a good practice in today, felt pretty good. Probably not 100 percent, but it's getting better," Pierce told the Boston Herald. "I got a chance to run last couple of days on the treadmill. I shot every day, rode the bike every day, so I'm as confident as I'm going to be. It's just a matter of the swelling going down. I have a lot more flexibility than I have in the last few days. I saw some flashes today."

http:// [h3]Cuban ticked at NFL[/h3]
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[h5]Dallas Mavericks[/h5]
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Mavs owner Mark Cuban is upset with the NFL because the Dallas Cowboys playoff game Saturday against Philadelphia was scheduled at the same time the Mavs are going to be hosting the Utah Jazz.

"I know we're just little pissants compared to the NFL, but seriously, the NFL is turning into the ugly American when it comes to sports leagues," Cuban told ESPNDallas.com. "They don't give a crap about anybody but themselves."

http:// [h3]Trade killed Pistons' chemistry?[/h3]
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[h5]Antonio McDyess | Spurs[/h5]
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Antonio McDyess and Chauncey Billups were traded to the Denver Nuggets for Allen Iverson on Nov. 4, 2008. McDyess says that trade killed the chemistry on the team and that's why he didn't want to re-sign with them last summer.

"I really didn't understand the logic of that trade," McDyess told the San Antonio Express-News. "I guess they were in a rebuilding stage, and it's showing now."

"I'm not sad for the Pistons, but for some of the guys I played with on that team, it's sad to see them go through this. I know how hard they play and how bad they want to win on the court."

Asked if he would still be in Detroit if Billups were still there, McDyess said, "I think I would."

http:// [h3]When will Finley play?[/h3]
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[h5]Michael Finley | Spurs[/h5]
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Michael Finley has missed the last 13 games since he suffered a Grade 2 sprain of the left ankle on Dec. 5. He has begun some light shooting drills and remains a week or two from a return to action, a team spokesperson told the San Antonio Express-News on Tuesday.

http:// [h3]Iverson guaranteed[/h3]
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[h5]Allen Iverson | 76ers[/h5]
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The http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=phiPhiladelphia 76ers guaranteed Allen Iverson's contract for this season yesterday. They had until today to make that decision.

76ers head coach Eddie Jordan told The Philadelphia Inquirer he was not surprised that the organization kept Iverson. "He's a guy that's added a lot to us, leadership, and things on the floor he does for us. He's a valuable part of what we're doing since he's signed."

"Since his arrival, Allen has done everything asked of him and has been an excellent teammate," said general manager Ed Stefanski.

http:// [h3]Granger's return getting closer?[/h3]
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[h5]Danny Granger | Pacers[/h5]
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Danny Granger's torn right plantar fascia will keep him sidelined at least two more weeks.

"I think Danny, he went up and down a little bit today. I still think he's two, 2 1/2 weeks away," Pacers head coach Jim O'Brien told The Indianapolis Star. "I haven't been told an exact time, but that's my understanding."

 

[westcoastsfinest]

boozer to the mavs?

...this will make the mavs a total contender if theyget him...but for who?
butler would be a good pick up wherever he goes...but why trade him when gil is going to jail?

why would the knicks do that to magic?...as if isiah was a good thing for them

cuban should shut the f up...dallas is cowboys country...its a playoff game vs. a regular season game fool

 

[CP1708]

I think Booz on the Mavs would be ok against most of the NBA, but they would get murdered by LA. Bynum, Gasol and Odom against Booz and Dirk? Come on.

LA is the team that Damp would def be needed against.

Like I said though, against most other teams, the Mavs would kill em with Booz in there. But he's not big enough to matchup with Bynum or Gasol.

So if you're Dallas, and you have that Damp trade chip, you gonna move that chip for a guy that won't even win you your own conference?

To me, Damp's contract has to be moved for a franchise type player, not a 2nd option type guy.

So, I'm all for this move.

 

[bhzmafia14]

I just noticed Iverson's statline from last night.

He had more turnovers than assists and even points.

4pts (2-6 fg), 7to's and 5asts. I guess he didn't really want to shoot too much last night.

 

[proshares]

I remember in the offseason, there was some kind of scenario where Damp/Gooden's contracts would come off the books and help them land LeBron

So yea, please make this move.

 

[franchise3]

23 of 25 in a 3PT simulation for Morrow? Invite the dude already.

 

[marionthebarberian]

heres another scenario not involving Damp.

We originally proposed the Mavs offer Gooden-Humphries-Williams for Boozer. Now we are seeing two of those names in trade rumors (Humphries-Williams) along with the concept of Utah getting savings this week (which sounds like "We might trade for Gooden" to me).

So how about this trade sequence (and our imagined negotiations between the involved clubs):

The Mavs responded to our previous article* and called Utah to offer the savings they want: "Give us Boozer,'' the Mavs say, "and you get Gooden-Humphries-Williams and the savings you covet.''

(*I'm kidding. The humbling reality that when there's a "right" answer to a puzzle, more than one student in the class can figure it out. We'll bet Mavs management is the smartest student in the class, and is brainstorming way ahead of us.)

Utah says, "That's close. But we really prefer to get rid of all of Boozer's contract, and this still leaves us with about half of it. Can't you get it closer to zero than that?''

Dallas calls the Nets, who say: "Hey, we'll take Humphries-Williams and all you have to take is Najera, if we can free up a roster spot.''

Dallas goes back to Utah, which says: "Sounds good. We'll give you Boozer, you give us Gooden whom we'll waive, and Najera who's only $3M, and we'll virtually erase that entire Boozer contract off our payroll. Can you pay the remaining $2M of Najera's salary this season for us so we can walk away from Boozer for nothing?''

NJ goes back to Dallas and says, "Hey, we love the deal and we're good to go, except we just can't find an empty roster spot anywhere. How about sending us a couple mil in cash to pay off one of the scrubs we have on our roster and clear a roster space?''

Is that where we are right now, two teams playing hardball for some extra cash and Dallas contemplating how far they'll go for the addition of Boozer to bolster their scoring power?

Given that scenario (which, as imagined as it may be, all fits together neatly, doesn't it?) … here's a giant thumbs-up. For whatever flaws he has, replacing Gooden's minutes with Boozer and the scoring potential he provides is the exact type of deal we've been wishing for to move this team up another rung.

 

[bhzmafia14]

Lawson the last 3 games

23 and 9
23 and 8
21 and 8

It looks like Denver may have found their PG for the future. Nuggets got a TO on Chauncey in the year 11/12. Think they will end up exercising that 14.2mil tohave one last season with their vet PG or move on to Lawson?

 

[CP1708]

Originally Posted by marionthebarberian

heres another scenario not involving Damp.

We originally proposed the Mavs offer Gooden-Humphries-Williams for Boozer. Now we are seeing two of those names in trade rumors (Humphries-Williams) along with the concept of Utah getting savings this week (which sounds like "We might trade for Gooden" to me).

So how about this trade sequence (and our imagined negotiations between the involved clubs):

The Mavs responded to our previous article* and called Utah to offer the savings they want: "Give us Boozer,'' the Mavs say, "and you get Gooden-Humphries-Williams and the savings you covet.''

(*I'm kidding. The humbling reality that when there's a "right" answer to a puzzle, more than one student in the class can figure it out. We'll bet Mavs management is the smartest student in the class, and is brainstorming way ahead of us.)

Utah says, "That's close. But we really prefer to get rid of all of Boozer's contract, and this still leaves us with about half of it. Can't you get it closer to zero than that?''

Dallas calls the Nets, who say: "Hey, we'll take Humphries-Williams and all you have to take is Najera, if we can free up a roster spot.''

Dallas goes back to Utah, which says: "Sounds good. We'll give you Boozer, you give us Gooden whom we'll waive, and Najera who's only $3M, and we'll virtually erase that entire Boozer contract off our payroll. Can you pay the remaining $2M of Najera's salary this season for us so we can walk away from Boozer for nothing?''

NJ goes back to Dallas and says, "Hey, we love the deal and we're good to go, except we just can't find an empty roster spot anywhere. How about sending us a couple mil in cash to pay off one of the scrubs we have on our roster and clear a roster space?''

Is that where we are right now, two teams playing hardball for some extra cash and Dallas contemplating how far they'll go for the addition of Boozer to bolster their scoring power?

Given that scenario (which, as imagined as it may be, all fits together neatly, doesn't it?) … here's a giant thumbs-up. For whatever flaws he has, replacing Gooden's minutes with Boozer and the scoring potential he provides is the exact type of deal we've been wishing for to move this team up another rung.

Now if they pulled this off, then I would take Dallas more seriously for sure.

 

[i nasmatic i]

Gilbert during pre game