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I liked him as a rookie. His heart, even though his stats didn't show much.
Offical 2009-10 NBA Season Thread
- Thread in 'Sports & Training' Thread starter Started by mateen cleaves,
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dont mix us all in with them 2.
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Brew robbed.
Not really, but dude made some significant steps this season.
Not really, but dude made some significant steps this season.
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Always look for the invisible print
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Ya right
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You're dead @$* wrong.
He's not better than Marc Gasol, Kaman, Bogut, or Brook Lopez. And at best he's a coin-flip with Horford IMO but I can at least see the argument for that one.
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* KAMAN WAS NAMED TWICE FOR A REASON & these other bums dont get the double treatment because they didnt make the asg playing like brittney garner from butler.......
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Brooks making strides
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I'm not going to debate Noah being better than Kaman or Bogut because that is just asinine, he's not better than Horford either but I'll do a quick breakdown of the two for since some people feel it's a toss-up.
Al Horford
2009-10 StatisticsFG3PTFT Rebounds
GMINFGM-AFG%3PM-A3P%FTM-AFT%OFFDEFTOTSTLBLKTOPFASTPTS
Season8135.1467-847.5511-11.000213-270.7892.97.09.9.731.121.512.782.314.2
Joakim Noah
2009-10 StatisticsFG3PTFT Rebounds
GMINFGM-AFG%3PM-A3P%FTM-AFT%OFFDEFTOTSTLBLKTOPFASTPTS
Season6430.1262-520.5040-0.000163-219.7443.47.611.0.501.561.833.092.110.7
The numbers are close, the only significant difference between the two would be in the scoring department. Horford's offensive game is vastly more refined & his numbers would be jump playing for a team like the Bulls, who are on the lower echelon of scoring & fg%. Noah is a good guy to have on your team, but isn't gong to develop much more than the scrappy hustle guy he is today. I'm sure any G.M. other than Paxon (who loves offensively lacking big men for some reason) would take Horford over Noah in a heartbeat.
Al Horford
2009-10 StatisticsFG3PTFT Rebounds
GMINFGM-AFG%3PM-A3P%FTM-AFT%OFFDEFTOTSTLBLKTOPFASTPTS
Season8135.1467-847.5511-11.000213-270.7892.97.09.9.731.121.512.782.314.2
Joakim Noah
2009-10 StatisticsFG3PTFT Rebounds
GMINFGM-AFG%3PM-A3P%FTM-AFT%OFFDEFTOTSTLBLKTOPFASTPTS
Season6430.1262-520.5040-0.000163-219.7443.47.611.0.501.561.833.092.110.7
The numbers are close, the only significant difference between the two would be in the scoring department. Horford's offensive game is vastly more refined & his numbers would be jump playing for a team like the Bulls, who are on the lower echelon of scoring & fg%. Noah is a good guy to have on your team, but isn't gong to develop much more than the scrappy hustle guy he is today. I'm sure any G.M. other than Paxon (who loves offensively lacking big men for some reason) would take Horford over Noah in a heartbeat.
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Just like to say that Noah's stats are ruined by a stretch of about 12 games where he was limited to like 15 minutes or was completely injured with no business out on the court. But he still shows very well against Horford in a per minute basis. Noah's one of the best rebounders in the league and Horford is not(8th, 38th). Noah/Horford is a good debate.
And I don't know why anyone went off on the Noah vs. Bogut tangent. Bogut pretty much cemented himself as number 3 before that injury.
With Kaman(and Lopez): you would think a center with good guards around him would have a positive effect on his team's record. He's a fantasy basketball owner's dream, but it doesn't translate to actual wins.
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Al Hordford is the best post defender in the NBA, he is so much better than Noah it's not even funny. This Synergy sports thing is awesome. BTW This is not a stat, there are no fancy formulas it's this is just a log of plays who get's stops and who doesn't.
Best post up defenders in the NBA. (Only Centers)
PPP = Points Per Possession Allowed
FG% = Field Goal % Allowed
%SF = Shooting Foul %
%TO = % of turnovers created
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Best post up defenders in the NBA. (Only Centers)
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FG% = Field Goal % Allowed
%SF = Shooting Foul %
%TO = % of turnovers created
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Kaman and Lopez are not the reason their teams suck.
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I love the new Synergy fan site, Osh. Who would've thought that Anthony Tolliver is the best isolation player in basketball with a minimum of 50 possessions?
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Here we go with $%%!!%% stats again and not watching the game
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People see the game better, but the stats see ALL of the games.
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Funny if someone uses stats they automatically don't watch games LOL
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How did you get to that screen. I am logged in right now...........Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh
Al Hordford is the best post defender in the NBA, he is so much better than Noah it's not even funny. This Synergy sports thing is awesome. BTW This is not a stat, there are no fancy formulas it's this is just a log of plays who get's stops and who doesn't.
Best post up defenders in the NBA. (Only Centers)
PPP = Points Per Possession Allowed
FG% = Field Goal % Allowed
%SF = Shooting Foul %
%TO = % of turnovers created
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i was talking about OKB, its a proven fact all he does is stat watch
shaq fat %$* is done, looks so slow out there
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But Noah>>Kaman...Is Kaman better offensivley, and able to have an offensive run through him? Without a doubt...But he isn't as good as a complementary piece and his ceiling as a go to guy isn't that high. Noah, knows his role and there aren't many better at it. How many big guys get up and down the floor as well as him...In an age when the NBA is getting back to transition basketball and you have a point guard who can literally get up and down the court in a second, Noah is an ideal big. I would take him on my team over Kaman, 10 times out of 10.
Not surprised a lot of the Noah hate is coming from the same people who used to detest those Florida squads.
But Noah>>Kaman...Is Kaman better offensivley, and able to have an offensive run through him? Without a doubt...But he isn't as good as a complementary piece and his ceiling as a go to guy isn't that high. Noah, knows his role and there aren't many better at it. How many big guys get up and down the floor as well as him...In an age when the NBA is getting back to transition basketball and you have a point guard who can literally get up and down the court in a second, Noah is an ideal big. I would take him on my team over Kaman, 10 times out of 10.
Not surprised a lot of the Noah hate is coming from the same people who used to detest those Florida squads.
