Offical 2009-10 NBA Season Thread

[dlo13]

All kinds of foolishness in here today.

 

[stylishstef89]

Horford > Noah
Bogut > Noah
Kaman > Noah

 

[bittersweet]

Years Pro: 2

3rd year. Doesn't matter ... I count it like that.

And NoWitness : you said what would Serge have to do, and I said put up the #'s that Noah did in last year's Playoffs.

That's where everyone started paying attention to him/confidence.

 

[banks2pierce]

Originally Posted by Al3xis

Noah, a project? Hardly.


Howard
Duncan
Bogut
Camby
Kaman
Lopez
Gasol
Horford

c'mon...

Your list falls apart after 3 or 4. Camby scores 7 ppg. Horford is the 4/5 battle with Noah, but will most likely get exposed by Dwight next series.

Kaman, Gasol, and Lopez all have teams with poor defensive ratings...and they're centers. Joakim also smokes this trio in rebounding.

He turned it up a notch in the past month or so.  Consider how he has played lately. April splits: 13.8, 13.4 rebounds, and 2.13 blocks on 56% shooting. He has arrived.

And i hate doing this. He's an #+!@%%%.

 

[bigmike23]

Originally Posted by Dade B0Y

Joakin Noah is the new Courtney Lee.  It's official.

HUH?

 

[N41D]

Joakim ain't Courtney Lee... Noah can actually play. Pretty damn well, in fact... But he's not one of the five best centers in basketball. He's not some monster difference-maker that OKC should regret passing over for Jeff Green.

 

[JD617]

Maybe I need to watch more Clippers games...you guys think Kaman is definitely better?

There's no question Kaman is a much better scorer, but Joakim is a better rebounder, passer, and defender, at least from what I've seen. I know the Bulls would never run a play for Joakim, and Kaman can get on the block and score, so I guess that cancels out Joakim's advantages. I dunno, I didn't think it was that much of a reach but I could be wrong. *shrugs*

In no way am I saying Noah is a top 5 center though.

 

[bhzmafia14]

Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk

Joakim ain't Courtney Lee... Noah can actually play. Pretty damn well, in fact... But he's not one of the five best centers in basketball. He's not some monster difference-maker that OKC should regret passing over for Jeff Green.

But, he does the intangible things throughout the game that Green does along with giving you double digit rebounding, more length in the paint, and toughness.

 

[bigmike23]

his list is just fine expect for horford and maybe even camby. camby doesnt use his offense game anymore and plays the same role as noah.

 

[bangdak]

I had to make sure today was the 21st, and not the 20th.






you guys are getting ridiculous over here.

 

[kiddin like jason]

Haralabos Voulgaris is the former skycap with the analytical mind thathe once used to beat sportsbooks. Now he is trying to get a job in theNBA, has stopped betting on basketball, and is using the database forthings like trying to beat my mom in the TrueHoop Stat Geek Smackdown.

Voulgaris recently started a blog called Alone in the Corner, where he uses his database to name the NBA's worst defenders.

Making the list are:

• Jonny Flynn
• Kevin Martin
• Andres Nocioni
• Charlie Villanueva
• Andrea Bargnani

Honorable mentions are: J.J. Barea, Jeff Green, Yi Jianlian, DrewGooden, Al Jefferson, Will Bynum, Jordan Farmar, Derek Fisher and DavidWest.

How did he come up with this? A few years ago, Voulgaris discussed aspects of his database on TrueHoop:

In the basketball analytic world (stat geeks), peopletalk of Offensive and Defensive Efficiency (points per possession). Itake it a step further and break down the efficiency of different typesof possessions. Possessions off of turnovers, made baskets, missedshots (broken down a step further types of missed shots), etc.

As I mentioned, once you have the data you can begin to do all sorts of cool things with it.

The NBA has an interesting application on their site called "HotZones" that shows you how a player shoots from a certain spot on thefloor. I can give you the same information but I can break it down withmuch more detail.

Take Kobe Bryant for example. We have every shot he (and every other player in the league) has taken in the last five seasons.

How does Kobe Bryant's shooting chart look when Bruce Bowen is onthe floor (guarding him)? How does it look with Shane Battier? (I know,small sample size, but you get the idea).

How does it look with X lineup for the Lakers, or how does it look with just Gasol on the floor, and on and on.

 

[T0INE]

These last few pages have been comedy.

Kneesh.

I could see the argument of Noah neing better than Horford but not Bogut and Kaman.

 

[billy hoyle]

Noah doesnt even know how to shoot....

 

[three6mafia2007]

did someone really just say that noah was better than Bogut?

he's prob not better than Kaman either

 

[goldenarmz97]

Originally Posted by bittersweet

Noah > Horford
Noah > Kaman
Noah > Bogut

Some of you guys' don't watch Bulls games, so you wouldn't understand the DIFFERENCE Noah makes. He's AVERAGING a double-double.

Without him, we went on a 10-game losing streak.

Candidate for dumbest post of the year...

 

[bigmike23]

DP
    

 

[bigmike23]

Originally Posted by toine2983

These last few pages have been comedy.

Kneesh.

 

wait that was her? that explains EVERYTHING now
  

 

[CP1708]

And here I was worried that I would be missing something being on vaca this week. 

 

[bittersweet]

Originally Posted by JD617


There's no question Kaman is a much better scorer, but Joakim is a better rebounder, passer, and defender, at least from what I've seen. I know the Bulls would never run a play for Joakim, and Kaman can get on the block and score, so I guess that cancels out Joakim's advantages. I dunno, I didn't think it was that much of a reach but I could be wrong. *shrugs*

This.

 

[bittersweet]

Originally Posted by Bigmike23

Originally Posted by toine2983

These last few pages have been comedy.

Kneesh.

 

wait that was her? that explains EVERYTHING now
  

%!%%% please. You didn't even disagree.

You're such a clown.

 

[windycity7]

Originally Posted by Dade B0Y

Joakin Noah is the new Courtney Lee.  It's official.

YOUR NUTS ITS OFFICIAL...NOAH IS TOP 10 AS FAR AS CENTERS & HES DEF BETTER THAN KAMAN,BOGUT,Camby,Kaman,Lopez,MARC Gsol,Horford* KAMAN WAS NAMED TWICE FOR A REASON.......

 

[windycity7]

Originally Posted by goldenarmz97

Originally Posted by bittersweet

Noah > Horford
Noah > Kaman
Noah > Bogut

Some of you guys' don't watch Bulls games, so you wouldn't understand the DIFFERENCE Noah makes. He's AVERAGING a double-double.

Without him, we went on a 10-game losing streak.

Candidate for dumbest post of the year...

YES I NOMINATE YOU goldenarmz97....... & I GOTTA SAY YOUR GONNA WIN SINCE YOU UP AGAINST YOURSELF.......

 

[JD617]

Oh God...

 

[bangdak]

This guys serious too.




I honestly dont even see how Noah's even better then Horford.

 

[im not you]

Bulls fans really like Noah now huh? Ya'll #+%%$$% on him for his first two years.