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Oh boy, here we go. Where you get your facts amaze me, but I know for a fact Duke has no where near the boosters that the big football schools have. Alleva made sure of that. Not to mention I was with the basketball and football players day in and day out and NEVER seen or heard of these dudes receiving "benefits", especially dudes like JJ and Shelden.
, your jumping in like I stated facts and figures. Inever said how big the Duke booster base is, just that they do have a booster base. Which you confirmed. Of course on the football team no one ever receivedbenefits, they have been a doormat since the program started. Sure, some dudes play it straight and follow the rules, but there are always those that take themoney and gifts and I don't blame them. They deserve whatever benefits they get.
he is 20 years old. I think he probably got left back or something. School problems?
It happens often with basketball "prodigies".
Amare Stoudemire was 20 year old rookie, fresh out of high school. So he would have been a 20 year old freshman if the "One and Done" rule was ineffect.
Originally Posted by nycknicks105
he is 20 years old. I think he probably got left back or something. School problems?
Originally Posted by OGJumpman
Sorry to break it to you guys but O.J did it. I know many people that go to USC and a couple of people that have talked to O.J in person
and they say he got a new flat screen T.V in his dorm room and is also pushing a fresh new car. So yea im pretty sure this is all true.
Originally Posted by PharelFor3
That dude was snitchin mad hard. Let the kid live. This is why I hope they allow some sort of payments for college athletes. A couple of hundred dollars go a long way.
Originally Posted by mofogoat
Whether or not ESPN is putting SC "on blast" is irrelevant. It isn't like ESPN is making up this story with no proof to back it up. If they're clean, they're clean. If not, then they deserve whatever's coming to them...sorry.
my dude plays at a small time d1 program and he still gets money, this aint nothing new. i donno it aint a problem in my eyes
and im suprised its only 30k
USC's basketball program is not at the elite level (Duke, UNC, Kentucky, UCLA), but it in no way is it "small time".
Why? Is that 2-3 enrollment going to encourage them to obtain a degree when they have been groomed since the 8-9th grade to become a Pro bycoaches, teachers, "advisors"???Originally Posted by nycknicks105
Like i said, the NBA need to have some sort 2-3 year rule to stop this from happening.
Fixed!Originally Posted by ooIRON MANoo
This $$@* goes on EVERYWHERE if you have a supreme talent...Esp if you got mean @%% boosters...Like Bama Florida State, Kentucky Duke, etc....
ummmmmmmm for the record who is hating on mayo IN THIS THREAD?
I like how dreClark tip toed around Duke and FSU,, yet puts Kentucky on blast.
duke has no where near the amount of boosters that the other schools have. FSU is another story
I know my teams are dirty. I always say that *%#%. NO program is clean...
^ he meant his friend plays at a small time school and EVEN HE gets side money...so he's not surprised that someone like OJ would be.
Just saw the segment on SportsCenter and it's pretty obvious that a few things went down between OJ and Guillory.
I just don't see how any of this is prevented in the future when kids are going to school for one year no matter what. If he doesn't take money/gifts...he coasts through 6 credits or whatever the minimum is...doesn't even go to Spring classes...and then declares. If he takes the gifts/money and is caught...USC forfeits some games but there's no jail/fine/penalty otherwise. OJ goes pro, gets his $10+ Million guaranteed, BDA Sports has their client and makes their cut, and Guillory is onto being a runner for the next big thing. Why would Tim Floyd say anything about knowing of the situation? Nobody funneling money to OJ is affiliated w/ the school and they already did their own "investigation." Pleading ignorance works just fine, he gets his HUGE salary and builds a program, recruits Derozan and continues to see the money pile up for years to come.
I'm just waiting for the 15 year-old phenom that'll say "#+%* it" and not even be eligible for HS games, take boatloads of money, play just AAU ball, or even better yet, play as a Pro in Europe, make money early and often and then enter the draft.
These kids are barely earning a HS diploma as is and the freshman year at college is nothing but a joke...major changes need to be made if any anyone is really concerned about changing anything.
I'm down for either the player entering the draft out of HS, cause I DO THINK that should be an option, or 2 years in college should be required because w/ just one year there's FAR too many loopholes for things like this to go down.
OJ's story would make a great movie one day...this has pretty much been a textbook HS star case the whole way.
Some kids are doing this already, to a certain extent. Not necessarily making themselves ineligible, but simply not playing HS basketball and justplaying the AAU circuit. Good post though and it will be interesting should some +$** like that go down.
I'm shocked how little critique is directed towards THE AGENTS here. Folks, OJ Mayo is a patsy. He just plays basketball. He's not a mover. He's not a shaker. He directs so little capital in this game that he is the M F'n patsy. He still shares blame. Mayo knows the rules. He just doesn't give two #+#! about them. Why should he care about those rules? He just wants money.
The real problem here is the parlor game the agencies play to circumnavigate the NCAA, NBA, and NBPA rules. The agencies are in the business of taking high level basketball talent and turning them into capital growth hedge funds. This is the OJ Mayo hedge fund directed by Bill Duffy and Associates. Guillory is a runner/money changer. Calvin Andrews is the point agent/account manager. Carmelo Anthony is the face of the Carmelo Anthony Hedge Fund, already a wild capital growth success story. His role is to recruit new talent to BDA so they can get their own hedge fund.
These agencies can talk to rising basketball talent whenever they want. No rules will stop them. If you try and stop them they are smarter than you. Profit, like life, will always find a way.
The NCAA is just a bball venue to the agencies. USC is just a member in the league. There's no real strategy used to send Mayo to USC. The only guarantees were that he WAS going to a Nike school and that it was going to be in a major basketball conference.
True. Good post