NFL Discussion Thread - Hall of Fame Game: August 3rd

[651akathepaul]

If Brett Favre can chuck picks and eventually win a Super Bowl so can Romo.

No free agent available or anyone in the draft comes close to Tony Romo.

Joe Flacco just won a Super Bowl and Romo is 5x the QB that Flacco is, just without the supporting cast. Tony and Dez just recently finally got on the same page and Miles comes and goes. Witten has been the one constant and it shows. No continuity whatsoever there. I'm tellin' ya'll...too much is taken at face value with Romo.

Uh oh, Dez slander

*waits for stats to fly*

But I agree.

Also shotty Oline play, shotty defense and also coaching / play calling.

Nah...Dez is certainly coming into his own, that's for sure, but no one can act like he started out as a guy any QB can trust. And it's a definite that all those things you mentioned in the last line are hardly ever accounted for when evaluating why Tony might play the way he does or why he may fall victim to pressing himself into ugly mistakes. It's also what people neglect when they compare him to a guy who has a football team around him.

 

[651akathepaul]

$55 million guaranteed is stupid. Locking up Romo long-term, isn't.

 

[pabstblueribbon]

That's what happens though when your the QB of "America's team"

 

[mez 0ne]

Romo is FAR from a gunslinger, esp compared to Brett Favre. Favre attempts a much higher rate of pass attempts per game (33.7 career average) and throws downfield lot more than Romo (26. has. The QBs of old are a different breed compared to today's QBs, like night and day.

 

[651akathepaul]

Number of attempts and throwing deep doesn't define a gunslinger quarterback.

To me, a gunslinger is someone who takes risks throwing the football or plays a little haphazardly where you can either make very difficult plays look amazing or relatively easy plays look harder than they really are. Both characteristics of Favre and Romo.

This is a definition of a gunslinger I just found:

A forceful and adventurous participant in a particular sphere.

Romo is definitely adventurous when he plays.

 

[mez 0ne]

that definition is in a good/funny way.

Gunslinger to me is someone who chucks it down the field with no remorse ala Flacco, canon of an arm.

 

[651akathepaul]

Oh....I'm sorry that a word open to interpretation doesn't fit your opinion.

 

[651akathepaul]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...re-tony-romo-is-the-quarterback-most-like-me/

And this one with Gruden who specifically calls Romo a gunslilnger.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/10/02/listen-jon-gruden-excessively-praises-tony-romo/

There's more...

 

[Peep Game]

We're really gonna say McNabb had more talent on his teams than Romo? ok. I'm pretty sure Dez, Austin, and T.O. are better than Baskett, Thrash, and......Avant?

 

[651akathepaul]

We're really gonna say McNabb had more talent on his teams than Romo? ok. I'm pretty sure Dez, Austin, and T.O. are better than Baskett, Thrash, and......Avant?

I knew someone would look squarely at the WR's and make a claim automatically that the Cowboys TEAM > Eagles.



But yeah..T.O., the rogue receiver...Dez, who didn't know where to be half the time early on in his career...Austin who plays 50% of games..Hell...I'd take the latter too!

Look deeper folks. Please.

 

[shatterkneesinc]

skip said it best, romo plays just good enough to break your heart

 

[va757va]

I knew someone would look squarely at the WR's and make a claim automatically that the Cowboys TEAM > Eagles.

But yeah..T.O., the rogue receiver...Dez, who didn't know where to be half the time early on in his career...Austin who plays 50% of games..Hell...I'd take the latter too!

Look deeper folks. Please.

theyll never look deeper...hit them with stats as to why romo > _____ then its 'stats dont tell the whole picture'.

hit em with its a team game he cant do it himself and all of a sudden romo has played on 'loaded' teams...lol...get real..

mcnabb had a top 10 defense 7 of his 10 eagle seasons...5 years it was a top 5 defense...

romo had a top 15 defense twice..

 

[va757va]

notice i took it to defense..not wrs...defense...

some of yall lose the concept that its a TEAM GAME..emphasis on TEAM ...

 

[flyerthandelta]

We're really gonna say McNabb had more talent on his teams than Romo? ok. I'm pretty sure Dez, Austin, and T.O. are better than Baskett, Thrash, and......Avant?

We gonna act like you aint leave out Djax Westbrook and Maclin

 

[Peep Game]

Already knew you'd mention that. So, Jackson & Maclin (and McCoy & Brent Celek) were there the entire time McNabb was there? That's news to me. I went to the WRs/offense cause, well, McNabb and Romo are QBs and QBs are on the offensive side of the ball. Point is, Romo had a hell of a lot more weapons once he became a starter than McNabb had nearly his entire career. McNabb had a subpar/mediocre WR cast for the majority of his career, and though Westbrook was fantastic, the Eagles still (for some reason) were a pass oriented offense with those WRs. And by the time Maclin/Jackson/McCoy came in, he only play with them for maybe 2 years before they ran him out of Philly.

 

[pabstblueribbon]

Don't forget Todd pinkston

Listen.

It doesn't really matter at this point, because the cowboys will never amount to anything as long Jerry Jones is playing madden from his office, the only team the girls have had success is when someone is running the show.

Pay Tony all you want, it's gonna lead to maybe wild card spots and 1st round exits.

 

[flyerthandelta]

Already knew you'd mention that. So, Jackson & Maclin (and McCoy & Brent Celek) were there the entire time McNabb was there? That's news to me. I went to the WRs/offense cause, well, McNabb and Romo are QBs and QBs are on the offensive side of the ball. Point is, Romo had a hell of a lot more weapons once he became a starter than McNabb had nearly his entire career. McNabb had a subpar/mediocre WR cast for the majority of his career, and though Westbrook was fantastic, the Eagles still (for some reason) were a pass oriented offense with those WRs. And by the time Maclin/Jackson/McCoy came in, he only play with them for maybe 2 years before they ran him out of Philly.

Overall wasn't the team good I mean how many NFC championship gms were they in with that offense

 

[Maximus Meridius]

At some point y'all gotta stop defending this dude. How many times does he have to break your heart Cowboys fans?

 

[Nike Still Sux]

Matt Slauson is a nice pickup for the Bears shotty o-line. He can't dive at anyone's knees anymore though

 

[thasoleful1]

Anybody got Kipers mock draft 4.0?

 

[fear the ibis]

If Brett Favre can chuck picks and eventually win a Super Bowl so can Romo.

@ comparing a guy who is top 5 allt-time in 4th quarter GW drives to Romo.....Who is tied with Jeff Garcia.

 

[pabstblueribbon]

Farve is top 5 because he put them in that position to begin with

Much like Eli and his "magic"

 

[gmsboy1]

If Brett Favre can
chuck picks and eventually win a Super Bowl
so can Romo.

@ comparing a guy who is top 5 allt-time in 4th quarter GW drives to Romo.....Who is tied with Jeff Garcia.

Farve has 205 more starts than romo..
at using a total stat vs percentage based in this case

 

[mr jordan04]

At some point y'all gotta stop defending this dude. How many times does he have to break your heart Cowboys fans?

 

[debso]

Farve is top 5 because he put them in that position to begin with

Much like Eli and his "magic"

don't throw rocks at the throne.