NFL Discussion Thread - Hall of Fame Game: August 3rd

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Woody Paige, Denver columnist, said "My source say AP has won MVP."

This is the same guy who writes perverted things on a white board behind him on national television though...
 
moss is more talented than moss. that is probably the only thing moss is more than rice. rice is the arguably the greatest to play the game. talent does not equal greatness without hard word and dedication.
 
moss is more talented than moss.
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Luke Kuechly  Defensive Rookie of the Year

RGIII - Offensive Rookie of the Year
 
Ravens - 24
Niners - 20

Niners score first, Ravens take the lead and never trail after the half
 
^ I think he was good and had a great year. I just think he had it easier than Luck and was in a similar situation as Russell.

How many players can most people name from the Colts?
Colts were a 2 win team last year
Colts don't have an O line or a RB or defense


I don't see how Luck doesn't get it? INTs isn't a good enough reason but I'm not shocked that Griffin won.
 
I totally agree with the point on Luck.

Luck was the only one thrown into a Pro style offense. He took a team with a 5-11 roster to a 11-5 record. Turnaround from 2-14 to 11-5 is ridiculous. Football is not a game of stats, never has been never will be. Luck did more with less and was one of the greatest rookie QBs of all time IMO. Props to RG3 though, he definitely deserved this award as well.
 
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