NFL Discussion Thread - Hall of Fame Game: August 3rd

[fraij da 5 11]

 

[jpzx]

 

[fraij da 5 11]

How'd that turn out?

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Low blow

 

[jjs07]

Posted this in the Draft thread by accident:

I took these stats from another site. However, I'd love to get folks' opinion on this? On the heels of Ray Lewis' retirement, where do you all think London Fletcher stacks up? Is he HOF worthy?

Look at the #'s

Ray Lewis (RL) vs. London Fletcher (LF)

Years Played - RL: 17 ... LF: 15
Combined Tackles - RL: 1,336 ... LF: 1,685
Total Tackles - RL: 972 ... LF: 1,134
Assists - RL: 364 ... LF: 551
Sacks - RL: 41.5 ... LF: 37
Pass Def - RL: 67 ... LF: 73
INT - RL: 31 ... LF: 23
TD's - RL: 3 ... LF: 2
Forced Fumbles - RL: 17 ... LF: 18
Super Bowl Rings - RL: 1 ... LF: 1

VERY similar.

 

[DeadsetAce]

so anyone got those injury reports for this weekend's games?

52 Patriots are questionable

Lol.

bill belichick's injury reports

 

[jpzx]

 

[fraij da 5 11]

 

Yo I'd have one of these in every room of my house if I was a vikings fan.

 

[flyerthandelta]

Folks done went Casper on us lol

 

[proshares]

I'm still trying to recover from the ESPN poll asking who was better, Ray or LT.

 

[T0INE]

Posted this in the Draft thread by accident:

I took these stats from another site. However, I'd love to get folks' opinion on this? On the heels of Ray Lewis' retirement, where do you all think London Fletcher stacks up? Is he HOF worthy?

Look at the #'s

Ray Lewis (RL) vs. London Fletcher (LF)

Years Played - RL: 17 ... LF: 15
Combined Tackles - RL: 1,336 ... LF: 1,685
Total Tackles - RL: 972 ... LF: 1,134
Assists - RL: 364 ... LF: 551
Sacks - RL: 41.5 ... LF: 37
Pass Def - RL: 67 ... LF: 73
INT - RL: 31 ... LF: 23
TD's - RL: 3 ... LF: 2
Forced Fumbles - RL: 17 ... LF: 18
Super Bowl Rings - RL: 1 ... LF: 1

VERY similar.

I remember someone posted a comparison of Ray's and London's stats in a WIR thread I believe a couple of years ago (was it you?

) and I was surprised at how similar their stats are.

Fletcher doesn't have the accolades that Ray has in terms of Pro Bowls and All Pro selections which may hinder his HOF changes but he is severely underrated.

 

[sb]

Posted this in the Draft thread by accident:
I took these stats from another site. However, I'd love to get folks' opinion on this? On the heels of Ray Lewis' retirement, where do you all think London Fletcher stacks up? Is he HOF worthy?
Look at the #'s
VERY similar.

great post. id say london fletcher is a hall of fame player. didnt know his stats and rays were close. london fletcher has played 2 years less as well.

 

[jjs07]

I remember someone posted a comparison of Ray's and London's stats in a WIR thread I believe a couple of years ago (was it you? ) and I was surprised at how similar their stats are.

Fletcher doesn't have the accolades that Ray has in terms of Pro Bowls and All Pro selections which may hinder his HOF changes but he is severely underrated.

It probably was me

Even after a few years, the numbers are still very close. I mean, Ray is WIDELY regarded as a top-5 LB to ever play the game. Personally, I'd think that London Fletcher, despite being criminally underrated, should be in the top-10/15 at the very minimum.

 

[cash money 1999]

My point being how hypocritical it is to just dismiss denver's eleven game win streak even though you put stock in mental toughness. You'll say that a loss is a "good" loss (NE vs SF because they fought back) but Den has "bad" wins ("11 games blowing the doors off inferior opponents").
You're not being consistent. Picking and choosing what accrues mental toughness. Which was my point all along. Which is why I brought up the Patriots. If Denver's win streak means nothing, what is the state of the Patriots considering they almost lost to JAX? Less than nothing?

wasnt the turning point in denvers season being down 24 points at half to the chargers , did that not give them confidence and mental toughness.........................

 

[Peep Game]

The hell went on in here ?

 

[ag 47]

The hell went on in here ?

Mental toughness

 

[DeadsetAce]

I remember someone posted a comparison of Ray's and London's stats in a WIR thread I believe a couple of years ago (was it you? ) and I was surprised at how similar their stats are.

Fletcher doesn't have the accolades that Ray has in terms of Pro Bowls and All Pro selections which may hinder his HOF changes but he is severely underrated.

It probably was me

Even after a few years, the numbers are still very close. I mean, Ray is WIDELY regarded as a top-5 LB to ever play the game. Personally, I'd think that London Fletcher, despite being criminally underrated, should be in the top-10/15 at the very minimum.

why do you think fletcher is so underrated? obviously not being on a big time defense like the ravens contributes to that. it's pretty much been the story of his football career i guess. he was an undrafted guy, right?

his streak of never missing a game is pretty damn impressive, especially considering the fact that he's a bit undersized for the position.

 

[DeadsetAce]

The hell went on in here ?

Mental toughness

i don't think that was even that bad. there another little "skirmish" in here that was FAR more entertaining

 

[S4L]

I remember someone posted a comparison of Ray's and London's stats in a WIR thread I believe a couple of years ago (was it you? ) and I was surprised at how similar their stats are.

Fletcher doesn't have the accolades that Ray has in terms of Pro Bowls and All Pro selections which may hinder his HOF changes but he is severely underrated.

It probably was me

Even after a few years, the numbers are still very close. I mean, Ray is WIDELY regarded as a top-5 LB to ever play the game. Personally, I'd think that London Fletcher, despite being criminally underrated, should be in the top-10/15 at the very minimum.

why do you think fletcher is so underrated?

He builds resumes for former and current ******** in his spare time for his Canton phantom stats hall of fame...

 

[ii flash ii]

Bill O'Brien staying at Penn State

 

[stillin729]

Bill O'Brien staying at Penn State

Thank you baby Jesus, I can't take much more as an alum

 

[jjs07]

why do you think fletcher is so underrated? obviously not being on a big time defense like the ravens contributes to that. it's pretty much been the story of his football career i guess. he was an undrafted guy, right?
his streak of never missing a game is pretty damn impressive, especially considering the fact that he's a bit undersized for the position.

He's been EXTREMELY productive over the course of his career but has often been overlooked by guys who play on better teams/defenses. I think his first PB berth was with the Skins a few years back. Just look at the #'s...they stack up right next to Ray Lewis, and he's regarded as one of the best to play the ILB/MLB position. I think he'll wind up in the hall when it's all said and done.

He builds resumes for former and current ******** in his spare time for his Canton phantom stats hall of fame...

Shut your simple, gump *** up for once.

Bill O'Brien staying at Penn State

I was reading that no teams were willing to pay his buy out.

 

[Peep Game]

The hell went on in here ?

Mental toughness

 

[powerballin]

Seeing Jason Taylor on ESPN reminds me of Jason Pitts

Pitts n dip!

 

[sb]

2000 yard club

attempts / yards / tds / yards per attempt / yards per game

eric dickerson

379

2105

14

66

5.6

131.6

no mvp

no superbowl

adrian peterson

348

2097

12

82

6.0

131.1

mvp: to be determined

superbowl: to be determined

jamal lewis

387

2066

14

82

5.3

129.1

no mvp

no superbowl

barry sanders

335

2053

11

82

6.1

128.3

mvp

no superbowl

terrell davis

392

2008

21

70

5.1

125.5

mvp

superbowl

chris johnson

358

2006

14

91

5.6

125.4

no mvp

no superbowl

oj simpson

332

2003

12

80

6.0

143.1

mvp

no superbowl

ap has had a great season but unless he wins the mvp (unlikely) and superbowl (unlikely), terrell davis has had the best season for the 2000 yard club.