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Nasty win, but it's a win.
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First thing I thought of in that moment lmao.Now THIS is how you tank. Bravo.
They are NOT trying to win, epic stealth tank job in the clutch by Coach Hardy
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AD needs to beat Bron's *** for trying to give that game away.
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Also, shout outs to Max, Gabe and even that bum JHS.
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Now THIS is how you tank. Bravo.
I mean, you can clearly see that AD disengages from playing defense as soon as he hears the ref blow the *censored* out of his whistle.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Clearly heard the whistle.
Like he's literally crouched down as Sexton is driving and then he hears the ref go crazy with the whistle and he completely disengages.
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Gabe with 10 whole American basketball points!!!
Enough to carry him through March
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One point “win” on a technicality from a bottom barrel team. Woo hoo!!
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Come on.
This game would mean absolutely nothing win or lose.
No DLo. No AR. No Cam.
Starting Gabe. Playing JHS.
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True. But they need every win they can get until they figure out how to beat the good teams
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Sign me up for more of these non _'angelo Russell games
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I think there are wiser ways to build out the team, BUT if Bron continues being up and down offensively, then I can see why the Lakers would be interested in BI. He'd also be a bridge with AD and AR for the next next three years after Bron retires.
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Reasons against it, or why it is complicated (in no order).
1. Pelicans will want AR, not DLo. Especially after the AD trade.
If Lakers balk with AR. It will likely cost them an unprotected pick and a swap at minimum. And if not AR, Knecht, which the Lakers will 100% balk at. So to appease, Max could be seen as a throw in as well. As Rui would also be a short term fit and try to flip in the off season.
2. BI has had issues with role changes in the past. And he will have a pretty significant role change usage wise.
3. If AR isn't traded out, he will have a pretty significant role change again. Not that the current role has been a good one for him, but still.
4. BI has a pretty consistent injury history. Outside of his rookie year, here's his missed games
2017-18: 23
2018-19: 30
2019-20: 10
2020-21: 11
2021-22: 27
2022-23: 37
2023-24: 18
2024-25: 5 already
You're banking on him not missing another 10-15 games, which if you're trading out DLo & Rui, you cannot have.
5. He is switching agencies because he wants his max deal, which the Pelicans have been meh about. But there also isn't a team that is a better situation that will even touch close to what he feels he's worth in Free Agency. MAYBE the Rockets after they let FVV go, and move some things around. If Lakers trade for him, he'll be expecting it. If Lakers play hardball with him. Could take a deal elsewhere for a couple mil more, and then what?
6. The guard rotation will be really bad. Hell the bench goes back to the worst in the league. If you don't have Vando. It's a super short rotation.
Gabe / Max / Cam / Wood / Hayes
Sure you could try DSJ or Fultz, but the expectation from them shouldn't be high. Should be what Dinwiddie gave them, probably worse because Dinwiddie was / is a better offensive player. So 5/2 in 20 minutes per game?
7. Team gets worse in shooting, especially in the type of shooting that plays off of Bron/AD
8. Trading with the Pelicans will be tough because you won't be able to dump anything as they can't take back more than $2mil in salaries, or else they'd be past the first apron and then we wouldn't be able to trade with them at all unless it was down to the dollar match.
Pelicans will want to clear some money to get out of the tax if they are blowing it up, which means we can't trade with them. Or would need a third team to accomplish this, which won't help the Lakers.
9. They don't get better at rebounding.
10. Defensively meh. BI is the best defender of the 3. But BI would be the primary wing defender for the entire team, that's not promising. Unless Vando grows new feet.
11. They would still be a couple moves away still. And have at the very least traded away most moveable assets.
12. Doesn't answer their most pressing need.
Reason for it:
He scores with more variety than AR, DLO & Rui
He defends marginally better than Rui
If you give him 1st Option usage, he'll get you 23-24 PPG. (Both DLo & AR would do this with 19 shots a game as well).
Only way it makes sense to me:
If it was only 1 of DLo or Rui.
Rui + Gabe + Max Christie + Max Lewis + 1st & a couple seconds attached for BI
1. Pelicans will want AR, not DLo. Especially after the AD trade.
If Lakers balk with AR. It will likely cost them an unprotected pick and a swap at minimum. And if not AR, Knecht, which the Lakers will 100% balk at. So to appease, Max could be seen as a throw in as well. As Rui would also be a short term fit and try to flip in the off season.
2. BI has had issues with role changes in the past. And he will have a pretty significant role change usage wise.
3. If AR isn't traded out, he will have a pretty significant role change again. Not that the current role has been a good one for him, but still.
4. BI has a pretty consistent injury history. Outside of his rookie year, here's his missed games
2017-18: 23
2018-19: 30
2019-20: 10
2020-21: 11
2021-22: 27
2022-23: 37
2023-24: 18
2024-25: 5 already
You're banking on him not missing another 10-15 games, which if you're trading out DLo & Rui, you cannot have.
5. He is switching agencies because he wants his max deal, which the Pelicans have been meh about. But there also isn't a team that is a better situation that will even touch close to what he feels he's worth in Free Agency. MAYBE the Rockets after they let FVV go, and move some things around. If Lakers trade for him, he'll be expecting it. If Lakers play hardball with him. Could take a deal elsewhere for a couple mil more, and then what?
6. The guard rotation will be really bad. Hell the bench goes back to the worst in the league. If you don't have Vando. It's a super short rotation.
Gabe / Max / Cam / Wood / Hayes
Sure you could try DSJ or Fultz, but the expectation from them shouldn't be high. Should be what Dinwiddie gave them, probably worse because Dinwiddie was / is a better offensive player. So 5/2 in 20 minutes per game?
7. Team gets worse in shooting, especially in the type of shooting that plays off of Bron/AD
8. Trading with the Pelicans will be tough because you won't be able to dump anything as they can't take back more than $2mil in salaries, or else they'd be past the first apron and then we wouldn't be able to trade with them at all unless it was down to the dollar match.
Pelicans will want to clear some money to get out of the tax if they are blowing it up, which means we can't trade with them. Or would need a third team to accomplish this, which won't help the Lakers.
9. They don't get better at rebounding.
10. Defensively meh. BI is the best defender of the 3. But BI would be the primary wing defender for the entire team, that's not promising. Unless Vando grows new feet.
11. They would still be a couple moves away still. And have at the very least traded away most moveable assets.
12. Doesn't answer their most pressing need.
Reason for it:
He scores with more variety than AR, DLO & Rui
He defends marginally better than Rui
If you give him 1st Option usage, he'll get you 23-24 PPG. (Both DLo & AR would do this with 19 shots a game as well).
Only way it makes sense to me:
If it was only 1 of DLo or Rui.
Rui + Gabe + Max Christie + Max Lewis + 1st & a couple seconds attached for BI
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MIKE LOWERY
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I think there are wiser ways to build out the team, BUT if Bron continues being up and down offensively, then I can see why the Lakers would be interested in BI. He'd also be a bridge with AD and AR for the next next three years after Bron retires.
For that price I don't like the fit. BUT he at least covers for losing a ballhandler/playmaker and another 20ppg should cut down on Bron chucking 30 footers at the end of every game.
If this could turn into a three teamer with other pieces coming back...................
Bored before the game so messing around a little on the trade machine
Really weird, but I like this from a depth perspective and all the reasons you mentioned. Don't like Walker Kessler for this current iteration of LAL as their are better bigs from a playstyle perspective, but this is solid on all fronts and does give you flexibility. You could unprotect that 2027 1st, which I think then gives you access to the two 2nd rounders which they could then use in one more deal.
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Finally, a deal that makes some sense. Hell toss in JHS too.
And create a huge 2nd apron cushion.
And create a huge 2nd apron cushion.
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I think both teams have had that trade in their backpocket all along and are just waiting/hoping to find a better deal elsewhere before circling back.
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Pelicans want off that Ingram contract and DLo expiring ain't bad. They'd probably want some more young talent (Christie).
Valanciunas is buns defensively too. If there's a trade, I just want one other starter who wants to defend
Valanciunas is buns defensively too. If there's a trade, I just want one other starter who wants to defend
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