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well thats what this thread is for right?I missed that part but I would absolutely entertain a Kidd vs Kobe debate.
I missed that part but I would absolutely entertain a Kidd vs Kobe debate.
I missed that part but I would absolutely entertain a Kidd vs Kobe debate.
Here's the thing though CP, in my case, even when I address the group as "laker fans" or "kobe fans" i NEVER say "All laker fans" or "All kobe fans" think this way. However, yes I am addressing "laker fans" or "Kobe fans" because well...that's what they are fans of. And majority of the time, it's a couple of them not just one so I'm not trying to go and look at everybody's screen name which is why i just put "laker fans" or "Kobe fans."
but in your case wasnt it just nako and cp that you were accusing of crying over the heat in 06? this is like me saying something ignorant like "asians are ________" people getting mad at me and me back tracking and saying "no no, i just said asians are ______ i never said ALL asians are _____"Here's the thing though CP, in my case, even when I address the group as "laker fans" or "kobe fans" i NEVER say "All laker fans" or "All kobe fans" think this way. However, yes I am addressing "laker fans" or "Kobe fans" because well...that's what they are fans of. And majority of the time, it's a couple of them not just one so I'm not trying to go and look at everybody's screen name which is why i just put "laker fans" or "Kobe fans."
but in your case wasnt it just nako and cp that you were accusing of crying over the heat in 06? this is like me saying something ignorant like "asians are ________" people getting mad at me and me back tracking and saying "no no, i just said asians are ______ i never said ALL asians are _____"
I hear that, and you and I have been around long enough, I know that while you have different views than me, I don't lump you in with some others that are clearly up to no good. I know at the very least you know what you're talkin about, and I can respect that, even if I disagree with what you're saying. I would hope I've at least earned that with the people that come at me, while they don't agree with my views, I'm not one of those that goes Kobe > MJ and dips out. laugh.gif
I'll stay and chat with folks at least, and you do the same. But "Laker fans" has become a derogatory term around here the past couple years, and that sucks. I hate it's like that for us. There are a lot of good ones and I don't like them being lumped in with others.
I woukd but My opinions aren't biased enough for this thread. All I will say is that Kidd is arguably second best at his position as well and to dismiss him that fast is kinda dumb to me.well thats what this thread is for right?
bring on your argument
fair enough but from what i have seen its a lot more than just lakers fans that think that about 06, personally i was rooting for the heat to win that year since shaq's my boy. i didnt mean that you only using the term for the first time yesterday, i just dont like the way it is used in general. just like how there are heat fans here that dont like getting grouped with lebron fans that go around saying ******ed things.In this thread it was just them but I already mentioned even in my previous posts after that, that it's been that way with a lot of laker fans throughout the years here on NT. That's why when it was brought up again, it was like, "oh lord, here we go again."but in your case wasnt it just nako and cp that you were accusing of crying over the heat in 06? this is like me saying something ignorant like "asians are ________" people getting mad at me and me back tracking and saying "no no, i just said asians are ______ i never said ALL asians are _____"
Anyway, if you been here long enough, which i'm not sure you have, i always pretty much address the group either as "laker fans" or "Kobe fans" but don't mean it to mean the WHOLE fanbase. So i was referring to all those times, not just yesterday when I wrote "in my case."
Oh yeah definitely, i mean i been here long enough to remember the debates we had back then so i definitely know you're not just one of those "Laker/Kobe" fans that just say ******ed things.I hear that, and you and I have been around long enough, I know that while you have different views than me, I don't lump you in with some others that are clearly up to no good. I know at the very least you know what you're talkin about, and I can respect that, even if I disagree with what you're saying. I would hope I've at least earned that with the people that come at me, while they don't agree with my views, I'm not one of those that goes Kobe > MJ and dips out. laugh.gif
I'll stay and chat with folks at least, and you do the same. But "Laker fans" has become a derogatory term around here the past couple years, and that sucks. I hate it's like that for us. There are a lot of good ones and I don't like them being lumped in with others.
loled at thatI woukd but My opinions aren't biased enough for this thread. All I will say is that Kidd is arguably second best at his position as well and to dismiss him that fast is kinda dumb to me.well thats what this thread is for right?
bring on your argument
Word ill check it out when I have some timeloled at that
if you go look for the exact posts in this thread it was actually a good back and forth.
Statements like this are what kill me. Read everything you're saying... it's a joke.
"he won't allow his team to go out like that."
I mean... what the hell does that even mean?
This is the same as when people see the Lakers struggling and say "it pains me to see Kobe go out like this."
GO OUT LIKE WHAT?
If you've even remotely followed the Lakers' season, you would know that the reason they are in 8th place is because Kobe Bryant shoots them out of games. He has been doing it his whole career. The Lakers have always been trash during Kobe Bryant's career when he doesn't have 7-footers to bail out his brick-laying abilities. This year, Gasol has been hurt a lot, and Dwight doesn't play motivated because Kobe Bryant is too busy trying to break scoring records and not passing the ball.
It's very clear to anyone that understands basketball and watches the Lakers that he is the reason they're barely .500.
But people like you turn on the SportsCenter top 10 plays and see his scoring average vs. the other players on his team and conclude that the rest of the team isn't doing anything and Kobe Bryant is keeping them in the playoff hunt by his lonesome.
What the hell does this have to do with anything? Dwyane Wade is not Kobe Bryant.
In the 2006 playoffs, Dwyane Wade played at a level that Kobe Bryant has never been able to play at in the playoffs. That is why THAT elite 2-guard was able to win Finals MVP on a team with Shaq.
They won because Dwyane Wade was good enough to dominate a series vs. the Pistons in the ECF, something Kobe Bryant tried his hardest to do in 2004, but failed miserably.
They won because Dwayne Wade was good enough to dominate an NBA Finals and make all the key plays and free throws in the 2006 NBA Finals... something that Kobe Bryant tried to hard to do in 2004, but failed.
They won in 2006 because Dwyane Wade WAS THAT good, not because he THOUGHT he was THAT good, without actually being THAT good, word to Kobe in 2004.
But Kobe as a starter has never averaged stats (basic or advanced) nearly as bad as what JR is averaging right now in the best statistical season of his career. i get the unchecked gunner analogy, but jr smith? and i love jr. he brings the lulz.
If you put all of CP's post in here together you could have a novel