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What y'all been doing to stay in shape??
Since I'm still working in office, I'm still walking from the Ferry building to work. Then on my lunch break, I'll walk another mile or so and just explore downtown while keeping my distance from people on the streets. (Had no idea Centerfolds was a block away from my work :evil:)

When I get home I've been doing 'yoga' or pushups with my daughter so it's something for her to do.

And I've had the blessed opportunity to clap my wife's cheeks more since she's been off the pill. Her drive is pretty turnt up right now, so I know I've been burning some calories there. :lol::wink:
 
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I’m just saying the stimulus package really really overcompensates for those living in areas where the rent is dirt cheap.

In NYC for example u can still get 1k rent in parts of Bronx, BK, etc for a full 1 bedroom. These families definitely make less than 150k cut off too.

Not saying it’s a bad thing, everyone needs a break.
 
Fed predicting 30%+ unemployment. Got a lot of people to feel for
yep, that's the long term projection. So my question is, for those employed still who will be getting checks, is it more for a "just in case" scenario in a couple of months? Employed today but might not be employed in 2-3 months?

Should those who are still employed be allowed to push rent back and other bills?
 
yep, that's the long term projection. So my question is, for those employed still who will be getting checks, is it more for a "just in case" scenario in a couple of months? Employed today but might not be employed in 2-3 months?

Should those who are still employed be allowed to push rent back and other bills?

Sure, they should be able to push back. Usually they got their kids going to school, now they need to pay for childcare or different issues with the pandemic. Not like they're getting a free pass. If want to be more strict, make them submit documentation for their economic hardship.
huge difference between someone living in SF vs someone living in West Virginia

at the end of the day, its going to be impossible to make everyone happy.

Yup. I suggested basing off of median income of the state or county instead of some random 75000$ figure.
 
At some point it gets too much though. Hong Kong citizens had been rightfully protesting against their government for all of 2019, but when this virus came into the picture, they knew it was the #1 priority and followed all orders to reduce the spread. People should have the ability to Differentiate between the government’s abuse and the government’s efforts to save lives

like @luisfigo mentioned, I have a lot of issues with London Breed’s incompetence, but her shut down of SF ahead of everyone else is a good example of how we can put aside other issues and focus on the biggest threat out there at the moment. Orders to stay at home aren’t taking away your “freedom”, they’re literally saving lives. A large chunk of Americans just hear the word “order” and immediately react in the dumbest way possible
I agree that on this situation, you should put all of your personal resentment to the side and follow the rules. I was actually going to post on the first response that in this case, extreme individualism is a hindrance as far as people not following the governments orders. There is a point in which, if you do question the governing bodies, at least verify whether or not the real experts are echoing the same sentiments.
 
What y'all been doing to stay in shape??
My current plan
Monday 100 push ups followed by a run
Wednesday 100 curls , 50 shoulder pressed with dumbbells
Friday 50 pull ups followed by a run

Daily I walk around the complex for about 20 minutes and sometimes get on my bike.
 
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What y'all been doing to stay in shape??
Been getting an early start on cycling for the year. It's still pretty damn cold when the wind hits your face, but I'm a 10 minute ride to the beach on some very scenic roads so the bad outweighs the good. I can't wait until it gets nicer out so I can take some longer rides. Probably gonna cop this Fuji when my birthday rolls around:

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Anybody looking for tp or paper towels, keep your eyes glued to Amazon. They post listings randomly throughout the day, just gotta be patient. We’ve gotten lucky this past week so we should be ok for a little while. Wasn’t about to be fighting with people in the store over tissue smh
 
California governor believes coronavirus peak will come mid-May


Based on modeling in California, Gov. Gavin Newsom says the peak number of cases in hospitals throughout the state will come in mid-May.

Preparations for a potential surge of 50,000 needed hospital beds are underway with an expectation that about 10,000 of those beds will be in intensive care units, requiring ventilation support.

Dr. Mark Ghaly, the state's Health and Human Services secretary, says the model takes into account how residents perform with physical distancing efforts across the state.
 
Coronavirus death rate is lower than previously reported, study says, but it's still deadlier than seasonal flu

The research, published in the medical journal The Lancet Infectious Diseases, estimated that about 0.66% of those infected with the virus will die.


That coronavirus death rate, which is lower than earlier estimates, takes into account potentially milder cases that often go undiagnosed -- but it's still far higher than the 0.1% of people who are killed by the flu.


When undetected infections aren't taken into account, the Lancet study found that the coronavirus death rate was 1.38%, which is more consistent with earlier reports.

Early in March, for example, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the US National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said that "if you just do the math, the math is about 2%."

But he emphasized that the number could go down, saying that "as a group it's going to depend completely on what the factor of asymptomatic cases are."

That's because death rates typically only consider reported coronavirus cases, which tend to be more severe, and thus brought to the attention of health care workers. Asymptomatic cases -- or mild cases -- may not always be counted.

In this study, researchers tried to estimate the true "infection fatality rate." In other words, out of everybody infected -- not just those sick enough to get tested -- how many people will die?

To find out, researchers looked at how widespread infections were among people repatriated to their home countries on flights from Wuhan, China.

According to the study, these people received PCR tests -- a type of test that would be able to identify how many of those travelers were shedding the virus, even if they didn't show symptoms.

Researchers combined that data on "infection prevalence" with public information on reported cases and deaths, estimating the overall death rate to be about two-thirds of 1%.

That number, though, went up in older adults, with approximately 7.8% of those 80 or older estimated to die after infection. And deaths were estimated to be exceedingly rare in children younger than 9, with a fatality rate of just 0.00161%.


For age groups younger than 40, the death rate was never higher than 0.16%, according to the study. Out of 1,000 young adults infected, then, about 1 or 2 could die, with the youngest people facing the lowest risk.

"There might be outlying cases that get a lot of media attention, but our analysis very clearly shows that at aged 50 and over, hospitalisation is much more likely than in those under 50, and a greater proportion of cases are likely to be fatal," said Azra Ghani, a professor at Imperial College London and an author of the study, in a statement.

Researchers looked at other data, too, including tens of thousands of cases inside and outside of mainland China, as well as 3,711 people who were aboard a coronavirus-stricken cruise ship, the Diamond Princess.


The study found that it could take weeks for people to recover from coronavirus, which could magnify potential health care shortages: The longer it takes for people to get better, the longer they may need precious hospital space and resources.

The average time from onset of symptoms to hospital discharge was about 25 days, researchers found, although patients might not have been hospitalized during the early days of their illness. Among those who succumbed to the virus, death came about 18 days after people started showing symptoms.

In an article accompanying the research, Shigui Ruan, a professor of mathematics at the University of Miami, emphasized that estimating the coronavirus death rate "in real time during its epidemic is very challenging."

But understanding how many people die from a virus, he said, is an important piece of data that can help guide responses from governments and public health authorities.

Ruan, who was not involved with the research, also noted that the coronavirus fatality rate is low for younger people. But he stressed that "it is very clear that any suggestion of COVID-19 being just like influenza is false," with coronavirus remaining far deadlier than the seasonal flu.

 
It’s sad Over here in Phx you can’t go pass a exit at night on highway to not see a cop on the side with they radar out.... clown ****, they care more about making money in a crisis, sad times we in.
Phoenician here aswell. I commute to work early and I see them posted on corners lurking.
 
God, the testing in our country sucks. How can we call ourselves a world power when we can't do what South Korea and China did expeditiously. It will take that long to peak in Cali because we are just barely getting tests. Ridiculous.
 
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Model cited by White House says 82,000 people could die from coronavirus by August, even with social distancing


President Donald Trump's decision to extend social distancing guidelines until April 30 came after officials reviewed 12 different statistical models, said Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House coronavirus response coordinator, during a Sunday press briefing.

But standing in the Rose Garden, Birx also mentioned another model, created independently, that "ended up at the same numbers." That analysis, which is publicly available, paints a grim picture of what's to come in the US, even with social distancing in place.

As of Monday morning, it estimates that more than 2,000 people could die each day in the United States in mid-April, when the virus is predicted to hit the country hardest. The model, which is updated regularly, predicts that 224,000 hospital beds -- 61,000 more than we'll have -- will be needed on April 15, when the US is estimated to reach "peak resource use."

And assuming social distancing will continue through May, it finds that, by August, around 82,000 people in the US could die from Covid-19.

Birx, pointing to the model on Sunday, said "you can see the concern that we had with the growing number of potential fatalities."
The analysis relies on data from Italy, China and the United States, using past experiences to predict the future.

Like many models, the projections are imperfect, but the researchers behind the project still came to an unsettling conclusion: "Even with social distancing measures enacted and sustained, the peak demand for hospital services due to the COVID-19 pandemic is likely going to exceed capacity substantially."

'An alarming number'
Designed by the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, the model relies on information from state and national governments, hospital groups and the World Health Organization.

Birx, the White House health official, also mentioned the model to Chuck Todd on "Meet the Press" this weekend. "No state, no metro area will be spared," she said during the interview.

State and local officials should quickly react to the coronavirus threat and enact social distancing measures, she said, so that "we'll be able to move forward together and protect the most Americans."

Deaths could be higher if states don't enact those measures -- or if people don't follow them.


 
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