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throughout all of the schooling their is still a huge failure to think critically amongst students...Im not sure why this generation is so sheepish..
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throughout all of the schooling their is still a huge failure to think critically amongst students...Im not sure why this generation is so sheepish..
phd in 3 years?!? what? i thought most people these days dont get one until after ~6 years. congrats though
i really enjoy research (have been doing it full-time as an RA for the past 4 years), but i feel like without a phd, i can't get very far up the ladder and any ideas i throw out often get looked over. so naturally i looked into phd programs. but after having spoken to several scientists in both academia and the industry, i've now changed my career path towards healthcare.
reason 1 is because you really dont know when you'll earn that phd. i know of several scientists who spent 8 years in school :x it seems a lot depends on your PI sponsor and luck on whether your experiments work or not. i'd rather have a set curriculum and be done with school in 4 years as with most health schools.
reason 2, if i were to jump into academia, chances are that i will be alotting a good chunk of time writing grants and stressing over funding. no thanks.
reason 3, if i were to jump into the industry in a small biotech, resources are always limited. the small biotech you're employed by might not be able to afford potentially important experiment/equipment. limiting science due to budget sounds awful.
reason 4, if i were to jump into the industry in a large biotech, resources are abundant, but pink slips can be handed out in the snap of a (exectuive's) finger and without warning. this seems to happen every day.
reason 5, if i were to jump into the health profession, i can set up my own shop and run the damn thang like a real bawse.
thoughts are welcome from all!
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Whats you're degree(s) in?throughout all of the schooling their is still a huge failure to think critically amongst students...Im not sure why this generation is so sheepish..
so its only a few students going after the Business programs?
feelstaloneman... feels real alone...
I am going to University of St. Augustine in San Marcos. what school did you attend? Any advice for study habits and so forth?What school are you attending? I will start my last fieldwork rotation at the end of this month. Let me know if you have any questions.
Got a BA in 2010 and decided to take a break as suggested by one of my professors. I applied to 2 grad programs, I/O Psychology. I got rejected by one and never heard from the other, even after calling and emailing. I even had some convos with the director of the program and he just brushed me off when I emailed him and asked about my application status. Feels bad man |I. I'm applying to Spring programs over the next few weeks. Hopefully land a full time gig with benefits. I'm tired of where I am at and not being able to have anything because of loans.
I am going to University of St. Augustine in San Marcos. what school did you attend? Any advice for study habits and so forth?
Your not alone my friend....hoping to go for my MBA in fall 2014so its only a few students going after the Business programs?
feelstaloneman... feels real alone...
Thinking of going for my MS in Finance instead of an MBA.
Good idea ? I want to work as a investment banking analyst or investment analyst or financial analyst.
MBA vs MS in finance. Pros and cons ?
Has anyone gone to a MBA program or MS in Finance program ? How was it ? Worth it?
aight... here's the best advice i've compiled, b/c i chose to go w/ the MS over the MBA for now.Thinking of going for my MS in Finance instead of an MBA.
Good idea ? I want to work as a investment banking analyst or investment analyst or financial analyst.
MBA vs MS in finance. Pros and cons ?
Has anyone gone to a MBA program or MS in Finance program ? How was it ? Worth it?
appreciate you taking the time to type out all of that.
regarding reason 5, by "health care profession" i mean i want to pursue a career as a health care practitioner - dentist, optometrist, DPT, etc. i think i've already made up my mind on shying away from research, but i'll look into the british phd programs anyway.
yep. Bba- bachelors business administration...Hmmm, what do some of these acronyms mean?
I know what MBA means but how about MS, MA, BBA, etc.? MA = Master of Art? MS = Master of Science?
aight... here's the best advice i've compiled, b/c i chose to go w/ the MS over the MBA for now.Thinking of going for my MS in Finance instead of an MBA.
Good idea ? I want to work as a investment banking analyst or investment analyst or financial analyst.
MBA vs MS in finance. Pros and cons ?
Has anyone gone to a MBA program or MS in Finance program ? How was it ? Worth it?
for an MS, you dont need work history or experience. most programs let you come right into the program b/c its more TECHNICAL than the MBA portion. meaning you will be doing more actual work from the book, than in an MBA. with an MBA, unless you're 4.0 outta Stanford, or cranking out a 740 on the GMAT, its kinda tough to go into a well known program right outta undergrad, b/c they arent as technical as the MS...
doesnt mean its impossible, or never done... just means its alot harder.
an MS, is sometimes looked at on the same level as an MBA... most jobs say "MBA is a plus" but an MS is a plus as well...
MS programs are also a lot quicker. mine is 30 hours, while some MBA programs can be 45-60 hours... some are also done completely online... the reason why is b/c they're so technical. their arent many well known ONLINE ONLY MBAs b/c they require in person type of learning... there are some, but not a lot.
the bad thing about them is some companies WANT an MBA.. and they are NOT the same thing... You dont get to network as well, and it doesnt have the business side in it like an MBA.
MBAs deal more with the business aspect. you're going to be doing a lot of team work, reading, and scenarios. think of it like you're CAPSTONE class that many business majors have to take at the end of their undergrad. lots of team work.
MBAs are suited for C-LEVEL jobs... Chief Operating Officer, Chief Financial Officer, Chief Marketing Officer... they're basically GROOMING you for those type of spots.
also, an MBA has that sound to it... when i tell people "i'm getting my MS" they literally think its a science degree... its far easier to say you got an MBA in Finance, instead of explaining it out...
WITH ME?
i chose the MS Finance program b/c
1. i had a wack GPA in undergrad
2. its a quicker program
3. i can find a decent paying job when i finish
4. i'll be able to pay down my loans
5. i could go right into it...
6. it will definitely help me in getting into a nice MBA program in the future.
7. many MBA programs will not accept you if you already have an MBA... so lets say you get an MBA in finance from a lower tier school. But you want to go to UT Austin and get a general MBA. They will not let you in on the fact that they feel its doing the same thing. its a certain term for it, but i forgot what it is. Going into this MS finance program IS NOT THE SAME as an MBA... so if i wanted to go back and get my MBA in the future, i can.
my plan... is laid out kind of like this...
BBA-Marketing '12 > MS-Finance '14 > MBA >'19
the reason why i'm choosing to get the MS first, is b/c it will teach me the technical side of finance. I have an undergrad in Marketing, that really taught me about looking at how people view and value things, product placement, interviews, and basically selling anything (whether it be myself, a product, an idea).
also, in many business, marketing and finance are on two different sides of the fence. marketing is more subjective, more a brand recognition, while finance is cut and dry, with dollars and cents. many places, they butt heads b/c finance doesnt recognize the value of the marketing team...
my MS-FIN program will be done in '14... i'll be turning 25, and hopefully have a job that is #bawse... i plan on working it for a 2-3 years, using that time to pay my loans down, which will be rougly $35K... if i'm making even just $60K, i'll be able to pay them down to a very low amount, possibly all they way down...
Then i'm going to gun for my MBA... the only reason why i want this is b/c it will help me in trying to take on c-level jobs... i'll be around 30, w/ around 4-6 years experience in finance or marketing, and have a degrees in different areas that use each other (finance and marketing) and an MBA for managing it all.
sounds like a daunting task, but its no different than a doctor or a researcher's assistant... they typically have more than just an additional 4 -5 years of schooling...
eventually i want to dabble in many areas of finance. my goal is to start a small group of members that are able to market business to their target consumer, or even B2B marketing, as well as advise in financial planning and decision making and hedge funds for start up business.... kind of like a marketing/finance firm.. one stop shop.![]()
basically, they give us money, to tell them how to spend money, and market their products.... havent really ironed out all the kinks and it may change drastically, but that's for the future...
how i'm going to get there? by using both sides of the coin... learning the ins and outs of the marketing and financial aspects of a company. I can only do that by doing my job WELL, and not being afraid to take on more responsibilities... i want to start in finance b/c i know that its easier to get the marketing side down than it is finance, so i'm trying to start on the hard part.
different stokes for different folks.Talked to my professor and he said get a job first then see what they want.
different stokes for different folks.
I just know its DAMB hard to get a great job right outta undergrad.. especially in a business field.
Not impossible ... but hard...
I feel that getting the MS will GREATLY aid me in finding a nice job