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First accurate thing you've said.Meth, I think you're a little too deep for me.
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First accurate thing you've said.Meth, I think you're a little too deep for me.
First accurate thing you've said.Meth, I think you're a little too deep for me.
So what are you saying?I NEVER had any idea that there was so much behind this stereotype (Which apparently isn't true) that you guys get so offended about. Why the hell would I go around searching up the history about it.
So what are you saying?I NEVER had any idea that there was so much behind this stereotype (Which apparently isn't true) that you guys get so offended about. Why the hell would I go around searching up the history about it.
You were admittedly uninformed with respect to this stereotype, knowing only that it was offensive with little idea as to why. At one point, you sought to correct that ignorance - but not enough to do anything whatsoever on your own, save for asking someone else to explain it to you.not true.It's not my fault if I'm ignorant so I shouldn't have to do anything about it
and yes, I know you will attempt to turn this on me and state how that's what I'm saying, but it's not.
Meth, I think you're going a little too deep into this.
Educate ourselves? Hell, my school couldn't educate me on this. The few black people that I know personally sure as hell couldn't tell me about any of this information I've learned. The few supremacists and good 'ole boys I know couldn't tell me about this. You want me to educate myself on FRIED CHICKEN AND WATERMELON? Go educate yourself on Oatmeal. I NEVER had any idea that there was so much behind this stereotype (Which apparently isn't true) that you guys get so offended about. Why the hell would I go around searching up the history about it. In my non racist mind I believed it was just another stupid stereotype, just like the ones every other minority has.
No need for you to be looking down on us. I guarantee you half of the black community doesn't know the background behind this. And to those that do and don't get offended, my hats off to you. I believe that's the way it should be. Why are you going to allow some small, untrue stereotype to get to you.
and before I get banned for "supporting a racial slur/stereotype" or whatever you want to call it, it should be like that for every race. Beat your bad stereotypes and do something in life.
You want me to educate myself on FRIED CHICKEN AND WATERMELON? Go educate yourself on Oatmeal.
but who are you to say that someone cannot relate?Yet again it's the same people telling others not to care about something they themselves cannot relate to. If someone makes a slick comment about your mothers and you took offense to it, how stupid would someone look if they said "It's not my mother so I'm not offended and you shouldn't either. Get over it and move on". Like Meth said, it screams of privilege. Like who the **** are you to tell me what I should be offended by when you can't relate.
Meth, I think you're going a little too deep into this.
Educate ourselves? Hell, my school couldn't educate me on this. The few black people that I know personally sure as hell couldn't tell me about any of this information I've learned. The few supremacists and good 'ole boys I know couldn't tell me about this. You want me to educate myself on FRIED CHICKEN AND WATERMELON? Go educate yourself on Oatmeal. I NEVER had any idea that there was so much behind this stereotype (Which apparently isn't true) that you guys get so offended about. Why the hell would I go around searching up the history about it. In my non racist mind I believed it was just another stupid stereotype, just like the ones every other minority has.
No need for you to be looking down on us. I guarantee you half of the black community doesn't know the background behind this. And to those that do and don't get offended, my hats off to you. I believe that's the way it should be. Why are you going to allow some small, untrue stereotype to get to you.
and before I get banned for "supporting a racial slur/stereotype" or whatever you want to call it, it should be like that for every race. Beat your bad stereotypes and do something in life.
Look at you smh...How can you guarantee half the black community doesn't know the background behind this when there were plenty of ppl in this thread alone that informed you, myself included. Ignorance of the law doesn't get ppl off from jail, just like ignorance of stereotypes doesn't exclude you from being labeled prejudiced, especially with how insensitive and condescending your posts are coming off as.
Stop taking it at face value, like we are just disgusted by the Chicken and Watermelon itself, like we're tryna eliminate all Chicken and Watermelon from the Earth. It's the memories and history attached with it that we're disgusted by. Like Meth said, pick up a book, educate yourself. I'm sure you're educated in the background of the N word and I'm even more sure that you use it in the privacy of your home (seeing as how you're a Dom Kennedy fan), and they almost go hand in hand. A slur is a slur, might as well know the history of em all
If it's a valid point, what's the difference?
plenty of good points to be made in here if they weren't delivered in such a condescending manner.
And just look at your username and avatar.dudes trying to justify laughing at a handicapped person.
whatever helps yall sleep at night doe.
I'm being lectured on laziness and "how to beat ignorance by someone" who replied to this thread 10 times but couldn't be bothered to attempt two minutes of research?
as i have said there are lots of people who dont know why its racist and dont put the effort into educating themselves, yes you can see this as their faults and that they are contributing to racism and throw a tantrum, write essays online about how its their job to find information out on their own. but how does that help the problem? thats just you getting mad, calling someone a racist over something they dont fully understand which causes the "racists" to get defensive and nothing can get accomplished.
you can spend all day writing essays about why its not the job of the people in the know to inform those that are ignorant. you're right its not their job, but its the only way for forward progress that you yourself can cause. look at this thread, there are a bunch of guys myself included that didnt know about the origins of the stereotype and because of this thread we have a way better idea of where it came from and why its wrong and after finding out we changed our minds about the article.
that is how you beat ignorance. if you just throw a fit and call people racists without doing anything about it, well i find that pretty lazy.
Who said that? Hyper-sexualization serves much the same purpose. It's bestial and dehumanizing.So big **** stereotype cool.
How do you not understand why it's still offensive? It's still in use.This generation of blacks, hell of people don't have memories about slavery. Flat out, you haven't been a slave due to race in our generation. You can say us as PEOPLE are slaves because of the social pyramid and the distribution of wealth, but I highly doubt half of the black community (outside of NT) has seen "The Birth of a Nation."
As far as me being insensitive, it's an internet forum, I can't use body language or facial expressions on here. I UNDERSTAND why people see it as offensive, now I know the exact reason for it. However, I can't see why today's generation due to ignorance on the matter would be offended.
how does my user name and avy have anything to do with this? your avy is a character from an 80s cartoon. but i digress.
If you're someone who derives unearned privilege from their skin color, who does not know what it's like to be on the other side of that equation, what is it, if NOT an assertion of this very privilege, to:
1) Tell those who are offended - without ANY understanding at all - that they're being "oversensitive."
2) To demand that those who are offended explain the historical context of the offense to you, even though you could easily research it yourself.
3) To insist that they coddle you in the process.
And, if the latter two conditions aren't met, you can actually summon the gall to say, "well, I was mildly interested but you weren't helpful and nice enough. I guess you don't really want to be treated with dignity and respect... Sorry, I've lost interest. Maybe if you're a bit more polite next time I could be convinced to reconsider."
That whole attitude from start to finish reeks of privilege and willful ignorance. If you're wondering how this sort of blatant racism flourishes in 2014.... that's how.
If it's a valid point, what's the difference?
In the "jimmy rustling" thread, you said
And just look at your username and avatar.
this is the best post in the thread by far.You from the town cuz! He's from 408 if you have differences settle it!
how does my user name and avy have anything to do with this? your avy is a character from an 80s cartoon. but i digress.
If you're someone who derives unearned privilege from their skin color, who does not know what it's like to be on the other side of that equation, what is it, if NOT an assertion of this very privilege, to:
1) Tell those who are offended - without ANY understanding at all - that they're being "oversensitive."
2) To demand that those who are offended explain the historical context of the offense to you, even though you could easily research it yourself.
3) To insist that they coddle you in the process.
And, if the latter two conditions aren't met, you can actually summon the gall to say, "well, I was mildly interested but you weren't helpful and nice enough. I guess you don't really want to be treated with dignity and respect... Sorry, I've lost interest. Maybe if you're a bit more polite next time I could be convinced to reconsider."
That whole attitude from start to finish reeks of privilege and willful ignorance. If you're wondering how this sort of blatant racism flourishes in 2014.... that's how.
If it's a valid point, what's the difference?
In the "jimmy rustling" thread, you said
And just look at your username and avatar.
& valid point or not, the difference is that one is disrespectful and reeks of a superiority complex. that effects the tone of the discussion for the worse.
as far as unearned privilege, both blacks and whites have unearned privileges.
your long winded responses contain valuable information yes, but are riddled with condescending quips. i would assume that someone in your position would be less abrasive with your delivery, as it encourages more abrasive dialogue. its bad for everyone.
johnnyderp
What kind of unearned privileges that the black community has are we talking about here? I couldn't think of any.
johnnyderp
What kind of unearned privileges that the black community has are we talking about here? I couldn't think of any.
1. Having people be afraid to say any of the catch words in front of an African American.
- If I say, "I like cornbread." Whoops, you're racist.
2. Special treatment and pity from other people, including job providers.
3. Ability to put an African American in the oval office.
4. American troops to Sudan.
5. Money given to Haiti.
This a joke post right?