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Bernie sanders? Lol wut
Donald Trump is running for president
- Apr 15, 2004
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Bernie sander is like 75 years old.
wat young kids are messing wit bernie sanders
wat young kids are messing wit bernie sanders
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- Jul 7, 2005
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There it is.
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I'm voting for Bernie in the primary.
- Mar 10, 2013
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Maybe none from South Carolina, but the young generation of libs/progressives is very supportive of Bernie.
As it stands today, he'll get my vote.
- Jul 20, 2009
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Bernie not winning the winning vote. Bernie got no chance
He is too much of an idealist for his own good
Even though I agree with him on many issues, that is a red flag for me.
He is too much of an idealist for his own good
Even though I agree with him on many issues, that is a red flag for me.
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- Oct 10, 2013
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Trump is just proving that our system is flawed. Have enough money and entertain and you have the attention of the majority of the country. He's destroying the candidates who are taking this very seriously 
There's no politics needed, just give the people something to watch. He's essentially turned this into a run for class president
There's no politics needed, just give the people something to watch. He's essentially turned this into a run for class president
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Our system is flawed because Trump is up? Or the electorate is just doing what it usually does, focusing on the wrong things. The American electorate is incredibly ill informed, apathetic, and incredibly partisan. So don't fault Mr. Trump for giving the people what they want.
Come election day, 48% of people will even bother voting and the rest if you will sit at your keyboards and complain about how the other guy should have won and looking for pics of Hillary Duff.
And Obama is a horrible President.
Come election day, 48% of people will even bother voting and the rest if you will sit at your keyboards and complain about how the other guy should have won and looking for pics of Hillary Duff.
And Obama is a horrible President.
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We get it. You're voting for za Clinton even though you agree with Bernie's politics more than Clinton's.
- Oct 10, 2013
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Not once did I say trump himself is the problem
It's the system established. It's dated, it's inefficient, it's overly complicated (yes sad but true I'd venture to say most of America doesn't get how it works or thinks it's too hard to go out and even participate in), it's too media driven, ..... I can go on but you get the point
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It's not inefficient at all or complicated. You see the candidates, you hear what their vision for the country is, you pick one. If you sit back and just rely on pundits, polls, and soundbites then your doing it wrong and you only have yourself to blame for our "flawed" system.
Newsflash, it takes a bit of effort to keep abreast of the issues and to drive to your local polling place to cast your ballot. But hey, if that's too much for some people, then that's fine with me. I don't want to the ignorant to vote anyway.
Newsflash, it takes a bit of effort to keep abreast of the issues and to drive to your local polling place to cast your ballot. But hey, if that's too much for some people, then that's fine with me. I don't want to the ignorant to vote anyway.
- Oct 10, 2013
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Meh, you have your opinion, that's fine. We live in a world where we have better resources to submit votes now than going to your local ymca. The voting system is a joke. Everything comes down to a couple large states while the others vote for the same party no matter what. It being inefficient isn't even up for debate, it's a fact. We have more people voting for the next American idol than we do for president. All these citizens not even accounted for during the voting process. Yeah it's their fault but the numbers and the numbers and they'd rather keep the minority vote to a minimum
They'd rather keep everything the same so the outcome can be "uniform" to how it's been in the past.
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You know why a couple states decide elections? Because all the other ones are steady red or blue, it's not a conspiracy, it's the electorate in that state. They vote the same way consistently. Sucks but they have themselves to blame for not diversifying their vote.
How is the systems fault that people would rather vote for America Idol than the American President? No one is forcing them, there's no gun to their head making them choose which to pay attention to. They're just idiots and like I said, I'm glad they don't vote. You shouldn't have to be spoon fed and coddled go perform your civic duty.
Who wants to keep the minority vote to a minimum? Minorities have had a historically low turn out in this modern post Voting Rights Act era. And it's not because theit votes are being suppressed because they came out in droves for Obama in 08 and '12. But sat out all the midterms and state wide elections. So there's no conspiracy they are simply choosing not to show up. So once again the system isn't flawed just people's priorities.
How is the systems fault that people would rather vote for America Idol than the American President? No one is forcing them, there's no gun to their head making them choose which to pay attention to. They're just idiots and like I said, I'm glad they don't vote. You shouldn't have to be spoon fed and coddled go perform your civic duty.
Who wants to keep the minority vote to a minimum? Minorities have had a historically low turn out in this modern post Voting Rights Act era. And it's not because theit votes are being suppressed because they came out in droves for Obama in 08 and '12. But sat out all the midterms and state wide elections. So there's no conspiracy they are simply choosing not to show up. So once again the system isn't flawed just people's priorities.
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Haha! Man please. Like I said, if Biden don't run, Hillary diddy bopping all the way to the white house.
The Bernie Sanders = Ron Paul is a great comparison. Never even thought about that.
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at mentioning the support of young people like that means something. Young people are probably the most apathetic voting bloc in this country. They don't show up on election day. If they did Ron Paul would be President.
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Crying at "might not always be right" in regards to Trump. He's an abomination, and these Republican debate will reflect that. Never seen a clueless group like this since the 0-16 Lions.
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Nah they showed up, they just voted for Obama when they did. Haha!
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08 and '12 were anomalies as for as voting patterns go. But if you look at the midterms and state elections during those years young people did not show up.
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Someone please aware me how Bernie Sanders = Ron Paul
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Fringe candidates that will never win they're just on opposite sides of the spectrum. Paul is far right (Libertarian) Sanders is far left (Socialist)
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True. But they did show up on election night and didn't vote for Ron Paul.
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The Republicans are passing legislation to curb minority and the poor from voting because of 08 and 12.
This isn't a conspiracy, it's a fact! Tell me do the States below traditionally red or blue?
Alabama
Alabama
Voter suppression measure threatened or passed in 2014
A bill --HB 91 -- has been introduced that would impose a stringent timeline on third parties seeking to register people to vote. If passed, the bill would require that people who handle voter registration materials to submit those materials to an elections authority within 72 hours. Those who fail to do so may be charged with a Class C Misdemeanor and barred from participating in community organizing activities for one year. 72 hours is a very stringent deadline, and makes it much more difficult to hold voter registration drives.
Arkansas
Arkansas
Voter suppression measure passed or announced in 2013
A voter ID law passed in 2013, and was implemented in 2014.
Arizona
Arizona
Voter suppression measure passed or announced in 2013
The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2013 that states could not impose a documentary proof-of-citizenship requirement for those who register to vote using the federal form. Voters declare under penalty of perjury that they are citizens when they register using the federal form.
Arizona has implemented a dual registration system to prevent people who use the federal form from voting in state and local elections unless they show additional documentary proof of citizenship. Voter registration for thousands of Kansans is already being held in suspense" - essentially limbo - because of the new documentation requirements. Under the two-tiered system people who complied with all legal requirements for voter registration are denied the right to vote in state and local elections because of the registration form they used.
Florida
Florida
Voter suppression measure passed or announced in 2013
After the Supreme Court ruling in Shelby County v. Holder, Florida resumed plans to attempt to purge the voter rolls of suspected noncitizens.
Georgia
Georgia
Voter suppression measure threatened or passed in 2014
A bill -- HR 891 -- would reduce the early voting period from 21 days to six days in all municipal elections. However, the bill would leave the early voting period intact for state, county and federal elections, creating two different standards.
Iowa
Iowa
Voter suppression measure passed or announced in 2013
In 2013, Iowa's governor issued Executive Order 70 making it nearly impossible for people with past felony convictions to ever regain their voting rights. ACLU of Iowa is also fighting a voter suppression measure that purges voting rolls and restricts qualified voters from participating in elections.
Kansas
Kansas
Voter suppression measure passed or announced in 2013
The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2013 that states could not impose a documentary proof-of-citizenship requirement for those who register to vote using the federal form. Voters declare under penalty of perjury that they are citizens when they register using the federal form.
Kansas has implemented a dual registration system to prevent people who use the federal form from voting in state and local elections unless they show additional documentary proof of citizenship. Voter registration for thousands of Kansans is already being held in suspense" - essentially limbo - because of the new documentation requirements. Under the two-tiered system people who complied with all legal requirements for voter registration are denied the right to vote in state and local elections because of the registration form they used. The American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU of Kansas filed a lawsuit challenging Kansas' two-tiered voter registration system.
Missouri
Missouri
Voter suppression measure threatened or passed in 2014
The State Senate introduced a Constitutional amendment in 2014 that would require a restrictive photo ID bil.
Mississippi
Mississippi
Voter suppression measure threatened or passed in 2014
After the Supreme Court ruling in Shelby County v. Holder, the secretary of state said Mississippi will enact a strict photo ID law.
Montana
Montana
Voter suppression measure threatened or passed in 2014
There will be a measure of the November 14, 2014 ballot to repeal election-day registration.
North Carolina
North Carolina
Voter suppression measure passed or announced in 2013
In 2013, North Carolina passed a broad voter suppression bill that eliminates a week of early voting, end same-day registration, and prohibit out-of-precinct" voting and requires photo ID for voters. The ACLU is in court to block the law before the 2014 election.
Ohio
Ohio
Voter suppression measure threatened or passed in 2014
In February 2014, Ohio Gov. John Kasich signed into law several bills that will rewrite voting rules in the state, eliminating a number of early voting and registration opportunities as well as tightening identification standards.
Texas
Texas
Voter suppression measure passed or announced in 2013
In 2011, the Texas Legislature passed Senate Bill 14 (SB 14), a Voter ID law, which was blocked by the U.S. Department of Justice. Because of the Supreme Court's ruling in 2013, voters are now required to present an approved form of photo identification in order to vote in all Texas Elections. The Department of Justice filed a lawsuit against Texas over this voter ID law.
Virginia
Virginia
Voter suppression measure passed or announced in 2013
In 2013 the Governor signed a photo ID bill that will go into effect in 2014.
Wisconsin
Wisconsin
Voter suppression measure threatened or passed in 2014
In March 2014, Gov. Scott Walker signed a bill that eliminates absentee voting on weekends ahead of elections.
Alabama
Voter suppression measure threatened or passed in 2014
A bill --HB 91 -- has been introduced that would impose a stringent timeline on third parties seeking to register people to vote. If passed, the bill would require that people who handle voter registration materials to submit those materials to an elections authority within 72 hours. Those who fail to do so may be charged with a Class C Misdemeanor and barred from participating in community organizing activities for one year. 72 hours is a very stringent deadline, and makes it much more difficult to hold voter registration drives.
Arkansas
Arkansas
Voter suppression measure passed or announced in 2013
A voter ID law passed in 2013, and was implemented in 2014.
Arizona
Arizona
Voter suppression measure passed or announced in 2013
The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2013 that states could not impose a documentary proof-of-citizenship requirement for those who register to vote using the federal form. Voters declare under penalty of perjury that they are citizens when they register using the federal form.
Arizona has implemented a dual registration system to prevent people who use the federal form from voting in state and local elections unless they show additional documentary proof of citizenship. Voter registration for thousands of Kansans is already being held in suspense" - essentially limbo - because of the new documentation requirements. Under the two-tiered system people who complied with all legal requirements for voter registration are denied the right to vote in state and local elections because of the registration form they used.
Florida
Florida
Voter suppression measure passed or announced in 2013
After the Supreme Court ruling in Shelby County v. Holder, Florida resumed plans to attempt to purge the voter rolls of suspected noncitizens.
Georgia
Georgia
Voter suppression measure threatened or passed in 2014
A bill -- HR 891 -- would reduce the early voting period from 21 days to six days in all municipal elections. However, the bill would leave the early voting period intact for state, county and federal elections, creating two different standards.
Iowa
Iowa
Voter suppression measure passed or announced in 2013
In 2013, Iowa's governor issued Executive Order 70 making it nearly impossible for people with past felony convictions to ever regain their voting rights. ACLU of Iowa is also fighting a voter suppression measure that purges voting rolls and restricts qualified voters from participating in elections.
Kansas
Kansas
Voter suppression measure passed or announced in 2013
The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2013 that states could not impose a documentary proof-of-citizenship requirement for those who register to vote using the federal form. Voters declare under penalty of perjury that they are citizens when they register using the federal form.
Kansas has implemented a dual registration system to prevent people who use the federal form from voting in state and local elections unless they show additional documentary proof of citizenship. Voter registration for thousands of Kansans is already being held in suspense" - essentially limbo - because of the new documentation requirements. Under the two-tiered system people who complied with all legal requirements for voter registration are denied the right to vote in state and local elections because of the registration form they used. The American Civil Liberties Union and the ACLU of Kansas filed a lawsuit challenging Kansas' two-tiered voter registration system.
Missouri
Missouri
Voter suppression measure threatened or passed in 2014
The State Senate introduced a Constitutional amendment in 2014 that would require a restrictive photo ID bil.
Mississippi
Mississippi
Voter suppression measure threatened or passed in 2014
After the Supreme Court ruling in Shelby County v. Holder, the secretary of state said Mississippi will enact a strict photo ID law.
Montana
Montana
Voter suppression measure threatened or passed in 2014
There will be a measure of the November 14, 2014 ballot to repeal election-day registration.
North Carolina
North Carolina
Voter suppression measure passed or announced in 2013
In 2013, North Carolina passed a broad voter suppression bill that eliminates a week of early voting, end same-day registration, and prohibit out-of-precinct" voting and requires photo ID for voters. The ACLU is in court to block the law before the 2014 election.
Ohio
Ohio
Voter suppression measure threatened or passed in 2014
In February 2014, Ohio Gov. John Kasich signed into law several bills that will rewrite voting rules in the state, eliminating a number of early voting and registration opportunities as well as tightening identification standards.
Texas
Texas
Voter suppression measure passed or announced in 2013
In 2011, the Texas Legislature passed Senate Bill 14 (SB 14), a Voter ID law, which was blocked by the U.S. Department of Justice. Because of the Supreme Court's ruling in 2013, voters are now required to present an approved form of photo identification in order to vote in all Texas Elections. The Department of Justice filed a lawsuit against Texas over this voter ID law.
Virginia
Virginia
Voter suppression measure passed or announced in 2013
In 2013 the Governor signed a photo ID bill that will go into effect in 2014.
Wisconsin
Wisconsin
Voter suppression measure threatened or passed in 2014
In March 2014, Gov. Scott Walker signed a bill that eliminates absentee voting on weekends ahead of elections.
https://www.aclu.org/map/battle-protect-ballot-voter-suppression-measures-passed-2013
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Hmm the shortening of the early voting bills does seem odd to me. I'll have to research what the stated benefit of that is. But the others seem pretty straight up to me. I don't see how requiring a valid photo government issued ID is suppressing the minority vote. If anything it targets illegal immigrants who shouldn't be voting anyway.
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Funny in 2008 and 2012, more people show up and one side does better
2010 ans 2104, folk stay at home and another side does better
So if more people voted all the time, I wonder what would happen. Hmmmmm
-The system does need reform, I don't agree with the "More people vote for American Idol that President argument", I fine it kinda short sighted. But America needs election and campaign reform badly.
Undergoing gerrymandering and making voting a opt out system instead would do nothing but good.
