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You're screwing the lakers in that
and brooklyn wins like crazy

How am I screwing the Lakers dude?

You guys get a scrappy rebounding big who plays his role, Kris could start alongside Pau. Tyreke Evans a slashing athletic scorer and Avery Bradley whose a good outside shooter and terrific defender. Lakers automatically have a better bench, better defense, better shooting, more younger, and more athletic. Exactly what the Lakers need. It's fair to me man.

Brooklyn gets Dwight, and an under-achieving Jason Terry whose having a bad season. Not to mention Garcia is trash.

 

[denni5themenace]

what the hell is going on in here

 

[ill 949]

I got it!!!

Although the Lakers would NEVER do it. They wouldn't want that type of drama and the Clippers potentially being much better than they are. Jordan and Bledsoe would be great in the lineup tho.

The sad thing is..if this really happened, you could just feel the disappointment from all the incoming Clippers including Lamar while Dwight would feel like he died and went to heaven. The roles really done changed

 

[noblekane]

im sorry but a team with this much talent should not be struggling like that.

you can blame it on kobe shooting too much, dwight and pau being soft. nash being old, injuries.

But it will ALWAYS come down to the coach. There is no excuse that this team shouldnt be atleast a 7 or 8th seed with the talent.

these idiots jim and jerry buss need to swallow that pride and another 16 million and fire this bum antoni...


smh from mike brown to mike antoni to whos next? don nelson??

might aswell.

 

[goldmember]

Blow this team up. including Jim buss

 

[thadangerousmind]

I'm disgusted with this team that I didn't even bother watching the game. I watched tennis instead.

 

[just blazed]

Forget Kobe vs. Dwight, the Lakers will pay for doubling down on failed D'Antoni-Nash reunion
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The nosedive continues for the Lakers, who are three games from rock bottom in the West. (EFE)

MEMPHIS, Tenn. – Beyond the personal animus and the uncertainty over his willingness to endure the job's grind, the biggest issue Lakers vice president Jim Buss had with choosing Phil Jackson over Mike D'Antoni as head coach centered on the consequences for Steve Nash. With no use for this point guard in the triangle offense, Buss's fear was that Jackson would've pushed to move Nash out, sources said.

Buss passed on the Lakers' glorious championship legacy to attach his franchise to the desert mirage of D'Antoni and Nash, a reunion tour born of a one-dimensional, gimmick offense and a point guard pushing 39 years old.

"The way this turns out," one league source connected to the hiring process said, "you've chosen not only Steve Nash over [Pau] Gasol, but maybe over Gasol and Dwight [Howard]." Mike D'Antoni's Lakers haven't won a road game since Dec. 22 vs. Golden State. (EFE)

These Lakers are missing the athleticism and perimeter quickness to contend for a championship. This 106-93 loss to the Memphis Grizzlies on Wednesday at FedEx Forum was one more installment in a debacle of a season that the mere presence of D'Antoni worsens every day.

The Lakers are a flat-lined, free-falling folly, an embarrassment of excess, a mangle of mismatched and non-connective parts. Whatever confrontational message Kobe Bryant delivered to Howard in a team meeting reported by the Los Angeles Times on Wednesday morning, make no mistake: The Bryant-Howard dynamic is the most minimal of the Lakers' issues.

[Related: Dwight Howard suffers another shoulder injury]

Under Jackson, the Lakers would've played through Gasol, Howard and Bryant in the post, would've dictated terms through the strengths of the franchise's Hall of Fame players. Under Jackson, the Lakers would've had a leader of men to gather them out of this rubble.

Gasol could go in a trade come mid-February, and Howard – if faced with a Lakers future that includes D'Antoni – could leave the Lakers come July in free agency.

Buss doubled down on the wrong coach, and wrong player. D'Antoni and Nash are busts, unable to bring the systematic and connective threads to a lineup that they were charged to regenerate. As far back out of the playoffs as these Lakers have dropped, here's the most disturbing truth: Los Angeles is closer to the drop-dead bottom of the Western Conference with Phoenix and New Orleans – three games – than they are climbing four games to reach the eighth spot in the Western Conference playoffs.

The Lakers haven't won a game outside of Staples Center in a month. These Lakers resemble D'Antoni in every way: Mumbling, soft and shrouded in marketed mythology.

"We've got an All-Star team," D'Antoni said. "Have you ever watched an All-Star Game? It's God-awful because everybody gets the ball, they go one-on-one and then they play no defense. That's our team."

D'Antoni is far stronger with the glib quotes than he is substantive solutions.

Howard declared himself "immature" for marching around the locker room after a loss to the Chicago Bulls, and insisting that reporters and hangers-on study the stat sheet to understand his frustration. Bryant did challenge him in a team meeting on Wednesday morning, but he's done that often this season. Howard needs Bryant to play that part, because D'Antoni has forever been part-passive aggressive and fully non-confrontational.

A shoulder injury knocked Dwight Howard out of Wednesday's game in Memphis. (CBS Sports Network)Howard is 26 years old, fresh off back surgery and struggling with a torn labrum that resurfaced Wednesday against the Grizzlies. Howard appeared to be in significant pain, couldn't make a shot, nor properly pursue rebounds. The Lakers will have him examined on Thursday in Los Angeles, but one source insisted that it didn't appear to be a significant injury.

This has rapidly turned into a lost season for Howard, but it would be foolish to declare his Lakers career a lost cause. For those who've called the Lakers on Howard's availability – the Dallas Mavericks and the Atlanta Hawks – the message has been unmistakable: Howard isn't available, nor will that change before the February deadline.

[Related: Hornets to make name change to Pelicans official]

Bryant won't' chase Howard out of here, but multiple sources tell Yahoo! Sports that the only issue that would give Howard pause on re-signing with the Lakers would be D'Antoni. In the end, D'Antoni is a coach who fundamentally doesn't believe in post play, who sees franchise centers as intrusive cloggers of the lane.

As New York Knicks coach, D'Antoni issued a clear stance in organizational discussions on a possible pursuit of Howard: He wasn't a fan. He told Knicks front-office staff stories about how the elders of USA Basketball preferred Tyson Chandler to Howard, and that the Knicks would be wise to adopt that thinking, a source with knowledge of the conversations told Yahoo! Sports.

The best thing to ever happen to Howard's career was Stan Van Gundy coming into his life in Orlando. He pushed him, tested him and brought out the best in Howard. In Los Angeles, Bryant plays the part now. They were never destined to have a close relationship. Bryant can't tolerate the tone that Howard sets, the clowning on the floor, the grabbing of the microphone on team charter flights to do impressions, the locker room revelry.

Nevertheless, these Lakers are doomed without Howard dominating on defense. Hours before telling D'Antoni to get him out of Wednesday night's loss with a recurrence of the labrum injury that cost him three games earlier this month, Howard had left that morning team meeting apologetic and promising to redirect his frustrations on offense into a disposition of defensive dominance.

The Lakers understand that Los Angeles gives everything Howard wants to be a global star, gives him the guaranteed of a five-year, $100 million extension this summer. They don't believe he'll walk, and yet as one source tied to the Lakers and Howard says: "Even if they're right, and Dwight stays, do you want Dwight unhappy and feeling uninvolved with D'Antoni?"

[Related: George Karl calls out JaVale McGee]

For the Lakers to fire D'Antoni with three years left on his new contract – just after they fired Mike Brown with three years left – would leave them buried with $25 million in coaching payouts. And then, who do you get? Forget Jackson. That can't happen now. Funny, but everyone on the Lakers knows that the best week this team played happened to be under Bernie Bickerstaff, who simplified the offense, played traditional sets and had the Lakers hustling on defense in winning four of five games in November.

Nevertheless, D'Antoni has marginalized Gasol, leaving him livid and privately expecting to be traded before the February deadline for an athletic forward who fits his coaching designs. Buss believed that Nash had been neutralized in the Princeton offense, sources say, and that he would never flourish with the changes – blessed by the organization over the summer, by the way – that Brown implemented for the season.

Two years ago, Buss chose Mike Brown over Kupchak's choice, Rick Adelman. This time, it was the desert myth of D'Antoni and Nash, a reunion that feels like it should be touring state fairs with REO Speedwagon.

In so many ways, Nash made D'Antoni, but he can't bail him out anymore. The Lakers are burying themselves, deeper and deeper, and the coach doesn't have the stomach, nor the brass, to elevate them out of the mess. His system is flawed for this franchise, and beyond that, he brings nothing to a basketball team.

Perhaps Nash can still make a difference on these Lakers, but the franchise's future never should've been thrust on hiring a coach to protect his interests. No one wants to hear this now, but it's true: Beyond Kobe Bryant's era, the future of these Lakers has to be Dwight Howard. He hasn't been himself this season and maybe needs a full summer of recovery for that back and shoulder, but the Lakers have no choice.

They need Howard to be dominant again, need him flanked with Gasol on the frontline. Only this is the wrong coach, running the wrong system to make the most of that partnership.

Somehow, the Los Angeles Lakers doubled down on the washed-up, banner-less legacy of the Phoenix Suns, and yet somehow they still wonder how everything could've unraveled this way. Mike D'Antoni was never the return of Showtime, but merely a mirage that came out of the desert and ultimately will blow out of Los Angeles like tumbleweed.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--f...-reunion-tour-of-d-antoni-nash-094336411.html
well damn... how is dantoni gonna react with all the trash talking about him

 

[noblekane]

I'm disgusted with this team that I didn't even bother watching the game. I watched tennis instead.

woah woah woah now maybe if it were the agassi, chang, sampras era but... eh who im kidding at this time i rather watch wnba instead

 

[geoff2005]

LOL its time to cut Dantoni

 

[scotthallwithapick]

This place is a warzone

 

[darthdeezy]

The Lakers wont make a trade before the trade deadline.
Those scenarios we been comin up with are faraway dreams.
I really believed the Lakers could have won last night. After their player meeting.

They are 4 games behind the 8 seed.
Possible? Yes. Probable? Hell no.

This team is a waste of talent.
We should have 25 losses in early April. Not early February.
Even if we do make the playoffs, we are def not a Finals bound team.
Anything less than a championship for this franchise is failure.

My Laker hater friends and coworkers are loving every second of it.
Losing? I can handle.
Gloating by people who dont even care about bball or let alone dont even have their own team makes me wanna shoot someone.
Real talk. Its that serious.

I really dont believe this team can win any more than 10 more games till April.
I really dont believe Kobe is this "Laker legend" we used to make him out to be.
Jordan, Magic, heck even Bron would be at a better position with this line up at this point of the season.
Kobe is in the same class as Tmac, Vince Carter, Ray Allen, Iverson and all the other has beens.
He just lucky to have been injury free and playing for the purple and gold.
Great player? NO. Good player? Yes.
Bron>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kobe

After the Mavericks swept us 2 years ago, my cousin and I felt like the 90's were coming back for us again.
Because no one stays on top forever.
Then we got D12 and Nash. And things looked up.
But naw, I would take those 90's teams over this garbage 10 times out of 10.
At least they brought it with heart every night.

The Jazz and Thunder are gonna cement our embarrassing season into the ground in the next couple of days.
Fact.

 

[cash money 1999]

doubt we pull off any blockbuster trades by the deadline

 

[gllahone84]

the lakers need to go 25-16 just to finish 41-41

and that def won't cut it for a playoff position.

this was the time for lakers to move up, it's not like all the teams were balling out, houston had a 7 game losing streak, portland had a 6 game losing streak....

and dwight's injured... andrew bynum gonna be best center in the league by the end of this season.

D'Antoni... why couldn't we just beat you in 06? so we'd never see your 4 second offense again..

can't believe kobe wore number 8 for you..

ill

But Dwight man...

New season right?

He's certified....

 

[lynchpin33]

When Kobe FINALLY blows up it is going to be epic and this thread is going to get crazier. When do you guys think that is going to be? I am placing my bet on when they are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs....

 

[duba169]

Dantoni somehow escaped all criticism in the toughest media center in the world. Glad to see LA hammering this schmuck face

 

[gllahone84]

So Dwight said Kobe didn't say anything to him in the meeting...

 

[5am6oody72]

God what a mess. We are the new Knicks it seems, except we have more talent to go with the massive salaries and yet we still suck.

I didn't know exactly how Dantoni would fare, but I admit I would be disappointed in him even if we were a few games over. 500, so to be as bad as we are...I didn't see this coming at all.

 

[menacin methods]

Is this real life? What the hell man.

Solid trade for all teams

 

[victor page]

Nash would have been better off going to New York or Toronto

 

[pr0phecy718]

Nash would have been better off going to New York or Toronto

funny how this guy affected all three teams

 

[thegoldenchild]

The Lakers wont make a trade before the trade deadline.
Those scenarios we been comin up with are faraway dreams.
I really believed the Lakers could have won last night. After their player meeting.

They are 4 games behind the 8 seed.
Possible? Yes. Probable? Hell no.

This team is a waste of talent.
We should have 25 losses in early April. Not early February.
Even if we do make the playoffs, we are def not a Finals bound team.
Anything less than a championship for this franchise is failure.

My Laker hater friends and coworkers are loving every second of it.
Losing? I can handle.
Gloating by people who dont even care about bball or let alone dont even have their own team makes me wanna shoot someone.
Real talk. Its that serious.

I really dont believe this team can win any more than 10 more games till April.
I really dont believe Kobe is this "Laker legend" we used to make him out to be.
Jordan, Magic, heck even Bron would be at a better position with this line up at this point of the season.
Kobe is in the same class as Tmac, Vince Carter, Ray Allen, Iverson and all the other has beens.
He just lucky to have been injury free and playing for the purple and gold.
Great player? NO. Good player? Yes.
Bron>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kobe

After the Mavericks swept us 2 years ago, my cousin and I felt like the 90's were coming back for us again.
Because no one stays on top forever.
Then we got D12 and Nash. And things looked up.
But naw, I would take those 90's teams over this garbage 10 times out of 10.
At least they brought it with heart every night.

The Jazz and Thunder are gonna cement our embarrassing season into the ground in the next couple of days.
Fact.

So according to you kobe is not a legend yet you mention lebron in the same breath as jordan and magic.. okay good job man.. if you just say you're a hater then everyone can just discard all the bs you have to say

 

[gridebounca11]

Thats just blashpemous to talk bout kobe like that. Straight up saltyness.

 

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funny how this guy affected all three teams

Nash would not have worked out in NY either, plus the Suns wanted Shump. No way the Knicks were trading Shump for a 39 year old who needs the ball at all times but play no defense. Good Call.

 

[CP1708]

It was pretty obvious Jim thought D'Antoni and Nash would be ideal.

Whereas Phil would have been ideal for Dwight, with Kobe in as well.

We chose the 39 year old PG?


I ain't even that mad yet at Nash, it's not his fault, but trading for him has turned out even worse than anyone could have ever imagined. I still remember finding out about the trade and everyone on Twitter blowing my phone up.

*sigh*

 

[victor page]

I don't think Nash is the problem. I never thought it was a good fit from day one simply because the personnel didn't mesh well with his game. Nash needs to be surrounded by shooters and bigs who can run the floor. Placing him with a ballstopping gunner, a psycho who thinks he's a shooter now, and two lumbering bigs was never an ideal situation.

You could put Steve Nash back on the Suns right now and he'd probably give you 15 and 11 in his sleep.