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youre not forced to live in this country ...and 250k is more then enough to move outOriginally Posted by HOVKid
I'm already being penalized enough with all these mortgage defaults. I pay my mortgage. Where my handout?
You got dudes living in houses that can't pay the mortgage so my freaking money has to go to help them? Lick my you know what. Let them get studio apartments and go month to month.
I pay my freaking mortgage like an idiot every month and no-one gives me %%$@. I want so benefits for all the money I give to taxes. How about Obama gets a bill passed where the govt gives you a free two months of mortgage or something if you are in good standing and are HELPFUL to the economy, instea dof a drain on it.
I HATE this tax the rich crap. Yeah, tax the rich....those that make over $1m a year are rich. I got two kids, a house, college to save for...leave me alone and let me live. My %%$ is barely getting by (saving for my kids' college and all else I have to do to be a responsible person) and I make well over $250k a year.
Suck my *@@!!!!!!
Originally Posted by letsgetit22
Originally Posted by UTVOL23
To quote Winston Churchill- “If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain.
And I shouldnt be forced to give half of my income to the govt or should I?Originally Posted by Black Jesus
youre not forced to live in this country ...and 250k is more then enough to move outOriginally Posted by HOVKid
I'm already being penalized enough with all these mortgage defaults. I pay my mortgage. Where my handout?
You got dudes living in houses that can't pay the mortgage so my freaking money has to go to help them? Lick my you know what. Let them get studio apartments and go month to month.
I pay my freaking mortgage like an idiot every month and no-one gives me %%$@. I want so benefits for all the money I give to taxes. How about Obama gets a bill passed where the govt gives you a free two months of mortgage or something if you are in good standing and are HELPFUL to the economy, instea dof a drain on it.
I HATE this tax the rich crap. Yeah, tax the rich....those that make over $1m a year are rich. I got two kids, a house, college to save for...leave me alone and let me live. My %%$ is barely getting by (saving for my kids' college and all else I have to do to be a responsible person) and I make well over $250k a year.
Suck my *@@!!!!!!
Originally Posted by AirUpHere23
Again...I reiterate...when 9-11 occurred everyone believed in American patriotism and the strength and unity of our nation....as soon as a health care reform plan gets mentioned to help American citizens.....those ideals are nowhere to be found...ironic isn't it?
Originally Posted by HOVKid
Number 1: $250k a year is not rich homie. $250k a year is middle class.
if someone made 500k how much more in taxes do they have to pay because of this bill? serious question....Originally Posted by UTVOL23
And I shouldnt be forced to give half of my income to the govt or should I?Originally Posted by Black Jesus
youre not forced to live in this country ...and 250k is more then enough to move outOriginally Posted by HOVKid
I'm already being penalized enough with all these mortgage defaults. I pay my mortgage. Where my handout?
You got dudes living in houses that can't pay the mortgage so my freaking money has to go to help them? Lick my you know what. Let them get studio apartments and go month to month.
I pay my freaking mortgage like an idiot every month and no-one gives me %%$@. I want so benefits for all the money I give to taxes. How about Obama gets a bill passed where the govt gives you a free two months of mortgage or something if you are in good standing and are HELPFUL to the economy, instea dof a drain on it.
I HATE this tax the rich crap. Yeah, tax the rich....those that make over $1m a year are rich. I got two kids, a house, college to save for...leave me alone and let me live. My %%$ is barely getting by (saving for my kids' college and all else I have to do to be a responsible person) and I make well over $250k a year.
Suck my *@@!!!!!!
Originally Posted by UTVOL23
Originally Posted by letsgetit22
Originally Posted by UTVOL23
To quote Winston Churchill- “If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain.
Originally Posted by Burns1923
Originally Posted by AirUpHere23
Again...I reiterate...when 9-11 occurred everyone believed in American patriotism and the strength and unity of our nation....as soon as a health care reform plan gets mentioned to help American citizens.....those ideals are nowhere to be found...ironic isn't it?
Your comparison is stupid.
9/11 was a terrorist attack. Of course the country is going to be united.
The health care bill is a government mandate that people purchase a good, with no respect to freedom or choice.
But make no mistake - both 9/11 and this health care bill are attacks on this country with the intent to destroy it.
News flash to all: It is not the federal government's job to mandate that people "help" other people.
Yep.Originally Posted by AirUpHere23
Originally Posted by Burns1923
Originally Posted by AirUpHere23
Again...I reiterate...when 9-11 occurred everyone believed in American patriotism and the strength and unity of our nation....as soon as a health care reform plan gets mentioned to help American citizens.....those ideals are nowhere to be found...ironic isn't it?
Your comparison is stupid.
9/11 was a terrorist attack. Of course the country is going to be united.
The health care bill is a government mandate that people purchase a good, with no respect to freedom or choice.
But make no mistake - both 9/11 and this health care bill are attacks on this country with the intent to destroy it.
News flash to all: It is not the federal government's job to mandate that people "help" other people.
Or maybe you failed to comprehend the analogy I was indicating...
My point is and was..that Americans preach unity, strength, and compassion for our "fellow man" in tragic situations like 9-11...but where are the same ideals when the hard working guy down the street who works 12 hours a day with a family..but can't afford health insurance for him or his family? The answer is there is no unity.....only when it's convenient.
Originally Posted by SdotCAR619
People in this thread talk about how not everyone can do it, I feel like anyone can. You look at the people who do make it big from "ghettos" or low-income communities and these are the people who focus on school, don't go out to parties and just give school 110%, so don't say not everyone can do it. Anyone can do anything with hard work.
Those single mothers work hard, yeah, but you can also say they had the choice to have a kid. I know it sounds ignorant, but its the truth. I applaud those women who work hard to try to give their children opportunities they weren't able to have.
Taxing the rich more for the "better" of America? The hell, these guys worked hard to better their own lives! They needa just set a certain percent that each American gets deducted from their checks!
Originally Posted by letsgetit22
You just described the everyday life of a single mother who works 2 jobs. Although she makes no where close to 250k a year and probably will never make that much. Hell not even 50k a year. I commend you and every other person who has worked that hard to get where they're at, but don't act like successful people are the only ones who works hard. You are much more successful ( money wise) than a huge portion of this country... i am sure that you are no longer struggling even with the high taxes you pay. Once again I commend you on your success and hard work to get where you are.Originally Posted by HOVKid
Let's see how you dorks feel the day you work your +%$ off and steal bread from the deli that is downstairs from you that comes at 3am and sits in your building doorway until the guy comes to open the deli (just so you can freaking eat because all of your money is going to tuition), then work 18 hour days for 8 years to get where you are. Also let's remember that you dug for change in your couch so you could get on the subway to go on job interviews. Then also remember that you are paying back apprix $150k in loans necessary to attend law school.
Originally Posted by Burns1923
The health care bill is a government mandate that people purchase a good, with no respect to freedom or choice.
But make no mistake - both 9/11 and this health care bill are attacks on this country with the intent to destroy it.
News flash to all: It is not the federal government's job to mandate that people "help" other people.
Originally Posted by AirUpHere23
Originally Posted by Burns1923
Originally Posted by AirUpHere23
Again...I reiterate...when 9-11 occurred everyone believed in American patriotism and the strength and unity of our nation....as soon as a health care reform plan gets mentioned to help American citizens.....those ideals are nowhere to be found...ironic isn't it?
Your comparison is stupid.
9/11 was a terrorist attack. Of course the country is going to be united.
The health care bill is a government mandate that people purchase a good, with no respect to freedom or choice.
But make no mistake - both 9/11 and this health care bill are attacks on this country with the intent to destroy it.
News flash to all: It is not the federal government's job to mandate that people "help" other people.
Or maybe you failed to comprehend the analogy I was indicating...
My point is and was..that Americans preach unity, strength, and compassion for our "fellow man" in tragic situations like 9-11...but where are the same ideals when the hard working guy down the street who works 12 hours a day with a family..but can't afford health insurance for him or his family? The answer is there is no unity.....only when it's convenient.
Originally Posted by Burns1923
But make no mistake - both 9/11 and this health care bill are attacks on this country with the intent to destroy it.
But make no mistake - both 9/11 and this health care bill are attacks on this country with the intent to destroy it.
LOL.
Originally Posted by cguy610
Originally Posted by Burns1923
But make no mistake - both 9/11 and this health care bill are attacks on this country with the intent to destroy it.This dude is bonkers.
The Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act is a federal law of the United States, enacted in 2003. It produced the largest overhaul of Medicare in the public health program's 38-year history. The MMA was signed by President George W. Bush on December 8, 2003, after passing in Congress by a close margin.
Not firing shots at you, but you should read up on the constitution.Originally Posted by CParkFresh
Originally Posted by Burns1923
The health care bill is a government mandate that people purchase a good, with no respect to freedom or choice.
But make no mistake - both 9/11 and this health care bill are attacks on this country with the intent to destroy it.
News flash to all: It is not the federal government's job to mandate that people "help" other people.
On a Federal level... Please explain to me how our social security and Medicare work... Those get taken out of every one of my checks even though I do not reap the benefits.
On a state level... Many state governments MANDATE that a driver maintains car insurance.
On a local level... Municipalities MANDATE that a property owner pay taxes on their personal property so the municipality may provide goods and services to other people in the municipality. For example my tax dollars pay for the schools in my district. Even though I have no children.
It amazes me how people talk about what is and is not AMERICAN and ignore reality. IMHO, it is very sad that a basic right to adequate healthcare has been politicized to the point where people have convinced themselves that providing healthcare to all American citizens is an attack on America.
Originally Posted by Diego
Originally Posted by SdotCAR619
People in this thread talk about how not everyone can do it, I feel like anyone can. You look at the people who do make it big from "ghettos" or low-income communities and these are the people who focus on school, don't go out to parties and just give school 110%, so don't say not everyone can do it. Anyone can do anything with hard work.
Those single mothers work hard, yeah, but you can also say they had the choice to have a kid. I know it sounds ignorant, but its the truth. I applaud those women who work hard to try to give their children opportunities they weren't able to have.
Taxing the rich more for the "better" of America? The hell, these guys worked hard to better their own lives! They needa just set a certain percent that each American gets deducted from their checks!
People with power (money) like to talk out the $%%.
Your false "If I could do it so can you" speech does not amuse me.
They know damn well that in order for them to stay with the power it is to their benefit that not everyone does "it". Rich people need to have a lower class in this country in order to keep the power. As more and more people join their salary bracket, their power gets divided even further.
Remember when the the drop out rates in the hood were high as hell, how far a high school diploma could get you?
Now that everyone is graduating high school and college education is stressed, suddenly high school diplomas mean nothing. As more and more people graduate college, those college degrees are treated like a high school diploma.
These false motivational speeches from these people with money mean absolutely nothing to me cause theyre the first ones crying when they have to help someone other than themselves.