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[mister friendly]

Phil isnt overrated but at same time the level of talent he's coached is far superior to Pop

Nobody would take Duncan, Robinson, Parker and Manu over Jordan, Kobe, Shaq, Pippen, Gasol, Rodman, Malone and Payton

I think Phil has to be top because of the stats but if the casts were switched I dont think Phil would stay be tops

Are you for real listing Rodman, Malone and Payton?

Then I guess I should use Bruce Bowen, Steve Smith, Tracy McGrady for Popovich, yes?

Rodman led the NBA all his years with the Bulls and was 1st team NBA All-Defensive team once

Malone and Payton started for a team that went to the NBA Finals, in fact Laker fans use the excuse that Malone got injured as part of the reason why they lost

Bowen isn't a Hall of Famer type player and McGrady played like one minute for the Spurs

 

[CP1708]

My definition of overrated doesn't mean someone still can't be great. For the longest time now it seems 99% of everyone said Phil was the best and seemed to be certain about it. I personally have had pop at #1 for some time given how he recruited and developed the situation he's currently in. So yeah I think Phil has been overrated. Doesnt mean he's still not #2. I think its been the extreme confidence people have had that hes #1 that is what makes him overrated more than anything.

Ok, so then let me ask you, does it worry you that Pop lost to Phil 4 out of 5 times?

Or that Pop has had the same "core" of 3 HOFers from 03 to 14, yet never once defended his title?

Whereas Phil has 3 peated 3 times, and repeated another time?

Or that Phil, while coaching great players to be sure, coached 4 different "cores" for those 11 titles, and 13 Finals appearances? And as we stated with Pop, he coached the same 3 HOFers for an 11 year stretch.

Phil never had more than 5 years straight with the same guys.

Or as I said earlier, Pop made 4 of his 6 Finals when Phil wasn't coaching, while Phil went to 7 Finals in 10 years in the same conference as Pop.


I assume, none of that matters to you, Pop is still #1, right? Seems kinda shaky for you, don't it?

 

[shoelyesses]

Robert Horry won 7 chips with 3 teams and at every stage of his career at that

All the while hitting huge shots when it mattered most

thats hall of fame to me

i just cant fathom horry in the hof when you got players like i mentioned before.... hell mark jackson isnt in, tim hardaway isnt even in, mourning isnt in.... cant see how horry would get in over the likes of these guys.

 

[CP1708]

SHUT THE **** UP ABOUT PHIL

Why?

 

[hometownhero]

Phil isnt overrated but at same time the level of talent he's coached is far superior to Pop

Nobody would take Duncan, Robinson, Parker and Manu over Jordan, Kobe, Shaq, Pippen, Gasol, Rodman, Malone and Payton

I think Phil has to be top because of the stats but if the casts were switched I dont think Phil would stay be tops

Leave out the last 2, maybe the last 4. they're not in the same class

 

[hometownhero]

 

why the hell would horry be in the hof?

champion one of the best clutch shooters i've ever seen

hall of fame shouldn't be all about numbers in my opinion

Robert Horry had a hall of fame career dude has been a part of history

ron artest has been a part of history. dude averaged like 10 points a game for his career.

 

[captainsneakerhead23]

Phil is competing for a title within 3 years if Melo stays. If he doesn't, he's still doing work. ECF run is in there in 3. He's got a good of chance in NY as Chicago. I think arose stays healthy too, still equal chances in NY

Once again, Phil isn't coaching the Knicks. We have no clue what he will do in the front office nor do we have any clue how star players will respond to Fisher. Lets give it a year before we start throwing statements out like that.

 

[CP1708]

What does Collison give the Kings that Thomas doesn't? Isn't Thomas much younger than Collison?

 

[gregory house]

He doesn't shoot the ball 20x a game and is a little taller

 

[mister friendly]

Horry will not get into the Hall of Fame

If he does you have to let in Michael Cooper, Harper, Kerr, Fisher and like 3 Celtics players from the 1960s

 

[captainsneakerhead23]

What does Collison give the Kings that Thomas doesn't? Isn't Thomas much younger than Collison?

Cheaper from what it sounds like. Also allows them to use Thomas in a sign and trade deal.

 

[shoelyesses]

Cheaper from what it sounds like. Also allows them to use Thomas in a sign and trade deal.

exactly what i was thinking with the move... it was just a move to make a move.

 

[suberzat1]

He doesn't shoot the ball 20x a game and is a little taller

x2

 

[hometownhero]

 

I get headaches when people bring up Robert Horry

 

7 points, 4.8 rebounds and 2 assists = "hall of fame career"

Never change, NT.

It may sound like a joke, but I do believe both Horry AND Derek Fisher get in eventually

Stuff like this is why I don't know when guys are being serious on NT or not. Being part of a great team doesn't get you in the Hall of Fame unless you're Christina Laettner. They should start a Hall of Recognition or something, cause if these guys go in the Hall there is a real problem. And I'm a Lakers fan so I really appreciate these dudes, but HOF; not even close.

 

[lovehateself]

Collison-Stauskas-Gay-JSmoove-Cousins........I like it.

#freedmc

 
exactly what i was thinking with the move... it was just a move to make a move.

see above

 

[offset pow clow]

Horry will not get into the Hall of Fame

If he does you have to let in Michael Cooper, Harper, Kerr, Fisher and like 3 Celtics players from the 1960s

Horry got 7 tho, isnt it all about rings

 

[julius wrek]

Julius F. Wrek

 

[shoelyesses]

i have no illwill or bad blood with sactown (actually liked the place visiting it a few times) but i think dmc would flourish, and could be a big time household name if he were to play for another team....

 

[buc em]

Why?

Because all that **** is in the past and all you dudes are just gonna argue back and forth about opinions you formed years ago.

 

[kal-el-8]

 

My definition of overrated doesn't mean someone still can't be great. For the longest time now it seems 99% of everyone said Phil was the best and seemed to be certain about it. I personally have had pop at #1 for some time given how he recruited and developed the situation he's currently in. So yeah I think Phil has been overrated. Doesnt mean he's still not #2. I think its been the extreme confidence people have had that hes #1 that is what makes him overrated more than anything.

Ok, so then let me ask you, does it worry you that Pop lost to Phil 4 out of 5 times?

Or that Pop has had the same "core" of 3 HOFers from 03 to 14, yet never once defended his title?

Whereas Phil has 3 peated 3 times, and repeated another time?

Or that Phil, while coaching great players to be sure, coached 4 different "cores" for those 11 titles, and 13 Finals appearances? And as we stated with Pop, he coached the same 3 HOFers for an 11 year stretch.

Phil never had more than 5 years straight with the same guys.

Or as I said earlier, Pop made 4 of his 6 Finals when Phil wasn't coaching, while Phil went to 7 Finals in 10 years in the same conference as Pop.


I assume, none of that matters to you, Pop is still #1, right? Seems kinda shaky for you, don't it?

 

[Clyde Frog]

My definition of overrated doesn't mean someone still can't be great. For the longest time now it seems 99% of everyone said Phil was the best and seemed to be certain about it. I personally have had pop at #1 for some time given how he recruited and developed the situation he's currently in. So yeah I think Phil has been overrated. Doesnt mean he's still not #2. I think its been the extreme confidence people have had that hes #1 that is what makes him overrated more than anything.

Ok, so then let me ask you, does it worry you that Pop lost to Phil 4 out of 5 times?

Or that Pop has had the same "core" of 3 HOFers from 03 to 14, yet never once defended his title?

Whereas Phil has 3 peated 3 times, and repeated another time?

Or that Phil, while coaching great players to be sure, coached 4 different "cores" for those 11 titles, and 13 Finals appearances? And as we stated with Pop, he coached the same 3 HOFers for an 11 year stretch.

Phil never had more than 5 years straight with the same guys.

Or as I said earlier, Pop made 4 of his 6 Finals when Phil wasn't coaching, while Phil went to 7 Finals in 10 years in the same conference as Pop.


I assume, none of that matters to you, Pop is still #1, right? Seems kinda shaky for you, don't it?

Im well aware of Phils resume and I dont necessarily think it always translates to ones ability to coach. Kinda like how Russell isnt the greatest of all time justbecause of his rings. There's much more to coaching than calling out X's and O's during the game. Im fascinated at Pop's ability to go find a teenage Parker and Ginobli and then to coach them up to what they've become now. Im fascinated that he was capable of winning a championship primarily only using his bench players. Pop has showed the world multiple times what great coaching can do. Not just watching Jordan, Kobe, or Shaq take over a game again and again. Now we can go back and forth about the hypotheticals. Did Jordan make Phil or did Phil Make Jordan? How about Kobe, or Shaq? Would Pop have been more successful with those guys? Could Phil do what Pop did? But the fact that you're coming at me like im 100% wrong about Pop and you are 100% right about Phil because of a resume is exactly why I think he's overrated. They're both great coaches and on each others heels.

 

[mister friendly]

You have to earn an individual award to even begin to think Hall of Fame

Horry has an 2nd team All Rookie team selection

Fisher has no awards

At least Michael Cooper has NBA Defensive Player of the Year award and 8 NBA All Defensive Team selections to go along with 5 rings

 

[hometownhero]

When you guys list a potential line up and say you like, what do you like it for? 

A contender for a title, making the playoffs, what..............?

 

[CP1708]

Why?

Because all that **** is in the past and all you dudes are just gonna argue back and forth about opinions you formed years ago.

And?

You argue page after page after page about your stupid bull ****, why now you tellin people to shut up when they actually discussing something without any sort of ill will or bad blood or anything?

You don't wanna read it, then put us all on ignore and be gone. Simple solution.

 

[cashbanks]

Phil housed Pop for years why is this even being discussed ?