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So y'all wouldn't want CP3 as your starting PG?
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See here's the thing, you can't "cape" with facts
Chris Paul had a really bad meltdown at the end of game 5. However, the series was out of a possible 7 games. That moment does not capture his entire series, no matter how you slice it.
You can't put up those numbers and only have "2 good moments" that seriesthe fact that you said those were his only good moments in the series shows pure bias.
Understand that as bad as the end of game 5 was for CP3, he was still really good the entire series. The series was more than that moment. Had the Clippers won game 5, it still doesn't guarantee that they would win the series anyway.
You caping for a player by posting his stats, um hes a great player its expected
His stat sheet doesnt show a wcf does it?
9 seasons, you supposed to be the best "pure" "pass first" pg, but you still dont have a stat in the conference finals, hes slightly overrated man stop saving this pillsbury doughboy,
Posting stats to save a great player like its not expected, when your great, stats dont matter anymore its all about winning & cp is a career loser
did doc get outcoached by brooks or did cp not lead his team like a 9 year "superstar" vet should?
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True lemme add I think it's definitive that plum has got better ups. He blocked Bron bruh
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I mean, he's made the playoffs every year except last year. Name one series where you felt like Melo's Nuggets / Knicks were supposed to win? (Not asking you, just stating in general) A.I. wasn't even all that bad in Denver, especially when he first got there. Was playing some of the most efficient ball of his career in denver when he first got there.
Because of guys like KD and Bron, you don't even realize how special Melo is. He's getting better as he's getting older, on both ends of the floor. Especially last year, where he made some remarkable strides on the defensive side of the ball. Dudes think if they don't win rings and go deep into the playoffs then it was a **** season for them, when that's just not the case.
That CP3 being the only veteran thing is a copout IMO. That's not why he hasn't had playoff success. Look at the conference he's playing in, and look at who he's loosing to. Fact of the matter is, the Clips were a championship caliber team, but so is about five other teams in the west and even the ones that aren't are very competitive. It's hard as hell to win in the NBA, and even more so in the west. That's why you can't judge a player PURELY by their success. That does not mean he's free from criticism, because that isn't the case. But what it does mean is, that you can't just call him a loser because he doesn't have playoff success. That's a lazy way to assess someone's career.
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blake for some reason reminds me of donkeylips from salute your shorts... shane looks like el pedro.... and jeremy looks like that taco bell dog... and kevin love just looks creepy on some he peeked up girl skirts.... weird funny style stuff
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Lebron is gonna make Kyrie look so good with all the attention he's gonna get.
I could already see people saying that Kyrie is a top 2 PG in the league
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Quake been a dime.
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So i'm caping by showing his stats? I watched the entire series man, if you don't think he played a very good series against OKC then I don't know what to tell you
when the only thing you acknowledged about CP3's series against OKC is his game 5 meltdown, then that tells me all that I need to know. You're not even assessing hoop objectively. I only use stats as a means of proving my point, which is that he had a really good series against OKC. KD and Russ were just better.He doesn't have a stat in the conference finals so I guess i'm caping right? See that's the **** I mean. It isn't that simple. He doesn't have a stat in the conference finals because he plays in the damn west. He's lost to Memphis, San Antonio, and OKC since being in LA...look at that man. None of those series are guaranteed wins. You guys like to think "Great players = great success. He doesn't have great playoff success = overrated" when it's not that simple. Quoting "superstar" as if CP3 isn't one...****
And to your last point, it was neither. Doc's coaching or CP When two great teams go head up the team with the best player normally has the edge, especially when he has homecourt and is the 2nd best player in the league. It's hard to beat that. That being said, The Clips had a great shot to beat OKC, but KD and Russ were just too heavy. That happens man. You regroup and see if you can go at it next year.
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i dont think the clips especially when paul first got there were nowhere near being a chip team.... blake big leap this year kinda put them in the talks,,, but to be honest i still dont see them as a chip team.... would it be a complete shocker if somehow they went.... not really, but i wouldnt be shocked if they went out and lost to the likes of the grizz or gsw first round either.
I mean i agree a little about melo.... (but while iverson was a more efficient player... didnt really see him as much of a effective/impact player) those denver days... he just kinda played more controlled. But as i was saying outside lebron when is the last time you saw any player make it to the finals without a legit all-star premiere player by their side? Especially in the west, its damn near impossible to make it to the playoffs without two on a team. But i do wish melo would play the same kinda d... with that kinda effort etc... that he showed for team usa.
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he sucks.
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These dudes are fools.
Melo slander is one thing, Rose jokes are another, so on for dude years back like A.I. and T-Mac but I guess it's CP3's turn for the recklessness.
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Same people who have these opinions are the same dudes who think Telfair and Mayo will still have good careers
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You telling me cp wasnt capable of playing like game 1 for 4 gms if hes a "superstar" & "the best pg"
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if cp3 isnt a great pg and top tier then im curious as to who do you guys think is....
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Best PG in the game.Lebron is gonna make Kyrie look so good with all the attention he's gonna get.
I could already see people saying that Kyrie is a top 2 PG in the league
Bron was hold my man back from averaging 20, 10 & 5
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Are you insinuating that CP isn't a superstar or something? Why do you keep putting that in quotes?
You don't think he's the best PG in the league or something? ( I think he is. But if you thought he wasn't or something I wouldn't be mad at that. PG position is loaded)
And I don't know what series you were looking at, but through 6 games CP was there for most of them. Game 1 was an outlier because he isn't that prolific of a shooter. That's not what he does best. What he does best as a lead guard, he did for that entire series for the most part. I don't know what you want to see out of him to validate his status in this league.
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That superstar title gets thrown around loosely, superstar is more than just being great player
Only 3 superstars in the league, the rest are just great players, d rose was on his way to being that next superstar
Only 3 superstars in the league, the rest are just great players, d rose was on his way to being that next superstar
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KD, LeBron, Kobe???
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Lol I was. And the cheesing editing
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Name your 3 you troll.
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No, it really is that simple. That's what I've learned from NT. If you're called a star player, haven't won a title and you lose in the second round of the playoffs, you have to be called an overrated bum, otherwise you're "getting a pass." The sooner you accept this fundamental truth, the easier things will be for you on here.
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