2013-2014 NBA Season Thread - Congrats to the Spurs, DBD is still a buster

[a-friend]

the difference between OKC and SA was evident in that last few minutes of the 4th and overtime. OKC only shoots jumpers and has no inside game whatsoever. You can't win in the playoffs or finals without inside scoring.

The difference between OKC and SA was bench scoring and coaching. 3 guard lineup along with a 40+ point differential in bench scoring will do it for ya.

Thanks for clearing that up for him man, can't believe "inside scoring" was mentioned as to why Spurs won. Points in the paint don't equal inside scoring. You guys need to get off the stat sheets and watch the games, the actual games.

 

[es el]

The Trailblazers were right in picking Greg Oden over Kevin Durant

 

[rck3sactown]

 

 

You guys are really underrating Kobe defensively, he was a very good defensive player.

for a stretch he was actually very good. that is for sure.

his D in Beijing and even London was 

His D during all 5 rings was way above par. Why only mention Olympics?

because during the Olympics he was more or less the designated lockdown defender of the team and had 99% of his focus on that end of the floor.

I didn't mean to take away anything from his D in the NBA, its just that during the Olympics it really really stood out for me.

 

[durantula]

 

 

You guys are really underrating Kobe defensively, he was a very good defensive player.

for a stretch he was actually very good. that is for sure.


his D in Beijing and even London was :x :x :x :x

His D during all 5 rings was way above par. Why only mention Olympics?

because during the Olympics he was more or less the designated lockdown defender of the team and had 99% of his focus on that end of the floor.

I didn't mean to take away anything from his D in the NBA, its just that during the Olympics it really really stood out for me.

Ive slept on rck's trolling

 

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The Trailblazers were right in picking Greg Oden over Kevin Durant

U dont believe that

 

[a-friend]

 

 

You guys are really underrating Kobe defensively, he was a very good defensive player.

for a stretch he was actually very good. that is for sure.


his D in Beijing and even London was :x :x :x :x

His D during all 5 rings was way above par. Why only mention Olympics?

because during the Olympics he was more or less the designated lockdown defender of the team and had 99% of his focus on that end of the floor.

I didn't mean to take away anything from his D in the NBA, its just that during the Olympics it really really stood out for me.

Fair enough

 

[rck3sactown]

Ive slept on rck's trolling

I'm being srs right now 

 

 

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[yeezusdisciple]

Tim duncan has had 2 hof players and a alltime great coach his whole career and only has 4 rings

Kobe has had strecthes with mike brown as a coach and stretches with chucky atkins and luke walton and even smush parker in his starting five and has more rings yet duncan is a better player??

 

[a-friend]

RCK normally is strictly the "money man". A good cosigner so to speak, so it's easy to sleep on him or bypass what he said unless it's trolling, then he brings a few responses, well, a few responses from posters that aren't hi-fiving or repping him on name and familiarity alone. He's the Ernie of the thread so to speak, one if the many

 

[pepperjackchees]

 

Ive slept on rck's trolling

I'm being srs right now 

 

 

[shatterkneesinc]

Tim duncan has had 2 hof players and a alltime great coach his whole career and only has 4 rings

Kobe has had strecthes with mike brown as a coach and stretches with chucky atkins and luke walton and even smush parker in his starting five and has more rings yet duncan is a better player??

not sure if trolling

 

[acidicality]

Kobe's had Phil Jackson (one of the greatest coaches in history) as his coach for all his titles, and played with an in-his-prime Shaq to win his first three titles.

Duncan's definitely been fortunate as well having Pop as his coach and being able to play with David Robinson to start his career off. It shows how much the "legacy" of a player is really dictated by things that none of the players can control; it's dictated on circumstances and good fortune, being in the right spot at the right time. That's why these Player A>Player B things can sometimes be very pointless to have debates over.

Even with coaches as well; how good a coach is doesn't always correlate with how many wins that coach has under his record. So much depends on circumstances and being in the right place at the right time.

 

[wavycrocket]

Idk if Manu and Parker are HOFer's as far as NBA is concerned.

Internationally, sure. But they're NBA resumes are kinda slim.

Duncan has arguably had the best career since Jordan.

 

[a-friend]

Tim duncan has had 2 hof players and a alltime great coach his whole career and only has 4 rings

Kobe has had strecthes with mike brown as a coach and stretches with chucky atkins and luke walton and even smush parker in his starting five and has more rings yet duncan is a better player??

ONLY 4 rings! Only, like they are so easy to get. Kobe won when Kobe had a good supporting cast. When he didn't have the best(as so many don't) he didn't win. Doesn't take anything away from the man, just speaks volumes about how in tune everything And everyone must be to win that ring. Lots of greats walk away empty handed. To say Tim ONLY has 4 rings with what he's been surrounded with is unfathomable to me. I don't understand that kind of talk, HES GOT 4 rings yo. 4 not none

 

[Deleted member 37467]

It shows how much the "legacy" of a player is really dictated by things that none of the players can control; it's dictated on circumstances and good fortune, being in the right spot at the right time. That's why these Player A>Player B things can sometimes be very pointless to have debates over.

Even with coaches as well; how good a coach is doesn't always correlate with how many wins that coach has under his record. So much depends on circumstances and being in the right place at the right time.

Good post.

Imagine if Kobe never gets traded to LA or the Celtics won that 1997 Draft.

Both of their careers would've been vastly different.

Idk if Manu and Parker are HOFer's as far as NBA is concerned.

Internationally, sure. But they're NBA resumes are kinda slim.

Luckily for them an NBA HOF doesn't exist.

 

[certifiedflyboi23]

 

[yeezusdisciple]

Parker Nd manu are def hall of fame players b

 

[Lake Shore Drive]

Manu and Parker are def HOF'rs

 

[a-friend]

@WavyCrockett Manu is the greatest 6th man ever.
He could have been a starter on any team at any point in his career.
You have to know he's an Hall of Famer! Right?

 

[a-friend]

Idk if Manu and Parker are HOFer's as far as NBA is concerned.

Internationally, sure. But they're NBA resumes are kinda slim.

Duncan has arguably had the best career since Jordan.

Where'd you read this? Who gave you this info.
Tim Duncan point you are right, that can be argued

 

[pums]

@WavyCrockett Manu is the greatest 6th man ever.
He could have been a starter on any team at any point in his career.
You have to know he's an Hall of Famer! Right?

You could same the same thing about guys like Joe Johnson but the thing with Manu is he is really fortunate that he landed with the spurs.

 

[awm412]

For the Manu being a HOF'er, here are his career averages. 14.7 ppg, 3.8 reb, 4 assists, 1.4 steals, 45.2 FG%, and 27.1 mins

I would have liked to have seen what his numbers would have been if get got more minutes.

Obviously, stats aren't all that matter for the HOF, but they'll certainly be given significant weight. Interpret them as you will...

 

[certifiedflyboi23]

Manu is a hof'er

Look at his euro stats

 

[wavycrocket]

Jamal Crawford is almost as good as a 6th man as Manu. Jason terry as well.

The best 6th man of all time was Kevin McHale... And Manu's stats don't compare to his.

Manu was Really fortunate playing for the spurs.

Is Vinny "microwave" Johnson a HOFer too then?

Euro gets Manu in. But from a strict NBA standpoint, his resume isn't strong enough.