shoeking2101
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i dont want basketball to end lol
Exactly
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i dont want basketball to end lol
Common sense would say LeBron won rings guy he has 2. Didn't I list the amount of rings Bron won in one of my earlier statements? People could give a rats *** about the Bills. What random average joe do you hear talking about the Bills? They lost they're an after thought just like everyone else who came in 2nd. You having great respect for someone does not change public opinion. Bron will be judged by the amount of rings he has and the amount of finals defeats he has. No player is exempt.So LeBron has never won a NBA title?
People do care about those Bills teams.
Several hall of fame players from those teams, and I think Marv Levy is in the hall as well.
As a Cowboys fan I have a great deal of respect for those Bills teams.
Lebron came up during the Iverson/And1 generation.You gotta be bro, to some degree imo to be the best...
Jordan never lost in one. And he played against more elite teams.
But you used a team with no titles as an analogy.Common sense would say LeBron won rings guy he has 2. Didn't I list the amount of rings Bron won in one of my earlier statements? People could give a rats *** about the Bills. What random average joe do you hear talking about the Bills? They lost they're an after thought just like everyone else who came in 2nd. You having great respect for someone does not change public opinion. Bron will be judged by the amount of rings he has and the amount of finals defeats he has. No player is exempt.
My whole point was that losers are not as revered as winners. Kobe will never be better than MJ because MJ won more and loss less so on and so on. Bron is an all time great no doubt about. I would never argue that he isn't. What will be argued is his place amongst the greats. Losing will not help his case in the end just like everyone else that came before him and will come after him.But you used a team with no titles as an analogy.
Besides, Lebron was a household name before he played his first NBA game.
Dudes legacy is already written.
Multiple titles is just icing on the cake.
Take get it Spurs.
This is gonna have Bron losing in 3 NBA finals.
Jordan never lost in one. And he played against more elite teams.
Dude is Fathers Day. Kawhi lost his father in 2008. Spurs by 4. Kawhi for Finals MVP
No Jordan didn't man. Maybe in the finals a few times, but overall he didn't. The league is better now than it was then.
But its already popular opinion that he is or will end up being better than those guys. Jordan is the benchmark for Bron at this point, where he reaches or falls short of it.Instead of comparing Lebron to Jordan nonstop shouldn't we compare him to someone like Magic or Bird? I'm not a Lebron hater but isn't the Jordan comparison done? He's already lost 2 finals and possibly on his way to losing another and he choked big time in one of those. The reason there are so many Lebron haters is because of the ridiculous Jordan hype around him. Jordan is in a class alone. Lebron should be in the next tier with Jerry West, Kobe, Magic, Bird, Wilt and others.
Btw: Lebron was not no damn household name before he played his first game. Who outside of NBA fans and casual nba fans knew Lebron?
No Jordan didn't man. Maybe in the finals a few times, but overall he didn't. The league is better now than it was then.
How is the league better now?
How is the league better now?
The players are more athletic but it's a soft league.
Instead of comparing Lebron to Jordan nonstop shouldn't we compare him to someone like Magic or Bird? I'm not a Lebron hater but isn't the Jordan comparison done? He's already lost 2 finals and possibly on his way to losing another and he choked big time in one of those. The reason there are so many Lebron haters is because of the ridiculous Jordan hype around him. Jordan is in a class alone. Lebron should be in the next tier with Jerry West, Kobe, Magic, Bird, Wilt and others.
Btw: Lebron was not no damn household name before he played his first game. Who outside of NBA fans and casual nba fans knew Lebron?
But its already popular opinion that he is or will end up being better than those guys. Jordan is the benchmark for Bron at this point, where he reaches or falls short of it.
More than just being more athletic, from a skill perspective they are better as well. Defensive schemes have gotten much better combined with things like the advent of the Zone defense which makes it harder for the offensive player to score. Better defense promotes better offensive players to combat that. The league isn't all that "soft" either. People are just infatuated with OD physical play which was glamorized back then.
Agreed...even though I feel like Lebron is just too young for us to already cement his place in history as being greater or lesser than Jordan...win or lose this final.