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That look on your face when you realize you don't have it any more.......
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FixedDiaw and Leonard are the true MVP of this series. But Timmy will get that award. He is the most successful player of his generation and he deserves that
I ll go with the original. Duncan Is the best player on the planet of his generation. He is the best PF everFixedDiaw and Leonard are the true MVP of this series. But Timmy will get that award. He is the most successful player of his generation and he deserves that
Yes and Yes.
I ll go with the original. Duncan Is the best player on the planet of his generation. He is the best PF ever.
STephen A Smith gotta be on lebrons payroll. I've never seen such groupie **** to such a high level. Protect his image at all costs. Find blame elsewhere.
He was a NO SHOW I the first half. Who gives a **** if he starts scoring when they are down 20. ******* pathetic
oh sorry.
I think also that Mario Chalmers could be a serious candidate to win the finals MVP for San Antonio.
He changed the both ends of the floor in their favor.
Bron is the best player in the League. One of the best players I've ever watched.
At no point should It seem like he's not on the floor and at times last night it felt like he wasn't even out there.
IMO that's just not how it should be. And it's all on him. Yes Kawhi is doing a very good job defensively but C'mon this is Lebron James we talking about.
Agreed; not that I think the blame for this series is squarely on Lebron but it shouldn't take them being down 20 for him to assert himself on offense. He is usually great at getting guys involved and making the right pass/play, and he always plays efficiently and doesn't force things. But sometimes he doesn't force things almost to a fault IMO. Look, I think the Spurs are just on another level right now and really putting on a basketball clinic. Not sure it would matter what Lebron did, but sometimes you gotta go down swinging. It's nice that he always makes the right pass and trusts his teammates, but sometimes you gotta realize a contested shot for you might be a better basketball play than swinging it to Mario Chalmers in this series We've seen him do things like that before: Game 6 vs the Celtics, 25 straight vs the Pistons, etc. Maybe if he goes into attack mode it's enough to keep them within striking distance, maybe it's not. But I'd rather my team leader shoot 13-30 or have 12 assists but 6 turnovers because he's going down fighting than to play an efficient game where he isn't at least taking the risk of failing in the off chance that he succeeds.
I mean, Lebron's not playing poorly by any means, but he's going long stretches without imposing his will. I know it was a blowout, but he only took 17 shots and had 2 assists. He didn't do much to score or create for others in the first half. By the time he came alive in the 3rd it didn't matter. The Heat have often been good enough for him to coast through the first 3 quarters and then close in the 4th; that ain't working against the Spurs. When his teammates are hitting open shots and playing well Lebron is almost unstoppable. Asking him to do more is a tough ask, but I'd at least like to see him try. When Kobe or MJ's teammates were letting him down, you know they knew the other team was better. But they'd be damned if they didn't at least empty the clip trying to avoid the impossible. Lebron seems like he is more inclined to play the "right way" and if his teammates let him down he lives with the results. Perhaps there's something noble about that, and historically it's worked out well for him (obviously). Maybe I think too highly of him and expect too much because it seems like he does things like score 19 in that third quarter so effortlessly, that he ought to at least try to dominate more often. Maybe he's more human than I give him credit for and he's just exhausted? I don't know.
As much as I'm enjoying the team brilliance from the Spurs and strongly want them to win the series; I was at least hoping to see some individual brilliance from Lebron put up a fight. It hasn't really materialized. Lebron is a smart guy and I'm sure he knows the Spurs are the better team. But he kinda seems like he's playing like he knows it. To me guys like Russ, CP3, Kobe,, MJ have this thing about them where it seems like they're so competitive that they're irrational/delusional: you're not better than us until the series is over, and even then you're not better than us, we just haven't proved it yet It's funny to watch guys who are this competitive and from the outside it almost seems insane sometimes, but it's something I wish Lebron had because I think he's one of only a handful of players of the past 30 years (Lebron, KD, Kobe, MJ) who's talented and gifted enough to actually deliver on that kind of irrational, deluded competitiveness and beat a team like the Spurs.
And THAT is the problem(if you want to label it as such) with Lebron. I hate to bring him up, but look at MJ in game 6 against Utah. Scottie was a ghost. MJ went out and shot the ball 35 times. I know they're different players and are asked to do different things but come on. Lebron can get in that post and attack that rim on every possession if he wanted to. Look around. If your teammates are sharting the sheets, no one will knock you if you hog the ball.
Agreed; not that I think the blame for this series is squarely on Lebron but it shouldn't take them being down 20 for him to assert himself on offense. He is usually great at getting guys involved and making the right pass/play, and he always plays efficiently and doesn't force things. But sometimes he doesn't force things almost to a fault IMO. Look, I think the Spurs are just on another level right now and really putting on a basketball clinic. Not sure it would matter what Lebron did, but sometimes you gotta go down swinging. It's nice that he always makes the right pass and trusts his teammates, but sometimes you gotta realize a contested shot for you might be a better basketball play than swinging it to Mario Chalmers in this series We've seen him do things like that before: Game 6 vs the Celtics, 25 straight vs the Pistons, etc. Maybe if he goes into attack mode it's enough to keep them within striking distance, maybe it's not. But I'd rather my team leader shoot 13-30 or have 12 assists but 6 turnovers because he's going down fighting than to play an efficient game where he isn't at least taking the risk of failing in the off chance that he succeeds.
I mean, Lebron's not playing poorly by any means, but he's going long stretches without imposing his will. I know it was a blowout, but he only took 17 shots and had 2 assists. He didn't do much to score or create for others in the first half. By the time he came alive in the 3rd it didn't matter. The Heat have often been good enough for him to coast through the first 3 quarters and then close in the 4th; that ain't working against the Spurs. When his teammates are hitting open shots and playing well Lebron is almost unstoppable. Asking him to do more is a tough ask, but I'd at least like to see him try. When Kobe or MJ's teammates were letting him down, you know they knew the other team was better. But they'd be damned if they didn't at least empty the clip trying to avoid the impossible. Lebron seems like he is more inclined to play the "right way" and if his teammates let him down he lives with the results. Perhaps there's something noble about that, and historically it's worked out well for him (obviously). Maybe I think too highly of him and expect too much because it seems like he does things like score 19 in that third quarter so effortlessly, that he ought to at least try to dominate more often. Maybe he's more human than I give him credit for and he's just exhausted? I don't know.
As much as I'm enjoying the team brilliance from the Spurs and strongly want them to win the series; I was at least hoping to see some individual brilliance from Lebron put up a fight. It hasn't really materialized. Lebron is a smart guy and I'm sure he knows the Spurs are the better team. But he kinda seems like he's playing like he knows it. To me guys like Russ, CP3, Kobe,, MJ have this thing about them where it seems like they're so competitive that they're irrational/delusional: you're not better than us until the series is over, and even then you're not better than us, we just haven't proved it yet It's funny to watch guys who are this competitive and from the outside it almost seems insane sometimes, but it's something I wish Lebron had because I think he's one of only a handful of players of the past 30 years (Lebron, KD, Kobe, MJ) who's talented and gifted enough to actually deliver on that kind of irrational, deluded competitiveness and beat a team like the Spurs.
And THAT is the problem(if you want to label it as such) with Lebron. I hate to bring him up, but look at MJ in game 6 against Utah. Scottie was a ghost. MJ went out and shot the ball 35 times. I know they're different players and are asked to do different things but come on. Lebron can get in that post and attack that rim on every possession if he wanted to. Look around. If your teammates are sharting the sheets, no one will knock you if you hog the ball.
Agreed. My hatred for him and the Heat hope he never figures this out though
not true. i honestly believe that 2011 was a whole different issue. mavs played him the right way as a team defensively and gave him looks that he didn't see before. they forced the ball out of his hands. go watch marc cuban on first take a couple of years ago. know for sure it's on youtube.
edit: here ya go.
do you really believe lebron stops playing hard because he doesn't want to be the one to get blamed? newsflash bruh, people ride him regardless of what he does.
dude was the only player over 15 points tonight and its still his fault. he was the only one who came out in the 3rd quarter with some type of aggression. he definitely could have played better in the first half. believe it or not, kawhi is actually a damn good defender.
Of course Lebron will get blame that's what the casual fan does...it's the way of the world...but anybody who actually watches the games can't lay blame at Lebron's feet.