2010 Official Boxing Thread: Soto/Antillon, 2010 Fight of the Year.

Dawson is a scrub, he's very skilled but a scrub nonetheless. That fool camped outside the WBC President's office to beg him to not have to fight his mandatory Diaconu. Actually how many titles has Chad vacated because he didn't want to fight the mandatory? He thought Pascal was a piece of cake so he went for it
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. And I shouln't be laughing, I put big money on Dawson to win. But if Dawson thinks Cloud is a tuneup before he goes to Montreal again he's in for a surprise. And the reason for Cloud inactivity is quite obvious he purposely waited until his deal with his old promoter to expire in order to sign with Don King.
 
Originally Posted by freakydestroyer

Dawson is a scrub, he's very skilled but a scrub nonetheless. That fool camped outside the WBC President's office to beg him to not have to fight his mandatory Diaconu. Actually how many titles has Chad vacated because he didn't want to fight the mandatory? He thought Pascal was a piece of cake so he went for it
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. And I shouln't be laughing, I put big money on Dawson to win. But if Dawson thinks Cloud is a tuneup before he goes to Montreal again he's in for a surprise. And the reason for Cloud inactivity is quite obvious he purposely waited until his deal with his old promoter to expire in order to sign with Don King.
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And I didn't know the #2 rated light heavyweight in the world could be called a "scrub".
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Your views are pure comedy man, let me explain.

Dawson vacated his belt to fight Tarver, the more established name. Diaconu pulled out of an earlier scheduled fight with Dawson because of an injury and Mendoza took his place. So you can clearly get that Dawson ducked Diaconu crap outta here. As for the supposed Cloud ducking, he vacated so he could rematch Glen Johnson, why? Because A lot of people thought Glen Johnson won the first fight, so the rematch was warranted and he wanted to silence the critics. And when Dawson does end up fighting Cloud sometime in early 2011 since Pascal did not want to give Dawson a rematch immediately...
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Dawson isn't a scrub but he's not impressive either. If Dawson fights anything like he did against Jean he's going to lose again. Cloud is a very impressive pressure fighter and Dawson clearly can't handle it.
 
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Originally Posted by freakydestroyer

Dawson is a scrub, he's very skilled but a scrub nonetheless. That fool camped outside the WBC President's office to beg him to not have to fight his mandatory Diaconu. Actually how many titles has Chad vacated because he didn't want to fight the mandatory? He thought Pascal was a piece of cake so he went for it
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. And I shouln't be laughing, I put big money on Dawson to win. But if Dawson thinks Cloud is a tuneup before he goes to Montreal again he's in for a surprise. And the reason for Cloud inactivity is quite obvious he purposely waited until his deal with his old promoter to expire in order to sign with Don King.
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And I didn't know the #2 rated light heavyweight in the world could be called a "scrub".
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Your views are pure comedy man, let me explain.

Dawson vacated his belt to fight Tarver, the more established name. Diaconu pulled out of an earlier scheduled fight with Dawson because of an injury and Mendoza took his place. So you can clearly get that Dawson ducked Diaconu crap outta here. As for the supposed Cloud ducking, he vacated so he could rematch Glen Johnson, why? Because A lot of people thought Glen Johnson won the first fight, so the rematch was warranted and he wanted to silence the critics. And when Dawson does end up fighting Cloud sometime in early 2011 since Pascal did not want to give Dawson a rematch immediately...
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yeah if you go by that logic, Bernard Hopkins was NEVER ducking Dawson right? But after Pascal defeated Dawson, Hopkins calls Pascal the very next day to set up a match to fight the "best light heavyweight".  Dawson has been ducking Cloud for years, but now he might give him a chance now that he saw Cloud didn't beat Glen Johnson very convincingly, he beat him by an inch. It's not hard to see that Dawson avoids power punchers and brawlers. And Dawson is not a scrub in the sense that he's a nobody. He's a scrub in the sense that he is not clever enough to utilize all his skills and tools. If the two ever get in the ring, Cloud is going to give Dawson the Paul Williams treatment.
 
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Sunday at Las Vegas
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Junior welterweight
Amir Khan W12 Marcos Maidana

Retains a junior welterweight title
Scores: 114-111 (twice), 113-112​
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Rafael's remark: When November began the candidates for fight of the year were few and far between. Now, it seems like almost every week we get another solid candidate. On this night at Mandalay Bay, with a horn-blowing pro-Khan crowd of 4,632, we just might have gotten THE fight of the year. Khan, making his third title defense, and interim titlist (and mandatory challenger) Maidana put on a tremendous action battle filled with drama, lots of hard hitting and a relentless pace. It was the kind of fight that left spectators sweating when it was over. It was that good.





Fighting in the United States for the second time and making his Las Vegas debut, Khan almost ended it in the first round when he sunk a brutal left hook into Maidana's liver near the end of the round. But Maidana willed himself to his feet, ate a couple of more shots but survived. Khan also had a huge second round. But Argentina's Maidana, 27, never stopped coming at England's Khan, who turned 24 four days before the fight. Maidana, who lost a point for elbowing in the fifth round, has tremendous power and when he was able to deliver it, he hurt Khan. But Khan, a bit bigger, a lot faster and more skilled, showed a ton of heart and a much better chin than anyone thought he had. Although Khan made some mistakes, such as laying on the ropes far too much, which gave Maidana an opportunity to tee off on him, he did a very good job of moving and outboxing him while also peppering him with solid shots.





Khan had been dropped several times earlier in his career and had been smashed out in 54 seconds by Breidis Prescott in 2008, a loss he is still trying to live down. This victory against Maidana ought to finally put that to rest. The kid can take a shot. If he couldn't there is no way he would have survived so many hard punches from the powerful Maidana. In the dramatic 10th round, perhaps the defining moment of Khan's career so far, he survived a massive onslaught. Although severely hurt for most of the round, he kept his composure and never went down in as dramatic a round as you'll see. Maidana, clearly trailing at that point, just could not finish him off. Referee Joe Cortez, who insinuated himself in the fight far too often, sure didn't do Maidana any favors. Khan had tried to tie Maidana up several times, but even though Maidana was punching with his free hand, Cortez often jumped in to separate them. The rule is that as long as a hand is free, you're supposed to punch out of it. Not Cortez's best night. Still, Khan got the well-deserved victory against an opponent many wrongly believed he was afraid to fight, and he put to rest a lot of the questions that have haunted him since the loss to Prescott. If you missed this sensational fight, you can catch a replay on HBO2 at midnight ET/PT Tuesday or on HBO on Demand. It's worth it.




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Junior welterweight
Victor Ortiz D10 Lamont Peterson

Scores: 95-93 Peterson, 94-94 (twice)​
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Rafael's remark: Good fight, bad decision. Although Ortiz did not look great (far from it), he still did enough to deserve the decision, but was instead saddled with a draw. And not only a draw, but one judge actually voted for Peterson, which was a shock. Ortiz, 23, of Oxnard, Calif., suffered a nasty cut in his hairline in the opening round from an accidental head butt, but his corner did a great job of closing it and the blood did not become a factor. Ortiz, whose punches were much harder, scored two knockdowns in the third round and had Peterson hanging on for dear life. Although Peterson, 26, of Washington, got back into the fight, no way did he do enough to actually warrant the draw, and certainly not enough for the win on the one scorecard. Both fighters had hight hopes of landing a title shot with a win, perhaps in the spring against main event winner Amir Khan. However, that would seem to be on hold after the draw. Ortiz had won four straight fight since quitting in the sixth round against Maidana in June 2009 in an outstanding fight. Peterson has had one title shot, but lost a lopsided decision to Timothy Bradley Jr. last December before rebounding with a win in April. Perhaps Ortiz and Peterson will have a rematch down the road, but it shouldn't be next. Let them both go their separate ways for now and in two or three fights, maybe if one of them has a title, it would make for an interesting sequel.


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Welterweight
Joan Guzman TKO2 Jason Davis

[tr][td]Records: Guzman, 31-0-1, 18 KOs; Davis, 11-8-1, 3 KOs
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Rafael's remark: Guzman is an utter waste of time. So he stopped a journeyman in Davis in two lopsided rounds. Whoopee. He did what he was supposed to do, getting the TKO when Davis' corner threw in the towel to stop Guzman from continuing to rock him with shots while Davis, who lost his seventh fight in a row (and probably shouldn't have even been approved as an opponent by Nevada officials) was trapped in a corner. But Guzman once again did not make weight. It's become a bad joke at this point. How unprofessional can a fighter be? It's not like he's done this once. Or twice. Frankly, we've lost count at this point how many times he has been over the contract weight. This time the contract was for 141 pounds, a weight he and his team said he could make. If it was a problem, they easily could have made a fight at a heavier weight. Instead, Guzman showed up at 144 pounds, and he didn't exactly look ripped. Davis, 28, was also overweight, coming in at 143, so the fight went on as planned. Had Guzman, 34, a Dominican Republic native based in New York, showed that he could make weight, he might have put himself in position to challenge Khan in the spring. His name was certainly near the top of the list for a Khan fight in England. But Golden Boy was furious with his weight and there's no way it will give him the shot now. HBO, too, was looking closely at Guzman, who has burned the network before by being overweight in his previous fight. That was in March, when he was nine pounds -- yes, nine pounds -- overweight for a 135-pound title bout. By showing up overweight again, he likely killed his shot at having HBO take another chance on him. Good riddance.
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Heavyweight
Seth Mitchell KO5 Taurus Sykes

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Rafael's remark: Mitchell, of Brandywine, Md., is an authentic American heavyweight prospect, which means he's like a drink of water in the desert. He's 28 and started boxing late because he was busy playing college football at Michigan State before a knee injury derailed his NFL hopes. But he has come a long way in his two-year pro career. He's a hard worker, continues to get better and is fundamentally sound. He just needs rounds and experience. New York's Sykes, 35, who has faced several quality opponents (including Alexander Povetkin, Samuel Peter, Hasim Rahman), was the perfect opponent for him and Mitchell, 6-foot-2 and a solid 243 pounds, did what he was supposed to do -- get rid of him and look pretty good doing it. Mitchell, who scored his fifth knockout in a row, won every round while doing damage to the body. In the fifth, he dropped Sykes with a right to the head and then dropped him again for good moments later. Sykes, fighting for only the second time since ending a two-year layoff, was clearly out of gas by about the fourth round and just could not take Mitchell's shots. If Golden Boy can keep Mitchell busy in 2011 and he continues to polish his game, he could be a factor in the division by 2012. He has a lot of potential.
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Saturday at Tacoma, Wash.
Showtime Bantamweight Tournament semifinals
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Bantamweight
Joseph Agbeko W12 Yonnhy Perez

Regains a bantamweight title
Scores: 117-111, 116-112, 115-113​
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Rafael's remark: In October 2009, Colombia's Perez, 31, knocked Agbeko, 30, of Ghana, down in the 10th round on his way to a clear decision to win a belt in a tremendous action fight. Agbeko hadn't fought since, but was Perez's mandatory challenger when they met in a rematch in the semifinals of Showtime's four-man, single-elimination tournament. Perez had retained the belt in his first defense with a draw against tournament participant Abner Mares in May in a tough fight. He got an even tougher one in his rematch with Agbeko, who was efficient with his punches and strong on defense as he regained his belt with a well-deserved decision in a fierce fight. It wasn't as action-packed as the first one, however. That's because Agbeko fought a smarter, more controlled fight. He used a strong right hand and combination punching to keep Perez off balance. By the fifth round, Perez was cut over his left eye and seemed to know he was in trouble. His desperation was apparent in the sixth, which is a candidate for round of the year after they let the punches fly with abandon in a toe-to-toe slugfest. They traded numerous hard right hands and near the end of the round, Perez landed a flush one, but Agbeko didn't budge and the continued to punch it out until the bell as the crowd went wild. Agbeko had been able to weather Perez's intense storm in the sixth and regained control of the fight in the seventh round and continued putting rounds in the bank down the stretch. Agbeko had not fought in 14 months, but sure did not show any signs of ring rust as he advanced to the final against Mares in the first half of 2011. Perez and Vic Darchinyan, who lost to Mares in the other semifinal, will meet in the consolation match on the Agbeko-Mares undercard.




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Bantamweight
Abner Mares W12 Vic Darchinyan

Scores: 115-112, 115-111 Mares, 115-111 Darchinyan​
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Rafael's remark: In the first semifinal of Showtime's four-man bantamweight tournament, Mares overcame some early difficulties to win a well-deserved split decision to advance to the final, where he will challenge Agbeko for a world title. Mares, 25, the Los Angeles-based 2004 Mexican Olympian, showed immense heart in getting past Darchinyan, especially after such a tough start to the fight. An accidental head butt in the first round opened a terrible gash on the left side of Mares' hairline. It bled, often profusely, for the entire fight. In the second round, Darchinyan scored a flash knockdown on a left hand, sending Mares to the canvas for the first time in his career. In the third, Mares' cut got worse and his face was literally covered in blood in a disgusting scene. And in the fourth round, referee Bobby Howard docked Mares a point for a low blow. Everything that could have gone wrong for Mares did in the early going.





But the quicker Mares remained calm. He drove Darchinyan back and landed numerous hard body shots to get back into it in the second half of the fight. In the seventh round, he landed a left hand while Darchinyan was off balance and knocked him down. Australia's Darchinyan, 34, the former flyweight titlist and junior bantamweight champion, was not hurt and complained that it was a slip, but replays showed that Mares had clearly landed a left hand. Darchinyan is usually the bully in his fights, but Mares was the one moving Darchinyan around the ring and controlling the tempo in the second half of the fight while Darchinyan's form was getting sloppier and sloppier. He was clearly running out of steam and eventually was reduced to throwing wild left hands in an apparent desperate effort to take Mares out. Darchinyan did land some solid shots, but Mares, the naturally bigger man, took them well. It just seems that the crushing power Darchinyan possessed at 112 and 115 pounds has not been the same when he's fought at 118. Mares, meanwhile, was in tremendous condition and relentless with a withering body attack that was probably the difference in the fight in which he landed 237 of 676 punches to Darchinyan's less effective 194 of 481.





Also on the card, Puerto Rican bantamweight contender Eric Morel (43-2, 21 KOs), 35, won an eight-round decision against Mexico's Juan Jose Beltran (22-19-3, 13 KOs) on scores of 80-72 (twice) and 79-73 and 21-year-old Lancaster, Calif., junior featherweight prospect Chris Avalos (18-1, 15 KOs) stopped veteran warhorse Cecilio Santos (25-16-3, 15 KOs) of Mexico in the fourth round. Avalos won his second in a row since dropping an upset split decision to Christopher Martin in an August bantamweight bout.
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Saturday at Liverpool, England
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Super middleweight
James DeGale TKO9 Paul Smith

Wins British super middleweight title​
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Rafael's remark: DeGale, 24, won an Olympic gold medal in 2008 and two years later scored his most significant victory as a professional by stopping the well-regarded Smith, 28, a participant in the 2007 edition of "The Contender" reality series. DeGale, a southpaw taking a big step up in competition, showed a lot of poise and maturity as he won his first professional belt, the traditional British title, in a good fight. DeGale opened a cut over Smith's right eye in the fourth round on an accidental head butt and went past five rounds for the first time. In the eighth, DeGale, the faster man, was hurting Smith with shots. But in the ninth, he finally got rid of him as he pounded on Smith until referee Howard John Foster stepped in to save him from further punishment at 2 minutes, 8 seconds in the main event of promoter Frank Warren's big card celebrating his 30 years in the business. It was DeGale's most dynamic and impressive performance as he stamped himself an elite prospect, one who will probably move very quickly in 2011.




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Light heavyweight
Nathan Cleverly W12 Nadjib Mohammedi

Wins a vacant interim light heavyweight title
Scores: 116-111, 115-113, 115-112​
[tr][td]Records: Cleverly, 21-0, 10 KOs; Mohammedi, 23-2, 12 KOs
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Rafael's remark: Sometimes you just have to win and worry about looking good another time. That was the case with Wales' Cleverly, 23, who struggled in a frustrating fight, but still got the win and an interim belt that will make him mandatory for the winner of the Jan. 8. Jürgen Brähmer-Beibut Shumenov unification fight. Cleverly can be forgiven for the rough go as he was originally scheduled to fight former title challenger Alejandro Lakatos, a straight-ahead fighter. But he came down with the flu and was replaced by France's Mohammedi, 25, on a couple of days' notice. He's a mover and fights in an awkward style completely different from Lakatos'. So Cleverly had some problems catching up to him and lost his way a bit in the middle rounds, including losing a point for holding in the seventh, before restoring order and doing enough in the last few rounds to pull out the decision.
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Matthew Macklin W12 Ruben Varon

Retains European middleweight title
Scores: 117-111, 116-113 and 116-111​
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Rafael's remark: In the days leading up to this fight, England's Macklin, 28, was talking about wanting to challenge world middleweight champ Sergio Martinez. Perhaps the fight against Spain's Varon, 31, a former world title challenger, was not foremost on his mind, because Macklin, making the first defense of the vacant European belt he won in September, struggled in a tough fight that should have been a bit closer on the cards. Macklin seemed to be a bit out of gas in the late rounds and Varon lost a point for a low blow in the fifth round. If Macklin seriously wants a crack at Martinez it's going to take better performances than this one to get it.
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Welterweight
Kell Brook TKO2 Philip Kotey

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Rafael's remark: Brook, 24, of England, is a rising contender on the verge of a world title bout. There has been some talk between his promoter, Frank Warren, and Bob Arum about a match with Mike Jones for an interim title in 2011, although Jones first has a Feb. 19 rematch with Jesus Soto-Karass. But Brook stayed busy and looked good destroying Kotey, 28, of Ghana. He dropped Kotey with a left hook late in the first round and was all over him in the second round, forcing referee Manuel Oliver Palomo to stop it at 39 seconds after a series of shots send Kotey reeling into the ropes.


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Saturday at Torreon, Mexico
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Junior bantamweight
Cristian Mijares W12 Juan Alberto Rosas

Wins a junior bantamweight title
Scores: 117-113, 116-113, 115-113​
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Rafael's remark: Mexico's Rosas, 26, of Mexico, stopped South Africa's Simphiwe Nongqayi in the sixth round to win a 115-pound belt in July and made his first defense against former unified titlist and countryman Mijares, who has been on the comeback trail. In 2007 and 2008, Mijares, 29, was one of the hottest fighters in the sport and moving up the pound-for-pound list after unifying belts and scoring a series of strong victories. But then the southpaw bottomed out, losing three fights in a row in late 2008 and 2009, a lopsided ninth-round knockout to Vic Darchinyan that cost him his belts followed by back-to-back decision losses in interim bantamweight title bouts against Nehomar Cermeño. But now Mijares has won five in a row, claimed a belt in the "Top Rank Live" main event and seems to be back on track after using his boxing skills to ward off the more aggressive Rosas in a tight fight. Mijares now owes a mandatory defense against Raul Martinez.




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Saturday at St. Petersburg, Fla.
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Super middleweight
Dhafir Smith W12 Jeff Lacy

Scores: 118-110, 117-111, 116-112​
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Rafael's remark: Some results are just sad to see and this is definitely one of them as Lacy's career seems at a dead end now. The 2000 U.S. Olympian and former super middleweight titleholder hasn't been the same since Joe Calzaghe dealt him a horrific beating in their 2006 unification fight. Even though Lacy won three in a row after that fight, he struggled in each victory. Now, with this latest loss to Smith, 28, a Philadelphia journeyman, Lacy, who was fighting at home against a hand-picked opponents, has lost three of his last four (also losing to the badly faded Jermain Taylor and Roy Jones Jr.). According to the Tampa Tribute, Smith picked Lacy apart with his jab throughout the fight and landed numerous right hands while Lacy, done at age 33, hesitated to throw punches.




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Friday at Saltillo, Mexico
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Junior featherweight
Fernando Montiel KO2 Jovanny Soto

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Rafael's remark: Mexico's Montiel, 31, the unified bantamweight titlist, returned from a leg injury suffered in an Oct. 10 dirt bike accident to destroy countryman Soto, 28. The injury had forced Montiel to withdraw from a November title defense, but he wanted to get in one more fight before a much-anticipated Feb. 19 HBO showdown at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas against Nonito Donaire, who cleared his last hurdle with a spectacular performance in a knockout win against former titleholder Wladimir Sidorenko on Dec. 4. Montiel wound up facing Soto in a nontitle fight after the opponent and status had changed multiple times, which seems par for the course when it comes to Fernando Beltran's Zanfer Promotions. The bottom line, however, is that Montiel fought, dropped Soto in the first round and twice more in the second round for the easy victory. And now, at long last, Montiel-Donaire is on. It's one of the best fights that can be made in boxing's smaller weight divisions.




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Friday at Montreal
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Welterweight
Randall Bailey No Decision 2 Said Ouali

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Rafael's remark: Former junior welterweight titlist Bailey, 36, of Miami, has the power to knock anyone out. He nearly did that to Ouali, 31, of Las Vegas but originally from Morocco, in the first round when he knocked him down hard with some controversy over a count Bailey's people say was way too slow. But in the second round the fight got wilder as Bailey again knocked Ouali down with a three punch combination, including his explosive right hand. Again, Ouali survived and moments later when they were in a clinch in the corner, Bailey lifted Ouali up and as he turned his shoulder to free himself, Ouali literally fell over the ropes and slammed into the scorer's table. Obviously, he didn't beat the 20-count for being out of the ring and the fight was ruled a no decision. There didn't seem to be any intent on Bailey's part. Just one of those freak things. The winner was supposed to become the mandatory for titleholder Jan Zaveck, but a rematch could be ordered, although Ouali shouldn't want any part of that because Bailey probably finishes the job this time with a knockout.




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Thursday at Newark, N.J.
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Heavyweight
Tomasz Adamek TKO5 Vinny Maddalone

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Rafael's remark: Adamek, the former cruiserweight champ and a former light heavyweight titlist from Poland and living in Jersey City, N.J., is a top heavyweight contender. But with a serious offer for a title fight with one of the Klitschko brothers or David Haye having not come, Adamek stayed busy with his fourth fight of the year. Fighting in front of his fans at the Prudential Center, where he has become a staple, Adamek had the perfect opponent in front of him in Queens, N.Y., tough guy Maddalone, 36, who gives it everything he has, usually is in brawls and always comes up short against top opposition. He was made to order for Adamek, who moved to 5-0 as a heavyweight, in this headliner of a Main Events-promoted pay-per-view show. The much faster Adamek totally dominated. He tagged Maddalone repeatedly with his jab and ripped him with combinations. In the fifth round, he clipped Maddalone with a fast left hook to the chin and he went down on his back. Maddalone survived, but he was shaky and Adamek jumped on him. He was teeing off and as referee Steve Smoger was seemingly about to jump in to stop the fight, Maddalone's corner threw in the towel and Smoger indeed called it off at 2 minutes, 17 seconds. There has been talk of a fight with one of the Klitschkos, and a Haye fight would be a terrific fight, but none appear all likely next. That leaves Adamek, unfortunately, to continue pursuing a fight with the badly faded Roy Jones Jr. They've seriously discussed the fight, perhaps for April. If it happens, Adamek may seriously injure Jones. It's a fight that should not happen, and there's no polite way to put it.
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Sadam Ali W8 Manuel Guzman

Scores: 80-72 (three times)​
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Rafael's remark: New York's Ali, 22, was a 2008 U.S. Olympian and a rising prospect. He had never been past the fifth round before, but Guzman, 27, of Lancaster, Pa., with a strong chin, took him the eight-round distance. It was good for Ali to get in the rounds, although he won easily, sweeping every round on all three scorecards. Ali landed all kinds of punches, but Guzman took it all. His best response when getting cracked was to stick out his tongue or blow kisses to Ali, who looked a little frustrated at times, but won with ease. He opened a cut under Guzman's left eye in the third round and was completely overmatched by the quick-handed Ali.
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Wednesday at Sydney, Australia
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Middleweight
Garth Wood KO5 Anthony Mundine

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Rafael's remark: What a big upset as Wood, 32, took out his Australian countryman in stunning fashion. Wood was best known in Australia for winning his country's version of "The Contender" in January. As part of his victory on the reality series, he was guaranteed a $250,000 fight with Mundine, 35, one of Australia's biggest names in boxing and a former super middleweight titlist. Mundine, of course, was the significant favorite against a relative novice but scored the one-punch knockout with a right hand to the temple, a shot similar to the one that Sven Ottke knocked him out with in the 10th round of their 2001 super middleweight title fight. Mundine went down on his side with a vacant look in his eyes as referee Les Fear counted him out at 58 seconds. The huge upset puts Mundine's career in question.
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Dec13th[h1]The 10th Round, An Overview, or, Why Compubox is Useless[/h1]
AUTHOR: Carlos Acevedo | IN: Boxing | COMMENTS: 1 Comment


Did this punch land?

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The Cruelest Sport decided to watch the 10th round of the Amir Khan-Marcos Maidana bout four times, in slow motion, last night in an effort to analyze what appeared to be an obvious mistake that no one has pointed out yet.

Before getting to that, however, some fascinating things occurred during those three dramatic minutes.

Here are a few examples:

Khan did not attempt to throw a punch for at least one minute and thirty seconds, according to the HBO clock. He did, however, shove or push Maidana away from him no less than four times.

With about 20 seconds left in the round, a woozy Khan actually appeared to be talking to himself–even frowning–as Maidana advanced to inflict more punishment. Khan also smiled once as he was in full retreat.

Despite promoting both fighters, Oscar De La Hoya was at ringside looking particularly worried as Khan was having his neurons scrambled. Fighters might want to keep that kind of thing in mind before they sign with a promoter who plays favorites–as Shane Mosley would probably tell you–among its own roster.

It was also interesting to see just how much Joe Cortez interposed himself on the action. Throwing himself into the fray like a stage diver at a Cro-Mags show circa 1986, Cortez even seemed to take a right to the jaw from Maidana at one point. Later, Khan stumbled forward, into Maidana, and Cortez tried to grab him from behind and prop him up. He failed and instead jumped between Maidana and Khan. There is no telling what would have happened there—Khan might have stumbled to safety, Maidana might have landed some more clubbing shots, a clinch might have ensued—but Cortez decided, inexplicably, to change the course of events.

But what really kicked off this Zapruder-like analysis was the Compubox graphic flashed on the screen between rounds. Incredibly, it claimed that Maidana landed only 23 power punches in the round. This figure is so absurd that even Pierre Benoist might have questioned it. Later, the final Compubox stats credited Maidana with landing only 26 punches for the entire 10th round. This conclusion is as arbitrary as a roulette wheel, and its final posting as a “statistic
 
The Khan vs Maidana fight was a great fight. I think deducting a point for the elbow was a little unnecessary considering there was no warning. And I think the 10th round was a 10-8 round for Maidana. That would have made the fight a lot closer on score cards and i think deservedly so. I am probably a little biased considering Maidana always makes an interesting fight as long as the other guy doesn't get knocked out early. I would love to see a rematch but it will probably never happen.

The Peterson Ortiz match was a joke. 2 knockdowns for ortiz and he lost on one judges score card and ties on the other 2? We they watching the same fight i was? I thought ortiz did more then enough to win that fight. Peterson had a nice rally in the middle rounds but just mathematically with a 10-7 round all you have to do is win 2 more rounds in a 10 round fight for the draw. I can't believe they didn't give him 5 rounds.
 
With the way that 10th round played out and Roach considering stopping the fight, I don't think a rematch happens anytime soon. I'd love to see Marcos fight the loser of Bradley/Alexander but IMHO I think he loses to both of them.

Speaking of that, I hope Devon is watching the tape of Bradley/Holt veryyyyy close.
 
I feel Maidana has a good chance against either Bradley or Devon.

Maidana would be the underdog if he faces either one of them, but he still has a good chance in my book.
 
Originally Posted by thacapt

I feel Maidana has a good chance against either Bradley or Devon.

Maidana would be the underdog if he faces either one of them, but he still has a good chance in my book.
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Originally Posted by thacapt

I feel Maidana has a good chance against either Bradley or Devon.

Maidana would be the underdog if he faces either one of them, but he still has a good chance in my book.
Agreed. He has a strong punch & a solid chin. I think he would give both these guys hell.

Damn shame he got robbed against Khan. I watched the fight again & scored it 113-112 for Maidana. I don't think Khan will do a rematch. After the beating he took, he'll look for other options.
 
A few ringside reporters had Ortiz losing by a point , Peterson fought well during the second half of the fight . Maidana will get the loser of Bradley - Alexander either way would be interesting cause neither of them are as big as Khan or as fast , but Bradley is a very smart cagey kind of guy , Alexander had a lot of trouble with Kotelnik and with the Pressure Maidana put on its a very dangerous fight .
Khan get the winner and dont be surprised if he is favored over Bradley or Devon . Either way you match them up you will get good fights .

How do you see Mares- Agbeko going ? should be a really good fight Mares reminds me of MAB a bit and Agbeko is just a very good all around fighter should be a war .

All promoters play favorites Khan is the cash cow it just how it is . We have all seen Don King go into the ring with his fighter and if his guy lost he would be walking out with the winner .lol Its a cold sport

Call me crazy but I think Hopkins traps and tricks Pascal and beats him . Hopkins is gonna walk him to straight right hands all night cause pascal likes to jump in .
 
Where Chad didn't take advantage of Pascal lunging, Hopkins will is how I see it.

I still had Khan winning by a point FWIW but it should have been stopped. That was just insane to me.

Mares/Agbeko depends on which Agbeko shows up...the one who will brawl and bully like he did with Vic and Perez the first time or the boxer we saw this weekend. I think he wins close.

BTW, Barrios is out of the Morales fight they are looking for a replacement.
 
Originally Posted by maddog345

Originally Posted by thacapt

I feel Maidana has a good chance against either Bradley or Devon.

Maidana would be the underdog if he faces either one of them, but he still has a good chance in my book.
Agreed. He has a strong punch & a solid chin. I think he would give both these guys hell.

Damn shame he got robbed against Khan. I watched the fight again & scored it 113-112 for Maidana. I don't think Khan will do a rematch. After the beating he took, he'll look for other options.
Yeah man. Like I said before, Cortez won the fight for Khan.

There was a reporter that even timed how long it took for Khan to throw a punch when he was basically out on his feet.

It was 1:33 that Khan got murdered and didn't throw a single punch. I guarantee you if it was the other way around Cortez would have stopped it.

And they not gonna put Khan in with Maidana again best believe that.
 
Originally Posted by Proshares

Where Chad didn't take advantage of Pascal lunging, Hopkins will is how I see it.

I still had Khan winning by a point FWIW but it should have been stopped. That was just insane to me.

Mares/Agbeko depends on which Agbeko shows up...the one who will brawl and bully like he did with Vic and Perez the first time or the boxer we saw this weekend. I think he wins close.

BTW, Barrios is out of the Morales fight they are looking for a replacement.
Pretty much what I was going to type.
 
Originally Posted by thacapt

I feel Maidana has a good chance against either Bradley or Devon.

Maidana would be the underdog if he faces either one of them, but he still has a good chance in my book.

I actually think Bradley would beat him convincingly being that he's a more rounder fighter then Khan, particularly when it comes to inside fighting which is where Khan was in the most trouble.  I'd say he'd have an easier time with Alexander. 
[h1]The 10th Round, An Overview, or, Why Compubox is Useless[/h1]
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Good article.  Compubox has been a joke for years...probably since it's inception, actually.  If you really want a laugh watch the first few rounds of Hopkins-Calzaghe in slow-motion and compare your numbers to Compubox. 
 
I wouldn't say shot but his power clearly hasn't come with him from 115 to 118. If he wants to keep winning, he's gotta head back to 115. Who is he beating at 118? Mares, Agbeko, Perez, Nonito and Montiel would all handle him at this point.
 
Anyone know who has Hopkins vs Pascal

HBO or Showtime


And Pac vs Mosely should be good....but everything pales in comparison at this point to Pac vs Floyd
 
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