09 Boxing Thread:: 12/12 Diaz.vs.Malignaggi HBO/Bradley.vs.Peterson Showtime
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just finished watching John/Juarez and Diaz/Marquez on nowboxing.com (another good site for vids btw)
Juarez made a late push but still not enough to win. I really thought John dictated the pace and threw the cleaner punches even when Juarez was making his runthe last couple rounds. Kinda reminds me of a JMM with less power. Ironically he beat JMM with a hometown decision.
JMM/Baby Bull... you guys commented enough about it... great fight
JMM arguably the no.1 lb 4 lb right now and Juan Diaz got the heart of a champion. Props for not giving up or clinching. Dude went down fighting
Juarez made a late push but still not enough to win. I really thought John dictated the pace and threw the cleaner punches even when Juarez was making his runthe last couple rounds. Kinda reminds me of a JMM with less power. Ironically he beat JMM with a hometown decision.
JMM/Baby Bull... you guys commented enough about it... great fight
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I found Sweet Pea/JCC...joint brings back soooooo many memories. My first time really gettin' into Boxing...back when my pops lived with us, i've neverheard him drop more F-bombs than he did that night.
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In the world of professional pugilism, there are boxers and there are fighters.
James Kirkland is a fighter.
He has always been a fighter, from his earliest days, from the time when, fatherless and dirt poor, he roamed the streets of East Austin.
"When I was growing up, we didn't always have the best of things, so I would always get in trouble," Kirkland said. "We didn't have it, we had to take it, we sure couldn't earn it. I was always fighting … my mom put all my brothers and me into boxing."
She steered him to local trainer Donald "Pops" Billingsley, who took him off the streets and into the gym, paying him $5 to spar other kids. Kirkland was just 6, but he took to Billingsley, and the sport, immediately.
"I just enjoyed being able to put my hands on somebody and not get in trouble about it," Kirkland said.
Billingsley became, in effect, the father Kirkland had never had. And it was in his gym that the young man met someone else who would have a profound effect on his life.
Ann Wolfe was homeless with two young children when she walked up to Billingsley in 1995 and said she wanted to learn to box. Billingsley was reluctant but relented; Wolfe blossomed into a powerful and feared fighter, a four-weight world champion whose 2004 one-punch knockout of Vonda Ward is a YouTube staple.
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AP Photo/Jae C. HongWorking with Ann Wolfe has helped bring out the best in James Kirkland.
No longer fighting, Wolfe has segued into training. As Kirkland's chief second, strategist and motivator, she has guided him to a professional record of 24-0 with 21 knockouts, a reputation as one of the most exciting prospects in the game and an HBO date on Saturday night (10 ET/PT) with fellow rising junior middleweight star Joel Julio.
Notwithstanding Wolfe's reputation as a fighter, Kirkland concedes that his being trained by a woman has raised some eyebrows.
"Believe it or not, man, there's a lot of people who go, 'How's a female going to be able to train a man to win a world title, or how she's gonna be able to teach him to do anything?'" Kirkland asked. "All I can say is, [it's easy] if a woman says for you to run five miles, and you look around and she's right behind you and she's running five miles, or she says to hit the bag for 10 rounds or get on the treadmill and she's right alongside doing the same thing with me. She's in there doing the same thing that I do."
Junior middleweight contender Ishe Smith, who sparred with Kirkland for a week in February, testifies that Wolfe and Kirkland have a training regime unlike that of most other fighters.
"They do all types of things, training I've never seen before, like dragging tires, all this military-type training," Smith said. "He trains real hard, and she trains him really hard."
Kirkland acknowledges the intensity and revels in it.
"Every time you get up and you're coming to the gym, you know you're coming to battle," he said. "Not as far as a fight in the ring but a fight as far as endurance, for your heart and your soul, how much effort you're going to put into it, because every part of your mind, body and soul, she's going to make you put it into a workout."
The way they train is reflected in the way Kirkland fights, according to Smith.
"If he learns to settle down, if he works on his craft a little bit, he's going to be very hard to beat for a lot of people," said the alum from Season 1 of "The Contender." "But he's very, very intense. If you hit him, he wants to hit you back."
There is perhaps no better example of Kirkland's "hit and be hit" style than his war with Allen Conyers in November 2007. Kirkland tore out of his corner and laid into his opponent with both fists -- only to walk into a pair of right hands that dropped him onto the seat of his pants.
As if enraged at Conyers' audacity, Kirkland bounced back up and resumed his assault, flooring Conyers twice and punishing him so badly that the contest was waved off before the first round was over.
His ferocious approach in the ring belies a polite and gentle demeanor outside the ropes, a contrast to the angry young boy Billingsley rescued from a life of street fighting and crime.
As Billingsley expressed it in HBO's "Real Lives" mini-documentary about Kirkland, "I've seen him change from a kind of thug into something better."
"Yeah, I'm a people person," Kirkland said.
That all changes when the bell sounds and the fight is on, when Kirkland becomes, as Wolfe has put it, "like a shark in blood-infested water."
It's a ferocity and intensity Kirkland believes will allow him to overwhelm whomever he fights, no matter their skill level or his own perceived weaknesses.
"People always say I don't have enough defense or I get hit with too many right hands or they say this or say that," he said. "But every time, eventually, in the later rounds or whenever it may be, they all get caught. They all get hurt."
He expects nothing different Saturday.
"When I see Julio fight, I think he's a pretty good cat, he does his thing real well," Kirkland said. "But y'all are going to see March 7 what goes down, and I don't see it going past six rounds. He's a good fighter, and I hope he's coming prepared. Because I know I'm coming prepared."
That much is certain. Kirkland has been prepared since he was 6 years old.
He was a fighter then, and he's a fighter still
had no idea dude was trained by a %+*%@
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Ann Wolf looks like she can eat me for breakfast
Pac-Hatton UK wrap up:
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so this $#+#%*! bum hasim rahman has decided he wants to be an mma fighter now
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Kronk Gym star killed in his home
The Associated Press
Posted: 03/03/2009 10:55:05 PM PST
MELVINDALE, Mich.-Boxer Mickey Goodwin was found bludgeoned to death Tuesday.
Melvindale police Lt. Keith Guyot told the Detroit Free Press that the 50-year-old Goodwin's body was found about 5 p.m. in the home he shared with his mother. Police said his mother wasn't home at the time, but they declined to release other details.
Goodwin was trained at Detroit's Kronk Gym by Emanuel Steward, who also trained Thomas Hearns and Hilmer Kenty. Goodwin won the Golden Gloves title in 1975 and turned pro two years later, compiling a 40-2-1 record with 28 knockouts as a light heavyweight.
Goodwin, however, never won a championship. After a draw and a loss in 1985, he went eight years before his next fight, then and won seven straight bouts, the last on Nov. 29, 1994.
RIP
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What's with the bias title? Not cool.
[h2]Guerrero finding his groove again[/h2]
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AP Photo/Jeff ChiuBalancing act: Robert Guerrero makes juggling fatherhood and fighting look easy.
It must have been a wise old boxing manager who first said, "It's tough to wake up for roadwork when you're wearing silk pajamas."
If he were handling Robert Guerrero, the same manager might have added, "And no matter what type of pajamas you're wearing, it's even tougher to wake up for roadwork when you've spent the night sleeping on the floor of a hospital room."
There's a temptation to decide that life stinks for Guerrero, and not only because "The Ghost" lives in Gilroy, Calif. -- the garlic capital of the world.
Guerrero, 25, is a former two-time featherweight titlist, a fighter with unmistakable star potential and an earnest, spiritual young man. But you don't hear him complaining about his tasks at hand: changing diapers, cooking dinner and trading punches with world-class junior lightweights while his wife, Casey, fights leukemia.
On Saturday, Guerrero (23-1-1) will meet unbeaten Indonesian Daud Yordan (23-0) in San Jose, just 10 minutes from Gilroy. Given the unique pressure he's facing, The Ghost would be excused if he disappeared until fight time. But he's been hit by twice as many media requests as usual and he's answered every one of them, despite the fact that Casey's cancer, which had been in remission for more than a year, recurred in January.
The latest report: The cancer is again in remission.
"I can't think of anyone who's been able to do what Robert's been doing," said Mario Serrano, Guerrero's publicist. "He spoke at a high school last week about staying fit and overcoming adversity, then hurried over to [television station] CBS 5 for an in-studio interview, followed by his daily training. Let's not forget he has two children to attend to in addition to taking care of his wife."
High school sweethearts, Robert and Casey have been married for four years. Their family includes a 3-year-old daughter and a 2-year-old son.
Late in 2007, Casey was diagnosed while Guerrero was one week away from a defense against Martin Honorio in Tucson, Ariz.
"It's a big shock when they tell you your wife has cancer and they don't know if she's going to die," Guerrero's father and trainer, Ruben, told The Associated Press at the time.
Guerrero flew to Tucson, scaled two pounds over the limit, dropped the weight and then dropped Honorio in 56 seconds. He flew home the same night.
He since has knocked out Jason Litzau, vacated the title because of his struggles to make weight and, in his first bout at junior lightweight, crushed Edel Ruiz with a single body shot in 43 seconds.
"It came down to where I was focusing on making weight and not getting ready for the fight," said Guerrero, who walks around at about 139 pounds. "I didn't want to have to kill myself making weight and go into my fights with no energy."
Long-range, Guerrero is targeting 130-pound titlist Humberto Soto. This week, he's preparing for Yordan, who'll be fighting in the United States for the second time; in September, Yordan won an eight-round majority decision over Mexican Antonio Meza in Las Vegas.
"I've seen Yordan only once, to tell you the truth," Guerrero said. "I thought he lost the fight [to Meza]. He has an Olympics boxing style, with quick hands. I'll be attacking."
What's most remarkable is that when Guerrero needs to focus on boxing, his concentration remains intense. In breaking down Litzau, he fought with a half-grin that suggested he was thoroughly enjoying the beating.
"This is how I make my living," Guerrero said. "Watching how Casey goes through everything, it's inspiring. When I get to the gym, what I have to do is nothing compared to what cancer patients go through. That gets me motivated to perform.
"And she gets on me. If I'm late to the gym or for my run, she says, 'You gotta do your job.' Being a young guy, you always want to go out, have fun, vacation, hang with your friends. But since Casey's been sick, I've had to step up. It's made me grow up a lot."
Thousands of people suffer from leukemia and undergo debilitating sessions of chemotherapy. But very few go through the ordeal publicly. For 16 months, Guerrero and his wife have had no secrets.
"I've gotten a lot of support from fans, the media, the members of my team," Guerrero said. "It's comforting to know there are boxing fans out there who care about my personal life, too. They've put me in their prayers."
Maybe that's why Guerrero -- husband, father and fighter -- feels stronger than he's ever been.
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[h1]Hatton predicts change of style[/h1]
Mar 2, 3:25 pm EST
LONDON (AP)-Ricky Hatton knows his bulldozing style of fighting won't be good enough to beat Manny Pacquiao in Las Vegas on May 2. Instead, he will relyon hand speed and punching power.
A former world light-welterweight champion who has never lost at 140 pounds, Hatton is taking on a fighter who moved up two weight divisions to easily beatOscar De La Hoya at 147 pounds in December.
A powerful body puncher, Hatton (45-1) used his straight ahead, aggressive style to stop Kostya Tszyu for the IBF title in June 2005. But he will need moreto beat a fast fighter who is considered the best pound-for-pound boxer in the world.
For Hatton that means he'll need a repeat of the performance that stopped Paul Malignaggi in 11 rounds in November, the British fighter's firstfight since losing for the first time to Floyd Mayweather Jr.
"Kostya was a great punching powerhouse but I bulldozed him into submission," Hatton said Monday. "But in my last fight against Malignaggi,who is a speed merchant, I ended up out-boxing him and out-speeding him. In the end I beat him up.
"The Ricky Hatton of old would have put his head down and steamed in at 100 mph without a lot of thought on how to do it," he said. "I'veno doubt Manny's speed will cause me problems but they said that about Malignaggi."
Hatton and Pacquiao (48-3-2) were at London's Imperial War Museum to help sell the contest to British fight fans although Hatton is expected to haveseveral thousand supporters at the MGM Grand Garden.
Despite Hatton's insistence he will change his approach, Pacquaio's trainer, Freddie Roach, said it wouldn't take him long to go back to his oldways.
"It will be a great fight in the first half but Manny will get to him in the later rounds and will knock him out at some point," Roach said."Ricky is very resilient but his come-forward nature will walk him into some shots and that will get him out of there. He's tailor made for us.
I don't think you can change Ricky Hatton at this point in his career. Once he gets hit, he'll lose composure and revert to what he does best andthat's fight," Roach said.
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LONDON (AP)-Ricky Hatton knows his bulldozing style of fighting won't be good enough to beat Manny Pacquiao in Las Vegas on May 2. Instead, he will relyon hand speed and punching power.
A former world light-welterweight champion who has never lost at 140 pounds, Hatton is taking on a fighter who moved up two weight divisions to easily beatOscar De La Hoya at 147 pounds in December.
A powerful body puncher, Hatton (45-1) used his straight ahead, aggressive style to stop Kostya Tszyu for the IBF title in June 2005. But he will need moreto beat a fast fighter who is considered the best pound-for-pound boxer in the world.
For Hatton that means he'll need a repeat of the performance that stopped Paul Malignaggi in 11 rounds in November, the British fighter's firstfight since losing for the first time to Floyd Mayweather Jr.
"Kostya was a great punching powerhouse but I bulldozed him into submission," Hatton said Monday. "But in my last fight against Malignaggi,who is a speed merchant, I ended up out-boxing him and out-speeding him. In the end I beat him up.
"The Ricky Hatton of old would have put his head down and steamed in at 100 mph without a lot of thought on how to do it," he said. "I'veno doubt Manny's speed will cause me problems but they said that about Malignaggi."
Hatton and Pacquiao (48-3-2) were at London's Imperial War Museum to help sell the contest to British fight fans although Hatton is expected to haveseveral thousand supporters at the MGM Grand Garden.
Despite Hatton's insistence he will change his approach, Pacquaio's trainer, Freddie Roach, said it wouldn't take him long to go back to his oldways.
"It will be a great fight in the first half but Manny will get to him in the later rounds and will knock him out at some point," Roach said."Ricky is very resilient but his come-forward nature will walk him into some shots and that will get him out of there. He's tailor made for us.
I don't think you can change Ricky Hatton at this point in his career. Once he gets hit, he'll lose composure and revert to what he does best andthat's fight," Roach said.
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Castillo-Corrales I is about to be shown on Shotime 2 in about 10 minutes
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DVR set.
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i didnt even remember JMM on the undercard of this fight
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Castillo-Corrales I is about to be shown on Shotime 2 in about 10 minutes
just missed it.
but damn, showtime was showing this +$@@ in HD
wish i had my dvr set
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"Weeks steps in, and the fight is over!" to this day, i get goosebumps everytime i hear that. Diego Corrales, I *#*+@%$ love you... RIP!
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I'm torn to think the JMM/Mayweather fight could happen. I think it would generate ENOUGH ppv buys for May and he'd get a big enough share (65/35?) tobe interested, but I think he would wanna hold out for something bigger. Bigger being that he could still win. What that fight is, I don't know.
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Was in Vegas for the DLH/Mayweather fight and remember waking up the day after and flipping on the local news and hearing about the crash. Sad.
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Winky over there trying to phone someone about the fight
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I'm going to try and make it as well. I've been wanting to go to MSG for a fight and I'm sure there would be a great atmosphere forthis.
