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He's only fought Wright and Kolle at middleweight, so yea, I agree that 168 might be pushing it which is why the Pavlik fight would have been a great test.
09 Boxing Thread:: 12/12 Diaz.vs.Malignaggi HBO/Bradley.vs.Peterson Showtime
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It cant be no worse than seein JT laid out doin the Young Jocc Dance... *shrugs*
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Its too many guys infront of Paul at 168 and HBO/Al Heymon would probably have problem with it
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yea I know. I just wanna see the young man fight. he's at least entertaining as hell to watch. feel me.
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Wish they could just give that date to Shane/Berto. (If they cant find a replacement for Pavlik).
Prolly too late to book a venue and do the proper promotion tho.
Prolly too late to book a venue and do the proper promotion tho.
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WOW +#%
WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS $+!@ AN HOUR AGO.
I HATE PAVLIK. THAT POS.
WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS $+!@ AN HOUR AGO.
I HATE PAVLIK. THAT POS.
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I honestly dont see Andre Berto winning another fight
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Make it happen like lil cease
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Sergio and Williams
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getting my money back as we speak.
update: wont refund it until they receive notice. Im like but you guys took it down from the site. Hes like yea its temporarily unavailable but we haventreceived any information regarding refunds
update: wont refund it until they receive notice. Im like but you guys took it down from the site. Hes like yea its temporarily unavailable but we haventreceived any information regarding refunds
Come on, he's still got all the talent in the world. He just needs to someone to slap the hell out of him and tell him to focus on boxing.
Way too late by now, the only way Shane fights on that day is if he gets matched with Clottey. And they're not going to do that to Berto.
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If Dzinziruk doesn't get the fight, I think he's leaving Universum and coming to the US to find promotion. He's was the first one who was supposedto fight PW after the Winky fight and his promoter over priced him.
I think Sergio would be fine with a fight at 160, it'll probably be his biggest payday.
But if he doesn't fight PW at a later date, Kelly is done at 160. All the money fights for him are at 168. Who's going to pay to watch him fight thelikes of Felix Sturm?
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Random, but from yesterday's NY Daily News:
Executioner's song
Don't count on Bernard Hopkins showing up at a UFC event anytime soon. The Philadelphian boxinggreat doesn't think too highly of mixed martial arts' fighters … especially their garb.
"Everybody is different but I don't want to watch two grown men wrestling with panties on," Hopkins recently told BoxingScene.com.
"I'm from the hood, we don't play that."
Executioner's song
Don't count on Bernard Hopkins showing up at a UFC event anytime soon. The Philadelphian boxinggreat doesn't think too highly of mixed martial arts' fighters … especially their garb.
"Everybody is different but I don't want to watch two grown men wrestling with panties on," Hopkins recently told BoxingScene.com.
"I'm from the hood, we don't play that."
[h2]John in hospital with dengue fever[/h2]
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Featherweight titlist Chris John is in the hospital in his native Indonesia battling a case of dengue fever, adviser Sampson Lewkowicz told ESPN.com on Saturday.
"It is not life or training threatening and [John] will return to training shortly," Lewkowicz said.
Dengue fever is a virus-based disease typically spread by mosquitoes.
Lewkowicz said John has been hospitalized for three days. He said John, 30, is planning to attend to the WBA's annual convention, which begins Nov. 16 in Colombia. After that, John is "looking forward to making his 13th title defense sometime around May 2010," Lewkowicz said.
John (43-0-02, 22 KOs) easily outpointed Rocky Juarez in his last fight on Sept. 19 in Las Vegas on the Floyd Mayweather-Juan Manuel Marquez undercard. It was a rematch of their disputed Feb. 28 draw in Juarez's hometown of Houston.
John, who has held a world title since 2003, suffered a fainting spell in June because of a blood disorder. He was forced to withdraw from the rematch with Juarez.
[h2]Pavlik says nearly dies from medication[/h2]
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NEW YORK -- Kelly Pavlik's life was in peril.
An allergic reaction to medication had caused the middleweight champion's temperature to soar past 104 degrees, and his heart rate to 150 beats a minute. When he was finally admitted to the hospital, the sweat was pouring off his body, which had turned shades of red and purple.
An infectious diseases specialist at the Cleveland Clinic told his father, Mike Pavlik, that the 27-year-old fighter had better keep fighting. The outlook was grim.
"I'm not a medical man," Mike Pavlik said, "but he was really close to the edge that day."
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Jed Jacobsohn/Getty Images"I don't remember that day, that's how bad it was," Kelly Pavlik said of his allergic reaction. "They told me it was pretty serious. It was the worst form of reaction you could have."
What began as a small staph infection on the knuckle of his left hand, where Pavlik had received a cortisone injection, had somehow spiraled to this: A strapping young man who makes his living relentlessly pushing his body to the extreme was bedridden, his wife Samantha keeping vigil over him while doctors figured out what went wrong.
Pavlik says he doesn't remember everything that happened last month, only bits and pieces.
He recalls a doctor telling him that he wasn't going home right away, and that every step he took toward the emergency ward was more difficult than the last. He remembers his skin crawling, his heart feeling like it would jump right out of his chest.
He doesn't remember the steroids doctors gave him to make the reaction subside.
"I don't remember that day, that's how bad it was," Pavlik told The Associated Press. "They told me it was pretty serious. It was the worst form of reaction you could have."
It was also the lowest point in a summer of misfortune.
The staph infection appeared after Pavlik defeated Marco Antonio Rubio, a tough but woefully overmatched opponent, before an admiring crowd in Pavlik's hometown of Youngstown, Ohio.
He was playing basketball on a warm March day when the knuckle split open. After a few minutes, Pavlik looked down to see a colorless ooze where there should have been blood, and a trip to the doctor confirmed the bacteria.
A month went by and antibiotics weren't doing their job, so Pavlik had surgery in Youngstown to clean out the infection. When the stitches were removed, the hole was still there. Further tests revealed MRSA, a sometimes fatal strain of staph that resists broad-spectrum antibiotics.
"I was ready to say right there, chop the hand off," Pavlik said.
In the meantime, months of tough negotiations had resulted in an agreement between Pavlik and feared puncher Paul Williams. They would meet in early October in Atlantic City, with Pavlik guaranteed millions and both getting the HBO exposure every fighter covets.
The staph infection still wasn't getting better, though, and the fight was pushed back to Dec. 5. Williams and his promoter, Dan Goossen, were willing to work with Pavlik after seeing optimistic test results from the clinic. Doctors believed the infection would clear up and Pavlik could begin punching in mid-October, giving him time to prepare for the fight.
Then came the allergic reaction and trip to the hospital, just before Pavlik was supposed to leave for New Jersey and a news conference to officially announce the fight.
"We learned our lesson once already when he went into a fight not feeling well," Mike Pavlik said, referring to his son's loss to Bernard Hopkins, when he became ill a couple days before the bout. "And we vowed we wouldn't do it again."
Still, Pavlik said he felt obligated to go through with the Williams fight. People were counting on him, and he was told by doctors that he'd be fine, even if he wasn't so sure.
"Since I started training, it was in my mind the whole time," Pavlik said. "It feels stiff, I ain't able to hit anything. I think my trainer was waiting for the moment when it just closes, but there was just no way to do it."
The infection had cleared up, but the surgeries were keeping Pavlik from closing his left hand. On Wednesday, trainer Jack Loew finally called off the fight.
Losing out on a big payday, the hospital trips, the allergic reaction -- all of it was frustrating. What bothers Pavlik the most, though, is that some fans don't believe any of it.
There are rumors he doesn't want to fight Williams, or fight at all. That he's holding out for more money, or to take Jermain Taylor's place in the Super Six tournament. Those who once called him a working-class hope have turned their backs, which happens quickly and easily when you carry a small town on your broad shoulders.
"There's nothing you can do about it," Pavlik said. "I'll sleep, eat well at night. I know the truth. But my dad, the guys in camp who now what's going on, it's hard on them."
Williams will face another opponent on Dec. 5, and Pavlik hopes he'll be able to fight him early next year -- "I'll be nervous on the fifth," he said.
Until then, the middleweight champion is left to ponder his summer of misfortune.
"I want to fight, and people question because I've been inactive, but there's goals I want to accomplish," he said. "It does feel like wasted time, where I could be out accomplishing a lot. And one big fight could sum up that big accomplishment."
[h1]Cruiserweight Adamek aspires to conquer the heavyweights[/h1]
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Updated: October 24, 2009, 5:37 PM ET
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Tomasz Adamek, left, will face the biggest test of his career in Andrew Golota.
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When the going gets tough, Andrew Golota usually finds a way to excuse himself from a fight.
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A win over Andrew Golota will make Tomasz Adamek one of Poland's brightest stars.
« Tough task | Brittle man | Polish pride »
[h3]Adamek testing the heavyweight waters[/h3]
Cruiserweight champion Tomasz Adamek couldn't get Bernard Hopkins into the ring, so he's taking the leap that many cruiserweights have taken.
He's going to test the waters at heavyweight by facing Polish countryman Andrew Golota on Saturday in a 15,000-seat arena in Lodz, Poland, about 85 miles from Warsaw.
Although the 41-year-old Golota has long worn out his welcome in most places, in their country the bout is a big deal, referred to as the "Polish Fight of the Century." That's even though Golota has always disappointed in his biggest fights, going 0-3-1 in heavyweight title shots, quitting against Mike Tyson and twice getting disqualified against Riddick Bowe.
[h4]How big is Adamek-Golota in Poland?[/h4]
Some stats on Saturday's fight dubbed the "Polish Fight of the Century":
- • It will be the biggest audience ever (15,000-plus) to watch an event in Poland's biggest arena, Arena Lodz in Lodz.
- • Golota's 1998 fight with Tim Witherspoon generated Poland's largest TV audience ever, which exceeded a 2005 visit by Pop John Paul II. Polsat expects this fight to break the record.
- • Polsat predicted that 1 in every 4 Poles will watch the fight with viewership expected to exceed 10 million in a nation with a population of approximately 40 million.
- • The card will be a five-hour live televised program, which will begin on cable and switch to terrestrial TV on Polsat, Poland's biggest network. The only other time that has been done was when Poland played in the World Cup.
- • Polsat will use 23 HD cameras to cover the fight.
"Golota and Adamek are fighting for something bigger than a world championship or money. They're fighting for country," said Don King, who promotes Golota and used to promote Adamek. "In Poland, this fight will compare to our Super Bowl or the World Cup in terms of demand and attention."
Although Adamek is moving up in weight for the fight, he isn't necessarily leaving the cruiserweight division for good. He did vacate his alphabet title this week when, according Main Events promoter Kathy Duva, the IBF refused to grant him an exception in order to face Golota. However, Adamek still holds the Ring magazine title, which represents his status as the lineal champion, and he has not closed the door on returning to the 200-pound division after the Golota fight, win or lose.
"Nobody can take away my Ring belt without beating me in the ring and that will not happen," Adamek said. "I'm open to [fighting the best] cruiserweights in the world if this is what television [networks] and the fans want me to do. Can you be the best cruiserweight in the world and try to be best heavyweight? Why not?"
Said Duva: "He holds something very valuable and he is not going to give it away. He doesn't have to make any decisions right now. Tomasz is very comfortable at both weights. It's a win-win situation. We want to keep all our options open."
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Tomasz Adamek had to part ways with a belt in order to fight Andrew Golota at heavyweight.
Adamek's lone defeat came via decision when he lost his light heavyweight belt to Chad Dawson in 2007. Since then, Adamek has campaigned as a cruiserweight, winning seven fights in a row. He also claimed the world title with a stirring point victory against Steve Cunningham in a 2008 fight of the year candidate and has defended the title twice.
Cunningham is Adamek's mandatory challenger, and Duva and Adamek have expressed interest in the rematch. However, fights with Hopkins or Golota were far more lucrative. When the bout with Hopkins couldn't be finalized, they opted for Golota. Cunningham, meanwhile, has been ordered to face Matt Godfrey for the vacant alphabet belt.
Adamek said he has no concerns with putting on the additional weight to fight Golota.
"Right now I weigh 215," said Adamek, 32, who makes his home in New Jersey now. "That is a very comfortable weight for me, very natural. I feel very good, in great shape. I can fight either cruiserweight or heavyweight. My natural weight is 215, so if more heavyweight fights can be made that would be good. We do not see any good cruiserweight proposals being made.
"Maybe next year at the same time I can have a fight with the Klitschkos. It is my dream to be a champion in this category. In the heavyweight division whoever is smarter and faster can win. I am not afraid of anybody. I always believed that [the] world belongs to those not afraid of taking a risk. I'm ready to take my chances, I'm prepared mentally and physically to be a great heavyweight."
Golota, who weighed in Friday at a career heavy 256 pounds to Adamek's 214.2 pounds, said Adamek is in for a rude awakening.
"If somebody asks to me to dance, I never say no, and this was Adamek's idea -- not mine," Golota said. "So I said, 'Why not?' He has never fought anybody from the heavyweight division, and has no idea how hard we can hit."
Sam Colonna, Golota's trainer, has worked fights as an assistant in Adamek's corner, and knows how tough he is.
"[Golota] has to be busy because Adamek is one of the toughest fighters I ever saw in my life," Colonna said. "I will never forget the smell of blood when Adamek was fighting Paul Briggs the first time [to win a vacant light heavyweight title in 2005]. He fought 12 rounds with the broken nose, an injury he sustained two weeks before fight. We went through four towels just to get the blood from his face between the rounds. But Andrew can be the same way. He fought Mike Mollo with one eye, another one completely closed and begging doctors to not stop the fight."
Adamek (38-1, 26 KOs) and Golota (41-7-1, 33 KOs), idle since retiring after the first round with a left biceps injury against Ray Austin in November 2008, are friendly and have boxed on the same card together before. But this is business.
"Golota is my friend, but you know Andrew is a little bit older. I am younger," Adamek said. "Maybe Andrew has one or two fights more and that's it. Maybe it's my turn next, but after me there will be someone younger. That's the way it goes. "
[h3]Martinez for Williams?[/h3]
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Able-bodied: Sergio Martinez is willing and more than ready to fight Paul Williams.
Although the Dec. 5 Kelly Pavlik-Paul Williams middleweight championship fight is down the tubes, called off Wednesday because of Pavlik's ongoing left hand problem, Williams will still fight on that date and headline an HBO "World Championship Boxing" card, according to HBO Sports president Ross Greenburg.
However, promoter Dan Goossen must find a new opponent for Williams, as well as a new venue since Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, N.J., is not interested; Pavlik was the big draw there. The most likely opponent is junior middleweight titlist Sergio Martinez, who was being lined up to fight in an untelevised HBO undercard fight on either Dec. 5 or 12 as an insurance policy in case Pavlik's hand injury forced him out of the fight, which it did.
"We're ready, willing and able to fight Williams and there is nobody in the world who will give him a more difficult fight at 154 pounds than Sergio," Lou DiBella, Martinez's promoter, said. "These are the two best lefties in the division, the two best guys in the division. I don't think it's an easy fight for Williams or for Sergio. I've had preliminary discussions with Goossen. I knew the Williams people and HBO wanted us on one of those undercards in December in case of this eventuality with Pavlik. Sergio was getting ready to fight a southpaw just in case. We had always been kept in mind as the insurance policy. Now they need someone and we're deal makers not deal breakers but if they think Martinez is coming for ham sandwich, they're wrong. Come with a proper offer and we'll make the fight in two seconds."
Goossen is also talking to Universum, which promotes titleholder Sergei Dzindziruk. Williams holds the interim version of the title and is the mandatory challenger.
"Goossen said, 'I can always make Williams with Dzindziruk,'" DiBella said. "I think it was Goossen's way of badly starting negotiations for a Martinez fight."
I can't find an article but I know Adamek KOed that no heart having fool Golota in 5.
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Am I the only one that rather see punisher fight Sergei?
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I know Pro is seein this %!%!
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Yeah i'm reading that. he provided a boxingtalk link with shane saying "i'll ruin berto's career"
Too bad i can't read the whole story, gotta pay to be a member inboxingtalk
He said I'll whoop your $$* homeboy and in my head I starting singing "I'll whip yo head boy, that's for Kanye West."
But that's Shane lately though. He beat the #1 welter and can't get a fight. They'll get the fight done eventually.
Berto and Paul about to become best friends on Twitter.
But that's Shane lately though. He beat the #1 welter and can't get a fight. They'll get the fight done eventually.
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did they refund yo money yet?
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LOL
