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jt needs to back to emmanuel ... and dirrell needs to get a mayweather as a coach lol.


i hate going to the cards .... there will be a knockout in cotto/pac .. i still dont see how pac will survive that fight ... cotto should feast if the weightloss isnt too much .
 
Originally Posted by bobby1109

Yea man that's sad to hear. I don't like JT from since he beat Bernard but you can't wish bad on the guy and you gotta hope he's ok. My advice would be to pull out and think about what you want to do. You have enough money in the bank to keep yourself afloat for a long time. Take some time off and think about what you want to do. Put that +$$## +++ $@$%@#%@**!% Allan Green in and have someone KO him. Or even better put Bika in there, he'll make some good fights. Or even better put the winner of Bute/Andrade...
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Allan Green would be the 1st alternate if someone dropped out.

And yes, I would love someone to drop that clown.
 
well, i went from mad to sad because of the Angels loss.. lol... Congrats Proshares, at least Brits in Manhattan will be thanking ARod since you wont bekilling them, hhaha...

Hope for the best for JT. Yeah, it was fun poking jokes at the KO, but you never ever ever want to see someone hurt bad. He's had 3 KO's in his last4 or 5 fights or something... he should just hang it up for health reasons. He's had a career that he can be proud off.. his losses weren't againstscrubs but legitimate champs.


Dirrell... *sigh* hometown decision aside, this is what i think he needs to improve: i think he got to work on his distancing. I mentioned earlier, hethrows his punches way too far... so Froch can telegraph that lead leg stepping in when throws punches. His hands are snappy and fast, but won't do anydamage if your far away .. I see a little Money May in him.. but money may times his punches good... thats because he's got good distancing. See thatknock down on JMM... he got closer, and closer, then threw a short left hook. He didn't need to step in anymore.
 
Damn I wanted Taylor to beat Abraham
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I can't stand that hack styleof his but I guess he has enough power to make it effective.

Anyway, I thought Taylor had the right idea by using the jab a lot to keep him out of range but he didn't throw nearly enough right hands or throw incombination. Taylor should probably retire and maybe Green could replace him since I believe he's available as an alternate. Not sure how points wouldwork in this situation, though.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who think Dirrell was robbed. I mean 2 of the 3 judges has him winning (how in the world can you give Froch 7 rounds at115-112), 2 of the 3 at press row had Froch winning, and Bernstein was basically saying it was close to even. I was wondering if I was the crazy one because Ididn't think Froch won more then 4 rounds.
 
Originally Posted by JazzyJeff88

i put sum on cotto for the fight on 9/14...good move..?...yay or nay?..based my decision jus cuz imma cotto fan
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Being that Cotto is a 2:1 underdog I think it's a descent bet.
 
http://twitter.com/andredirrell
andredirrell @R32NicoGTR it won't be a split I can promise you that. How will thT happen if he can't hit me the while fight, but thanks anyway bro12:22 PM Oct 13th from Echofon in reply to R32NicoGTR
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http://twitter.com/R32NicoGTR/status/4826920280 andredirrell @R32NicoGTR no I believe you, I just don't see it still if he can't hit me you know. I don't see them cheating me either ya digg, thanksbro3:03 PM Oct 13th from Echofon in reply to R32NicoGTR
http://twitter.com/R32NicoGTR/status/4828038913 Dre'sreply to me on twitter a few days ago. I tweeted to him that he gotta KO Froch to avoid a hometown decision...
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Goossen's idea on how to replace Taylor in Super Six

Sunday, October 18, 2009 | Print Entry

Although nothing has been officially determined regarding the status of Jermain Taylor going forward in the Super Six World Boxing Classic in the wake of his brutal 12th-round knockout to Arthur Abraham on Saturday night in Berlin, it won't come as any surprise if Taylor drops out.

After suffering his fourth loss in his past five fights, including three by punishing knockout, Taylor is hospitalized in Germany suffering from a severe concussion and short-term memory loss. He is expected to remain there for several days, according to his promoter, Lou DiBella.

Frankly, Taylor probably should not continue in the tournament for the good of his health.

Kelly Pavlik relieved Taylor of the middleweight championship on a scary seventh-round knockout in September 2007. Three fights later, Carl Froch rallied for a big knockout win to retain his super middleweight belt with 14 seconds left in April in a fight Taylor had been leading. And then Abraham, seemingly en route to a routine decision victory, landed a flush right hand to Taylor's chin and put him to sleep yet again.

Taylor's next fight in the tournament's Group Stage 2 would be in the spring against Andre Ward followed by a fall Group Stage 3 fight against Mikkel Kessler. Taylor, the longest shot to win the six-man modified round-robin when the field was announced, would certainly be an underdog in both fights with little chance to reach the semifinals.

All along, Showtime has mentioned Allan Green -- who, like Taylor, is promoted by DiBella -- as a possible first alternate in the event a fighter dropped out of the tournament.

Under the master contract for the tournament, it is Showtime's call when it comes to designating any replacement fighter, who would enter the tournament with the same number of points earned by the tournament's lowest point-earner through the same number of bouts as the departing fighter. That would mean if somebody replaces Taylor, he would enter the field with 0 points. The four highest point-earners advance to the semis.

For what it's worth, Showtime also has the contractual right to continue the tournament without naming a replacement.

Green is a solid contender, but looked terrible in his last fight when he won a lethargic decision against Tarvis Simms on Oct. 2, a fight Showtime televised on "ShoBox" as a way to keep Green warm in the bullpen in case he was needed for the tournament. But his performance certainly didn't turn any heads or help his case that he should be the clear choice as a replacement.

However, Dan Goossen, who promotes Ward, had an interesting idea about how to pick a replacement if one is needed.

Along with Seminole Warriors Boxing, Goossen co-promotes Edison Miranda, who owns a clear 2007 unanimous-decision victory against Green. Miranda has also faced two tournament entrants and gone 0-3. He faced Abraham twice, losing a highly controversial decision to him in a middleweight title bout in 2006 and getting knocked out in a super middleweight nontitle fight in the 2008 rematch. In May, he lost a decision to Ward.

What Goossen proposed to me Sunday was that Green (29-1, 20 KOs) and Miranda (32-4, 28 KOs) hook up in a rematch to determine a replacement (if one is needed) on the Nov. 21 Showtime telecast featuring the Kessler-Ward Super Six fight in the main event.

It's not the worst idea I've heard, even though Miranda has already lost to a quarter of the field. But why should Green get a pass into the tournament when Miranda owns that clear decision against him?

Although Miranda is a limited fighter, one thing's for sure: He has the power to knock anyone out and he makes fun, exciting fights, which is what we all want to see in the tournament.

Miranda, who is now being trained by Goossen's brother, the underrated Joe Goossen, is scheduled to fight Francisco Sierra (20-2, 19 KOs) on Thursday in Lemoore, Calif. Dan Goossen said he'd like to have Miranda go through with the fight and then do a rematch with Green next month.

Just food for thought.
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I don't care for either one of them but the idea isn't bad. But if you're going to take the winner of a re-match, why would you not look in thedirection of Bute/Andrade and take that winner? Add another title belt into the mix.
 
During the course of the weekend, I spoke with promoter Dan Goossen to get his thoughts on the first two fights of the Super Six World Classic Classic. The obvious question on my mind was to get his opinion on whether or not Jermain Taylor should continue with the remainder of the Super Six round-robin tournament. Arthur Abraham knocked Taylor out in brutal fashion in the twelfth round of their fight on Saturday in Berlin.

Andre Ward, who is promoted by Goossen, is the next scheduled opponent for Taylor in the second stage of the Super Six. Taylor suffered a bad concussion and spent the night in a local hospital. It was the second consecutive knockout loss for Taylor and his fourth defeat in his last five fights.

There are many people out there, media and fans, pleading with Taylor to retire. I won't go that far but I'm not confident about his chances against Ward. Taylor, if matched the right way, can still be a force. I remember back in 2001/2002, Oleg Maskaev suffered three very bad knockouts to Cory "T-Rex" Sanders, Lance Whitaker and Kirk Johnson. He was out cold in all three defeats. Everyone, including his own management and trainer, called him a shot fighter and begged him to retire. He didn't listen. He simply continued to march forward. He won his next eleven fights, knocked out Hasim Rahman to win the WBC heavyweight title and made a few million along the way.

I thought Taylor had some serious problems a few years ago with a fast slickster by the name of Cory Spinks. There were a lot of people I respect who scored the fight for Spinks. Ward is much bigger and stronger but just as good, if not better, of a slickster in the ring. Goossen thought Taylor put forth an honest effort against Abraham and made the fight competitive. He doesn't think Taylor displayed the characteristics of a shot fighter.

"Up until the final ten seconds or so, it was a competitive fight. A lot of fighters have suffered losses like this and came back," Goossen said.

Goossen believes it is a bit premature to discuss a replacement for Taylor. If Taylor decides to step away from the tournament, Goossen had an idea for a box-off to determine the replacement. He would like to see a box-off between Allan Green and Edison Miranda, who is now co-promoted by Goossen and Warriors Boxing. Miranda handed Green the only loss of his career, by decision, in 2007.

I spoke to Green on Sunday night. For obvious reasons, he doesn't have any interest in a box-off with Miranda. I can't blame him in this particular situation. Green claims Showtime has already promised him the first crack at replacing one of the Super Six participants. I have to agree that his last performance against Tarvis Simms was not exactly a fight of the year candidate. At the same time, Green did secure his slot in the Super Six. So why take a chance against a dangerous puncher like Miranda?

If Green does replace Taylor, there is already a bit of history with Ward. The two sides exchanged some heated comments on this very website a few months ago. Ward's team was upset over a comment Green made to BoxingScene with respect to Andre's punching power.

"I'm not doing any box-off. They already said I was the guy if something happened. Why is everybody in my business? This tournament was built on America vs. Europe and Miranda is not American. Who did Ward beat to get in this tournament? Taylor got knocked out in his last fight and got in the tournament. He made the tournament off a knockout loss. Who did Dirrell beat to get in there? Victor Oganov? It doesnt make any sense so people shouldn't say I have to do anything. When it comes to Allan Green, I always have to jump through hoops. When it comes to me it's always something. Trust me, Goossen does not want to see me in there with Ward," Green told BoxingScene.com
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Could they stick the winner of Bute - Andrade in there ? I would make sense as the IBF strap is there and they fight just a few days after Kessler -Ward so thetime frame would work out
 
I still don't see how Froch won this fight at all. Maybe I need to rewatch it again, but I stick by my scoring. As much as he complained he still landedthe cleaner shots and this running away talk? He was dodging and ducking almost all of Carl's hard punches. I don't see him beating Arthur in hisnext fight though...

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    Andre Dirrell, left, suffered the first loss of his career at the hands of Carl Froch.
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    By securing three points, Arthur Abraham emerged the weekend's biggest winner.
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    After losing to Arthur Abraham, Jermain Taylor might be the first casualty of the tournament.

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A roundup of the past week's notable boxing results from around the world:
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Saturday at Nottingham, England (Super Six World Boxing Classic)​
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Super middleweight
Carl Froch W12 Andre Dirrell
retains a super middleweight title
Scores: 115-112 (twice) Froch, 114-113 Dirrell​
[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Froch, 26-0, 20 KOs; Dirrell, 18-1, 13 KOs
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Rafael's remark: Froch isn't the smoothest or most skilled boxer, but he makes up for it with a physical, relentless style. It served him well when he outslugged Jean Pascal (who would go on to win a light heavyweight belt) to win a vacant super middleweight title in December. It served him well when he rallied to starch Jermain Taylor with 14 seconds left in the fight in his first defense in April. And it served him well again as he eked out a split decision against Flint, Mich., native and 2004 U.S. Olympic bronze medalist Dirrell to retain his title in a Group Stage 1 match of Showtime's Super Six World Boxing Classic six-man super middleweight tournament. Froch had the luxury of fighting in his hometown, but had to enter the ring in the wee hours of the morning to accommodate Showtime's live telecast to the East Coast of the United States while Dirrell had simply stayed on his normal body schedule for the fight. Dirrell also fought in his normal negative, agonizing style. He ran, he cried to the referee about just about everything and he held. And grabbed. And wrestled. At times, it was like watching a smaller, faster, more skilled version of John Ruiz. It was ugly. When Dirrell, who has all the talent in the world but still fights like an amateur, would stand and fight, he landed some nice counter right hands. But he didn't do it nearly enough. The first half of the fight was an abomination because of Dirrell's unwillingness to do anything but run and grab. All the while, Froch was making the fight, coming forward and firing in what degenerated into a somewhat dirty fight. But in the eighth round, Froch nailed Dirrell with a left hook late in the round that definitely rattled him. Both fighters fouled each other often with low blows, elbows, blows to the back of the head and punches on the break. Referee Hector Afu did his best, but had a very hard time maintaining control. Both guys could have had points deducted at various times but Afu did not pull the trigger until finally docking a point from Dirrell for holding and hitting in the 10th round, during which Dirrell hurt Froch with two hard left hands. In the end, two judges gave it to Froch, which was the right call. How can you give Dirrell the fight when, for the most part, he fought scared, complained to the referee about everything and barely threw any punches in the first half or two-thirds of the fight? He finished very strong, but it wasn't enough to warrant or deserve the decision. At best, he could have had a draw, which would have still not given him the title.

Froch, 32, picked up two points for the victory and will move on to face Mikkel Kessler in a Group Stage 2 bout to be scheduled for sometime around March. If Kessler defeats Andre Ward in their Group Stage 1 bout on Nov. 21, Kessler-Froch would be a title unification bout. Dirrell, who along with Ward is the most inexperienced fighter in the field, didn't hurt himself too badly with the loss. He gained valuable experience and showed he can compete with the top dogs in the division. But he needs to do more fighting and less running. He has a very tough Group Stage 2 bout. Arthur Abraham is supposed to come to the United States from Germany to face Dirrell, 26, in late January. That's a very, very tough fight.
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Saturday at Berlin ( Super Six World Boxing Classic)​
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Super middleweight
Arthur Abraham KO12 Jermain Taylor

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[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Records: Abraham, 31-0, 25 KOs; Taylor, 28-4-1, 17 KOs
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Rafael's remark: Like most of Taylor's losses, everything started out well for the former undisputed middleweight champ in this first Group Stage 1 bout of Showtime's much-heralded Super Six World Boxing Classic. And then it ended with a brutal knockout loss, one that put Taylor's continuation in the modified round-robin tournament -- and even his career -- in significant jeopardy. Abraham, a former middleweight titleholder who gave up his belt to move up in weight to participate in the tournament, is typically a slow starter and Taylor took advantage of that. The Little Rock, Ark., native, fighting outside the United States for the first time since receiving an Olympic bronze medal in the 2000 Sydney Olympics, swept perhaps the first four rounds of the fight. He was popping his jab, throwing combinations and body shots and easily outboxing Abraham, who was content to take the shots, many of which landed on his arms in front of a tight guard. However, as Taylor began to slow just a little, Abraham began to open up more and more. Taylor, 31, had been warned for low blows several times by referee Guadalupe Garcia when Garcia took a point from him in the sixth round when another shot strayed below the belt. The rest of the fight -- other than the 11th round -- belonged to Abraham, 29, who was coming on strong. He has a great chin and is so physically strong and rough, he's a handful for anyone, which is one of the reasons he was installed by oddsmaker Danny Sheridan as the co-favorite in the field along with Mikkel Kessler.

Abraham wobbled Taylor at the end of the seventh round and hurt him badly with a right hand in the ninth round. Abraham had clearly seized control of the fight and was cruising to a decision win in the 12th round when, out of nowhere, he landed a stiff right hand down the middle, connecting with Taylor's chin and knocking him out flat on his back. Garcia could have counted to 100. Taylor was out before he hit the canvas hard, sending the pro-Abraham crowd of about 14,000 into cheers. Abraham has the best late power in the sport as he notched his fifth knockout in the 10th round or later. And it was a highlight-reel kind of knockout that will get consideration as the knockout of the year.

With the victory, Abraham picks up three points in the tournament (two for the win and an extra point for the knockout). He'll next fight Andre Dirrell in early 2010 in the United States. For Taylor, however, the future is not as clear. He suffered a severe concussion and short-term memory loss and was admitted to the hospital, where he had a battery of tests. Promoter Lou DiBella told ESPN.com that Taylor was released from the hospital on Sunday night, but would remain in Europe for about a week because the doctors do not want him flying because of the head injury. The knockout loss was Taylor's third such hard knockout in his past five fights, and he has lost four of five. He was also stopped in the 12th round for the second consecutive fight, having been knocked out by titleholder Carl Froch (who is also in the tournament) in April. It appears unlikely that Taylor will continue in the tournament and perhaps will retire. Showtime will be responsible for selecting an alternate to take Taylor's place if he indeed drops out.

If this is the end for Taylor, he's had an excellent career. He beat Bernard Hopkins twice and won the undisputed middleweight championship while making four defenses before losing it to Kelly Pavlik. Nobody in recent years has faced a series of such difficult fights one after the other. From 2005 until Saturday night, Taylor faced Hopkins (twice), Pavlik (twice), Winky Wright, Froch, Abraham, Jeff Lacy and his supposed easy opponents, former junior middleweight titleholders Cory Spinks and Kassim Ouma. That lineup rivals any in the sport.
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Saturday at Corpus Christi, Texas​
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Lightweight
Brandon Rios TKO7 Manny Perez
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Rafael's remark: When Rios, the 23-year-old Oxnard, Calif., prospect promoted by Top Rank, first met Perez in October 2008, they fought to a majority draw in Perez's hometown of Denver. Two judges had the 10-round bout a 95-95 draw, with the third judge having it 96-94 for Perez. Since the draw, Rios hasn't left his fights in the hands of the judges. He scored his fourth consecutive knockout and cleaned up the lone blemish on his record in the TV Azteca-televised bout. Rios dominated Perez this time around. He opened a cut on Perez early and kept the pressure on throughout, finally getting the stoppage at 1 minute, 16 seconds of the seventh round.
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Junior bantamweight
Raul Martinez TKO5 Jonathan Perez
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Rafael's remark: The last time San Antonio's Martinez, 27, was in the ring, he was punished and dominated by then-flyweight titlist Nonito Donaire in a rough fourth-round TKO loss in April in the Philippines. Making his return from his first defeat, Martinez made easy work of Colombia's Perez, 22, torturing him with body shots. Martinez dropped him with a body blow in the third round and twice more in the fourth round. Martinez never made it off his stool for the fifth round as his corner called it off 10 seconds into the round. Perez dropped to 3-7 in his past 10 bouts, although some of those defeats came against quality competition, such as former junior bantamweight titlists Martin Castillo and Jose "Carita" Lopez and bantamweight contender Abner Mares. Martinez probably has another run at a title in him.
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Junior lightweight
Mario Santiago W8 Morris Chule
Scores: 79-73, 78-74 Santiago, 77-75 Chule
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Rafael's remark: Puerto Rico's Santiago, 31, is best known for fighting featherweight titleholder Steve Luevano to a draw in a June 2008 shootout on the Manny Pacquiao-David Diaz HBO PPV undercard. After a year off, Santiago returned in June to win a unanimous eight-round decision against Gilberto Sanchez Leon in Atlantic City, N.J. He notched his second consecutive win against Kenya's Chule, 29, albeit by split decision. It was Santiago's first bout since agreeing to a promotional contract extension with Top Rank, which will be busy in the featherweight division in which Santiago campaigns. Top Rank has titleholders Luevano and Yuriorkis Gamboa plus junior featherweight titlist Juan Manuel Lopez about to move up in weight. There's action at 126 pounds and Top Rank is right in the middle of it, so Santiago, a southpaw, figures to get some sort of opportunity sooner rather than later.

Also in action on the undercard, three of Top Rank's top prospects notched victories. Featherweight Jerry Belmontes (10-0, 3 KOs), 20, fighting in front of his hometown fans, won a shutout six-round decision against Mexico's Adulato Gonzalez (11-8, 4 KOs). All three judges had it 60-54. Junior featherweight Roberto Marroquin (10-0, 7 KOs), also 20, of Dallas took a shutout six-round decision against Miami's Jose Garcia Bernal (26-18-1, 17 KOs). Marroquin scored a knockdown and won 60-53 on all three scorecards. Also, 22-year-old Houston junior middleweight Omar Henry (6-0, 5 KOs) was pushed the distance for the first time, but took a shutout four-round decision against Miami's Carlos Aballe (5-10, 3 KOs), who was down in the fourth round. All three judges had it 40-35.
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Cruiserweight
Vassiliy Jirov TKO2 Jonathan Williams
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Rafael's remark: Former cruiserweight champ Vassiliy Jirov, also a 1996 Olympic gold medalist, returned for his first bout since a second-round knockout of journeyman Kenny Craven in July 2007. Although Jirov notched the knockout victory, he had a bit of a scare in the first round when late replacement Williams, filling in on a few days' notice for Cory Phelps, scored a flash knockdown. However, Jirov, 35, rebounded to drop Williams three times in the second round for the victory. Jirov, who tested the waters at heavyweight and found little success, is now back at cruiserweight, where he intends to campaign. He has also reunited with manager Ivaylo Gotzev, who led him to the cruiserweight title. "Vassiliy can't be in a bad fight," Gotzev said. "There was a flash knockdown, but all it did was put Vassiliy back in the right state of mind to go for the kill. The shot he got hit with was his welcome back to the fight game. In the second round, Vassiliy showed that 'The Tiger' is truly back."

Former heavyweight champion Shannon Briggs (48-5-1, 42 KOs), 37, was supposed to fight on the undercard in his first bout since losing a lopsided decision and his belt to Sultan Ibragimov in June 2007. However, the fight was called off at the last minute when journeyman opponent Aaron Lyons (9-7, 7 KOs) failed a pre-fight eye examination and was ruled ineligible to box.
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Friday at Miami​
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Welterweight
Antonio Pitalua TKO5 Wilfredo Negron
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Rafael's remark: Pitalua was originally scheduled to fight former junior welterweight titlist Diobelys Hurtado in the Telemundo main event, but Hurtado withdrew from the bout a couple of weeks ago because of a hip injury and Negron replaced him. In retrospect, that probably was not a good idea for Puerto Rico's Negron, 35, a onetime contender who fell to 1-5-1 in his past seven. Pitalua, 39, of Colombia, dominated the fight from the outset. It was a good performance from Pitalua, who has won two fights in a row since Edwin Valero knocked him dead in the second round of a lightweight title defense in April. Pitalua moved up to junior welterweight in his comeback fight in August and scored a knockout of the year candidate in the sixth round against Jose Reyes. His knockout of Negron at welterweight wasn't nearly as highlight-reel-worthy, but still very effective. Rather than a monster knockout, Pitalua just put his punches together and smacked Negron around. Finally, referee Frank Santore Jr. had seen enough and stopped the fight at 2 minutes, 9 seconds of the fifth round as Pitalua was pounding Negron, who was not answering back.
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Middleweight
Joel "Love Child" Julio W6 Clarence Taylor
Scores: 60-54 (twice), 59-55​
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Rafael's remark: Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, the Love Child! Julio, a former ESPN.com prospect of the year, shook off back-to-back losses for the routine shutout decision victory. Julio, of Colombia, moved quickly in his rise but suffered a decision loss to Carlos Quintana in a 2006 welterweight eliminator. After winning seven in a row after the loss, Julio got another big opportunity, but couldn't deliver. He went to Germany and lost a competitive decision to titleholder Sergei Dzindziruk in November 2008. Then came a showdown with hot prospect James Kirkland in March. Kirkland ran roughshod over Julio, stopping him in the sixth round in Kirkland's last fight before going to prison. Making his comeback, Julio easily outboxed and outpunched Taylor, 38, in a Telemundo-televised undercard fight. Despite Taylor's woeful record, he was actually coming off an upset knockout win and he gave Julio good work. Julio is still only 24 and heavy-handed. It won't be a surprise to see him get another opportunity if he has the desire to work for it.
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I wouldn't go as far and say Froch is god awful. It was a bad match-up for him. Green has excellent lateral and head movement along with good power. Frochis basically a Margs prototype, he needs someone who is willing to stand there and slug it out with him. It's the reason JT was beating him and the reasonGreen beat him. Froch is not bad in the speed department, has very good power punches with both hands and has a great chin/heart. There's a reason (besidesthe monetary issue) that Joe C chose to move up and not fight him as the mandatory (or Pascal for that matter).

With Andrade, I would rather see him in there than Bute but let's be realisitic he's not that great of a fighter against the top opposition. Kesslerbasically beat him relentlessly and won all 12 rounds IMO and he won at most 2 rounds from Bute who was outboxing him the whole night. Bute made the mistake oftrying to trade with him in the 12th instead of sticking to his gameplan. Best believe that with the possibility of a spot open he won't do that again.

But he already felt disrespected he wasn't one of the 6 to get an invite.
 
May not be for this thread but I figure I'll ask here.....


Does anybody know where I could watch a fight online, particularly the Pacquiao/Cotto fight? I know there are streams all over the place, but I'm lookingfor the best quality, even if I have to pay for it. I don't care if it's delayed a little bit, I just don't want terrible audio and choppy video. Iwould of thought HBO would let you pay for a stream through their website or something like that but I've searched their website and couldn't findanything.


Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
 
It'd be better to come in here the day of the fight, there's always links being posted while the fight is going on.
 
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