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WHen the belt was on them, people cared and THEN what happened?
What was the stepping stone Case?
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What was the stepping stone Case?
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Zack Sabre Jr. would've been DJ ZSJ as a member of the Zo Train if he signed with WWE.
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We can only go by what others have done.
205 has graduated NOT A SINGLE SOUL.
So why do we think a gimmickless, skinny/fat, no-personality having dude would be any different?
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But you say that like what he's doing currently actually means something.
He's wrestling in high school sumo halls. IT means NOTHING.
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There was no stepping stone cause Neville quit like a little ***** and Enzo got accused of rape..So what exactly do you want me to say when you already know what went down with those 2 people?..
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Exactly..
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So if you have NO reference point for CW Champ being a stepping stone, how can you make the claim that it would have been a stepping stone for ZSJ?
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No, but I’d def be interested in it
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RememberCase said ZSJ would be better off on 205 Live right now
The Cruiserweight Title is cursed man. There have been what 8 Champions and 3 of them are gone. The storylines have been awful on that show. Ali and Murphy keep having the same match, but upping the ante every time. How many times are they going to call back to that match. I know I know Rey vs. Psicosis happened a million times too, but this ain't 1996.
Sabre and Ibushi made the right decision for themselves and probably financially too. To lock ZSJ down, NJPW had to come off of some coin. Still don't know if Ibushi is roster or not, but I'm sure he's not hurting in the financial department either. Plus he took a couple more WWE pay days and I doubt dude is a lavish spender.
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Because that's my opinion..I think ZSJ or Ibushi would've made the division much better out the gate and it wouldn't be the mess it is now..When Neville got the belt things started rolling in the right direction..Then he quit and it halted the momentum of the division..Enzo got the belt and the CW's were on RAW every week for extended segments..Then he got falsely accused of rape, got fired, and the division's momentum took a nose dive..In the 2 years since the CWC they've had exactly 2 big stars as champion and during those times the division has felt more important than it currently does..ZSJ and Kota are bigger named stars than Grand Metallica or TJP or Mustafa, so IMO the division would flourish with them dudes in it..And just like Eddie, Chris, Rey, Dean, and Y2J those 2 guys could eventually use that division as a stepping stone to something better..
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I could see if we were talking about a charismatic wrestler with a flashy moveset.
But we are talking about ZSJ
He is "boring"
He is skinny (fat)
He has ZERO personality.
Why do you think HE (he) would be ANYTHING in the WWE system?
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To everything I just read above.
The Cruiserweight Title is cursed man. There have been what 8 Champions and 3 of them are gone. The storylines have been awful on that show. Ali and Murphy keep having the same match, but upping the ante every time. How many times are they going to call back to that match. I know I know Rey vs. Psicosis happened a million times too, but this ain't 1996.
Sabre and Ibushi made the right decision for themselves and probably financially too. To lock ZSJ down, NJPW had to come off of some coin. Still don't know if Ibushi is roster or not, but I'm sure he's not hurting in the financial department either. Plus he took a couple more WWE pay days and I doubt dude is a lavish spender.
I'm sure they feel like they made the right choice..But NJPW ain't coming of serious coin for anyone who isn't Tanahashi, Okada, Naito, Jericho, Kenny, or Young Bucks..No way in hell either of them dudes are making WWE money..
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In 1996, those dudes were wrestling a style that NOBODY else was wrestling. Fans WANTED to see them on Nitro, WCW still held them back. It wasn't until WWE when they moved up. They were cutting edge back then
Cruiserweights NOW aren't "cutting edge." They are status quo. Especially in WWE where they are handcuffed.
Why should anyone care about Cruiserweight style in 2018 when they can look at the Main Event Level and See the SAME stuff from AJ and Seth Rollins?
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Was it not a fusion of Mexican/Japanese wrestling?
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Correct
Benoit
Jericho
Eddie
Malenko
Mysterio
In 1996 you couldn't look at the main event portion of the card and see ANYTHING similar, like you can do in 2018.
Anyone 35 and younger now looked up to THOSE dudes. Everyone wrestles like a video game today man. No differentiation
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I will take that as a compliment because he is one of the most sensible dudes when it comes to explaining wrestling logic
