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^^Jake and Arn should be higher..Hands down the 2 most under rated promo men in wrestling history..

And the fact that Edge, Albano, and Cena are ranked higher than Harley Race is pure insanity..

Edge is probably the worst talker thats ever been considered good. He was horrible on the mic as a face. Those exaggerated facial expressions that he always pulls in matches are pretty embarrassing too
 
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Just saw Smackdown. When Ambrose jumped over the couch onto Brad Maddox i literally fell on the floor laughing. That was so damn hilarious
 
Tuesday, March 25, 2014

Wellness Violations
Reviewing lists provided by http://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/wwe/wwe-suspensions/ and http://www.pwpix.net/information/wwesuspensions/

Below are the violators of the WWE Wellness Policy since November 1, 2007
11/2/07 D.H. Smith (real name Harry Smith) – 30 days (1st)
11/2/07 Chris Masters (real name Chris Mordetzky) – 60 days (2nd)
1/16/08 Derrick Linkin (real name Derrick Neikirk)
1/16/08 Chett the Jet (real name Neil Bzibziak)
3/11/08 Jeff Hardy – 60 days (2nd)
3/20/08 Manu (real name Afa Anoa’i, Jr.) – 30 days ("Afa was believed to have been suspended not because he failed an actual Wellness Test but for trying to manipulate the test by not actually giving a real sample from his body.")
5/20/08 William Regal (real name Darren Matthews) – 60 days (2nd)
6/9/08 Jimmy Wang Yang (real name James Carson Yun) – 30 days (1st)
10/10/08 Dolph Ziggler (real name Nick Nemeth) – 30 days (1st)
6/8/09 Umaga (real name Eddie Fatu) – 2nd; "he was terminated for refusing to enter a rehabilitation program."
8/27/09 Rey Mysterio (real name Oscar Gutiérrez) – 30 days (1st)
5/21/10 Carlito (real name Carlos Colon) – 1st; released for "his refusal to enter a rehabilitation facility"
7/18/11 Sin Cara (real name Luis Ignascio) –1st
8/15/11 Mike Chioda – 1st
8/11 Andy Leavine - 30 days (1st)
10/6/11 Darren Young (real name Fred Rosser) – 30 days (1st) "suspended for smoking synthetic marijuana."
10/17/11 Heath Slater (real name Heath Miller) – 30 days (1st) "suspended for smoking synthetic marijuana."
11/1/11 Evan Bourne (real name Matthew Korklan) – 30 days (1st) "suspended for smoking synthetic marijuana."
11/22/11 R-Truth (real name Ron Killings) – 30 days (1st) "suspended for smoking synthetic marijuana."
1/17/12 Evan Bourne (real name Matthew Korklan) – 60 days (2nd) "suspended for smoking synthetic marijuana."
4/26/12 Rey Mysterio (real name Oscar Gutiérrez) - 60 days (2nd) "reportedly tested positive for amphetamines"
5/30/12 Randy Orton – 60 days (2nd.. or 5th) "positive test was caused by elevated testosterone levels due to Dianabol... traces of marijuana in his system."
7/2/13 Ricardo Rodriguez (real name Jesús Rodríguez) – 30 days (1st)

Others Prior to 11/1/07
2005 Randy Orton (2005): suspended for steroids?
4/4/06 Randy Orton: 60 days for “unprofessional conduct.” ("suspended for smoking marijuana backstage")
2006/2007 - Chavo Guerrero - Suspended for 30 days in 2006 or 2007
2007: Booker T - Suspended for 30 days in 2007
2007: Chris Kay - Suspended for 30 days in 2007
6/2006: Kurt Angle - Suspended for 30 days in June or July 2006
6/2006: Rene Dupree - Suspended for 30 days in June 2006
7/2006: Kid Kash - Suspended for 30 days in July 2006
7/2006: Rob Van Dam - Suspended for 30 days in July 2006
7/2006: Ryan Reeves (Ryback) - Suspended for 30 days in July 2006
8/2006: Randy Orton - Suspended for 30 days in August 2006
9/2006: Ryan O'Reilly - Suspended for 30 days in September 2006
9/2006 Balls Mahoney - Suspended for 30 days in September 2006
10/2006: Drew Hankinson (Luke Gallows) - Suspended for 30 days in October 2006
2/2007: Rene Dupree - Suspended for 60 days in February 2007
2/2007: Test - Suspended for 30 days in February 2007
4/2007: Chris Kay - Suspended for 60 days in April 2007
7/2007: Jeff Hardy - Suspended for 30 days in July 2007
8/30/07 Signature Pharmacy: suspended 10 performers
* Booker T - Suspended for 60 days on August 30, 2007
* Charlie Haas - Suspended for 30 days on August 30, 2007
* Chavo Guerrero - Suspended for 60 days on August 30, 2007
* Chris Masters - Suspended for 30 days on August 30, 2007
* Edge - Suspended for 30 days on August 30, 2007
* Funaki - Suspended for 30 days on August 30, 2007
* Gregory Helms - Suspended for 30 days on August 30, 2007
* John Morrison - Suspended for 30 days on August 30, 2007
* Mr. Kennedy - Suspended for 30 days on August 30, 2007
* Snitsky - Suspended for 30 days on August 30, 2007
* Umaga - Suspended for 30 days on August 30, 2007
* William Regal - Suspended for 30 days on August 30, 2007
damn even refs are failing test
 
Lmfao how many chances are they gonna give randy.. he seems like a freakin spoiled child at this point. 3 suspensions, 2 of which are wellness violations, then still gets pushed to the top. remember, hes one violation away from getting fired. damn, he even has backstage issues. i remember reports of him ******** in a divas bag, then he called kelly kelly a **** on the radio ( a normal mid carder wouldve been punished for this, but since it was randy, he STILL gets pushed to the top). hes been handed everything since he debuted. smh randy, just so freaking spoiled.
 
Lmfao how many chances are they gonna give randy.. he seems like a freakin spoiled child at this point. 3 suspensions, 2 of which are wellness violations, then still gets pushed to the top. remember, hes one violation away from getting fired. damn, he even has backstage issues. i remember reports of him ******** in a divas bag, then he called kelly kelly a **** on the radio ( a normal mid carder wouldve been punished for this, but since it was randy, he STILL gets pushed to the top). hes been handed everything since he debuted. smh randy, just so freaking spoiled.

Fantastic SN:post ratio...
 
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Top 50 Best Talkers In Wrestling History:




01 Ric Flair
02 The Rock
03 Roddy Piper
04 Steve Austin
05 Dusty Rhodes
06 Paul Heyman
07 Mick Foley
08 Bobby Heenan
09 Hulk Hogan
10 Chris Jericho
11 Jake Roberts
12 John Cena
13 Vincent Kennedy McMahon
14 Billy Graham
15 Arn Anderson
16 CM Punk
17 Jim Cornette
18 Randy Savage
19 Hunter Hearst Helmsley
20 Lou Albano
21 Edge
22 Harley Race
23 Shawn Michaels
24 Terry Funk
25 Ted DiBiase
26 Jerry Lawler
27 Jesse Ventura
28 Raven
29 Nick Bockwinkel
30 Michael Hayes
31 Ultimate Warrior
32 Gary Hart
33 Rick Rude
34 Bray Wyatt
35 Kurt Angle
36 Ernie Ladd
37 Stephanie McMahon
38 Tazz
39 William Regal
40 Kevin Sullivan
41 The Miz
42 Thunderbolt Patterson
43 John Bradshaw Layfield
44 Brian Pillman
45 The Grand Wizard
46 New Jack
47 Zeb Colter
48 Jimmy Valiant
49 Joel Gertner
50 Scott Steiner




http://www.wwe.com/classics/classic-lists/the-50-best-talkers-in-wrestling-history/page-51


I'd swap Piper and Flair.

Come at me
 
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:lol even NT magically disagrees. Once I clicked send somehow this post followed up. eerie. 8o
 
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"You know they say all men are created equal. But you look at me and you look at Samoa Joe and you can see that statement is not true. See, normally if you go one on one with another wrestler, you gotta 50-50 chance of winning. But I'm a genetic freak and I'm not normal. So you got a 25 per cent - at best - to beat me. And then you add Kurt Angle to the mix, your chances of winning drastically go down. You see, the three way at Sacrifice you got a 33 and 1/3 chance of winning. But I, I got a 66 and 2/3 chance of winning cause Kurt Angle knows he can't beat me and he's not even gonna try. So Samoa Joe, you take your 33 and 1/3 chance, minus my 25 per cent chance and you got an 8 and 1/3 chance of winning at Sacrifice. But then you take my 75 per cent chance of winning if it goes one on one and then add the 66 and 2/3 per cent chance, I got a 141 and 2/3 chance of winning at Sacrifice. See Joe, the numbers don't lie and they spell disaster for you at Sacrifice. See, but I'm gonna break it down for you, ladies. Would you rather be with me or would you rather be with Joe?"

- The 50th Best Talker In Wrestling History
 


Soooo has anybody seen this match?

Tanahashi vs. Okada Invasion Attack 2013, much hyped and again given 5 stars by Meltz

Like Tanahashi/Suzuki, I didnt see all the hype around this. It's still a very good match, probably around 4 stars for me, but man NJPW and Tanahashi gets overrated like hell now. I actually have the Tanahashi/Suzuki match ranked above this.


Nakamura >>>>> Tanahashi


Not to knock Tanahashi because he is good, but he is a bit overrated like you said. But I also think NJPW as a whole is as good as it's rated today. They have some great talent man.

Some of the older stuff is superior of course.
 
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"You know they say all men are created equal. But you look at me and you look at Samoa Joe and you can see that statement is not true. See, normally if you go one on one with another wrestler, you gotta 50-50 chance of winning. But I'm a genetic freak and I'm not normal. So you got a 25 per cent - at best - to beat me. And then you add Kurt Angle to the mix, your chances of winning drastically go down. You see, the three way at Sacrifice you got a 33 and 1/3 chance of winning. But I, I got a 66 and 2/3 chance of winning cause Kurt Angle knows he can't beat me and he's not even gonna try. So Samoa Joe, you take your 33 and 1/3 chance, minus my 25 per cent chance and you got an 8 and 1/3 chance of winning at Sacrifice. But then you take my 75 per cent chance of winning if it goes one on one and then add the 66 and 2/3 per cent chance, I got a 141 and 2/3 chance of winning at Sacrifice. See Joe, the numbers don't lie and they spell disaster for you at Sacrifice. See, but I'm gonna break it down for you, ladies. Would you rather be with me or would you rather be with Joe?"

- The 50th Best Talker In Wrestling History
:lol :rollin
 
"See when I have my freaks horizontal, they understand size, they appreciate size, and size does matter. And they know that they don't have to wait for the earth to rotate on a 47-degree axis so the stars can smuck the sky and create a equalax, so they can see the big dipper. No no no. All they gotta do is call up the Big Poppa, cause I'm the man with the big dipper, and satisfaction's comin when I go behind, and do the bump n grind, and its only a matter of time before they call me the BIG BAD BOOTY DADDY!"
 
Nakamura >>>>> Tanahashi


Not to knock Tanahashi because he is good, but he is a bit overrated like you said. But I also think NJPW as a whole is as good as it's rated today. They have some great talent man.

Some of the older stuff is superior of course.

Tanahashi matches are way better now because he's starting to lose more and I don't have to watch big matches where he hits 20x dragon screws, 5x sling blade, and 5x high fly flows to win :lol :x

And yeah, I'm not trying to **** on NJPW cause they're putting on a great product, but I'm just kinda tired of seeing people throw out five stars for every big match they put on and calling matches like Tanahashi/Okada the best match they've ever seen.
 
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:rollin :rollin :rollin Steiner

Based on that wellness list, Orton should been fired multiple times. And that "smoking synthetic marijuana" list :lol Jesus. I forgot which match it was, but they started referring to Darren Young as "Mr. No Days Off", but I think he got suspended for that violation, and either Cole or King said "well I guess he's Mr. 30 Days Off now" :rollin
 
Another random match of the day



Saw this match for the first time and :eek this **** was insane. You had Stan Hansen, the GOAT brawler, and Andre, back when he can still go (if you've never seen Andre really move around..you need to take a look), just beating the hell out of each other. Andre bumped around like there wasn't gonna be a tomorrow ala HHH on Raw for Bryan :lol The only thing holding this match back is the weak finish but I'm still gonna say this is probably Andres best match ever....probably up there for Hansen too.
 
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"See when I have my freaks horizontal, they understand size, they appreciate size, and size does matter. And they know that they don't have to wait for the earth to rotate on a 47-degree axis so the stars can smuck the sky and create a equalax, so they can see the big dipper. No no no. All they gotta do is call up the Big Poppa, cause I'm the man with the big dipper, and satisfaction's comin when I go behind, and do the bump n grind, and its only a matter of time before they call me the BIG BAD BOOTY DADDY!"
:lol
 
@DangerousG - I just watched Sasaki/Kawada. It was cool. Maybe if I watched it in the context I coud appreciate it more. But the funniest thing to me was Liger being a hype man on the outside. Dude is always hilarious whenever he is outside with someone.

ABout to watch Big Andre and Stan Hansen.
 
Tanahashi matches are way better now because he's starting to lose more and I don't have to watch big matches where he hits 20x dragon screws, 5x sling blade, and 5x high fly flows to win :lol :x

And yeah, I'm not trying to **** on NJPW cause they're putting on a great product, but I'm just kinda tired of seeing people throw out five stars for every big match they put on and calling matches like Tanahashi/Okada the best match they've ever seen.
I feel you man. That is why I said dude watches too much Mutoh. Dragon Screw. Dragon Screw. Dragon Screw. But I never get tired of seeing frog splashes so he can do as many High Fly Flows as he wants. (No Lobotimo)
 
Top 50 Best Talkers In Wrestling History:




01 Ric Flair
02 The Rock
03 Roddy Piper
04 Steve Austin
05 Dusty Rhodes
06 Paul Heyman
07 Mick Foley
08 Bobby Heenan
09 Hulk Hogan
10 Chris Jericho
11 Jake Roberts
12 John Cena
13 Vincent Kennedy McMahon
14 Billy Graham
15 Arn Anderson
16 CM Punk
17 Jim Cornette
18 Randy Savage
19 Hunter Hearst Helmsley
20 Lou Albano
21 Edge
22 Harley Race
23 Shawn Michaels
24 Terry Funk
25 Ted DiBiase
26 Jerry Lawler
27 Jesse Ventura
28 Raven
29 Nick Bockwinkel
30 Michael Hayes
31 Ultimate Warrior
32 Gary Hart
33 Rick Rude
34 Bray Wyatt
35 Kurt Angle
36 Ernie Ladd
37 Stephanie McMahon
38 Tazz
39 William Regal
40 Kevin Sullivan
41 The Miz
42 Thunderbolt Patterson
43 John Bradshaw Layfield
44 Brian Pillman
45 The Grand Wizard
46 New Jack
47 Zeb Colter
48 Jimmy Valiant
49 Joel Gertner
50 Scott Steiner




http://www.wwe.com/classics/classic-lists/the-50-best-talkers-in-wrestling-history/page-51
Bruh, they put HHH over Raven. SMH
 

And Stephanie McMahon is on the list :lol

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