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[Case]

I got no problem with Sting... I like him, but was a WWF kid, so he was never important to me.. But I'll say this.. He was a top 3 guy for a failed company that went under, and that doesn't sound to important to me...

WCW was crap for the last 1 1/2 to 2 yrs, but that has nothing to do with Sting, Booker, Flair, or any other on air talent..That was pure management and anyone who knows wrestling knows that's the truth..So take away the last 2 year of WCW and Sting was still at the top of the 2nd largest promotion in the world for rougly 12-14 years..That sounds pretty damn important to me..And during the majority of Sting's time in NWA/WCW, that promotion was far and away the WRESTLING promotion..It's pretty much common knowledge that WCW had the better wrestling while WWF had the better characters..

 

[Case]

I really hate how closed minded SOME traditional WWF dudes are man. Wrestling really starts and ends in the Northeast huh man.

I was always a WCW guy growing up..I loved a lot of the characters in WWF, but if I wanted to watch great wrestling with great in ring story tellers I would tune into WCW..

 

[Maximus Meridius]

I got no problem with Sting... I like him, but was a WWF kid, so he was never important to me.. But I'll say this.. He was a top 3 guy for a failed company that went under, and that doesn't sound to important to me...

Let's not act like WWE didn't almost become that failed company until they started borrowing ideas.



Sting was a top 5 wrestler period for a good 10 years.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

I got no problem with Sting... I like him, but was a WWF kid, so he was never important to me.. But I'll say this.. He was a top 3 guy for a failed company that went under, and that doesn't sound to important to me...

You say it as if WCW was failed throughout their entire history man. That isn't fair to give him that label.


http://indeedwrestling.blogspot.co.uk/

@HadPants , this is an amazing blog man. Lots of great posts from earlier years. This might take me away from the podcasts

 

[steelogreen]

WWE.com rated the top talkers.

The Rock was number 2 and Ric Flair was number 1...as it should be.

So I guess we can finally put that to bed.

Who was top 5?

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Tuesday, March 25, 2014

Wellness Violations
Reviewing lists provided by http://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/wwe/wwe-suspensions/ and http://www.pwpix.net/information/wwesuspensions/

Below are the violators of the WWE Wellness Policy since November 1, 2007
11/2/07 D.H. Smith (real name Harry Smith) – 30 days (1st)
11/2/07 Chris Masters (real name Chris Mordetzky) – 60 days (2nd)
1/16/08 Derrick Linkin (real name Derrick Neikirk)
1/16/08 Chett the Jet (real name Neil Bzibziak)
3/11/08 Jeff Hardy – 60 days (2nd)
3/20/08 Manu (real name Afa Anoa’i, Jr.) – 30 days ("Afa was believed to have been suspended not because he failed an actual Wellness Test but for trying to manipulate the test by not actually giving a real sample from his body.")
5/20/08 William Regal (real name Darren Matthews) – 60 days (2nd)
6/9/08 Jimmy Wang Yang (real name James Carson Yun) – 30 days (1st)
10/10/08 Dolph Ziggler (real name Nick Nemeth) – 30 days (1st)
6/8/09 Umaga (real name Eddie Fatu) – 2nd; "he was terminated for refusing to enter a rehabilitation program."
8/27/09 Rey Mysterio (real name Oscar Gutiérrez) – 30 days (1st)
5/21/10 Carlito (real name Carlos Colon) – 1st; released for "his refusal to enter a rehabilitation facility"
7/18/11 Sin Cara (real name Luis Ignascio) –1st
8/15/11 Mike Chioda – 1st
8/11 Andy Leavine - 30 days (1st)
10/6/11 Darren Young (real name Fred Rosser) – 30 days (1st) "suspended for smoking synthetic marijuana."
10/17/11 Heath Slater (real name Heath Miller) – 30 days (1st) "suspended for smoking synthetic marijuana."
11/1/11 Evan Bourne (real name Matthew Korklan) – 30 days (1st) "suspended for smoking synthetic marijuana."
11/22/11 R-Truth (real name Ron Killings) – 30 days (1st) "suspended for smoking synthetic marijuana."
1/17/12 Evan Bourne (real name Matthew Korklan) – 60 days (2nd) "suspended for smoking synthetic marijuana."
4/26/12 Rey Mysterio (real name Oscar Gutiérrez) - 60 days (2nd) "reportedly tested positive for amphetamines"
5/30/12 Randy Orton – 60 days (2nd.. or 5th) "positive test was caused by elevated testosterone levels due to Dianabol... traces of marijuana in his system."
7/2/13 Ricardo Rodriguez (real name Jesús Rodríguez) – 30 days (1st)

Others Prior to 11/1/07
2005 Randy Orton (2005): suspended for steroids?
4/4/06 Randy Orton: 60 days for “unprofessional conduct.” ("suspended for smoking marijuana backstage")
2006/2007 - Chavo Guerrero - Suspended for 30 days in 2006 or 2007
2007: Booker T - Suspended for 30 days in 2007
2007: Chris Kay - Suspended for 30 days in 2007
6/2006: Kurt Angle - Suspended for 30 days in June or July 2006
6/2006: Rene Dupree - Suspended for 30 days in June 2006
7/2006: Kid Kash - Suspended for 30 days in July 2006
7/2006: Rob Van Dam - Suspended for 30 days in July 2006
7/2006: Ryan Reeves (Ryback) - Suspended for 30 days in July 2006
8/2006: Randy Orton - Suspended for 30 days in August 2006
9/2006: Ryan O'Reilly - Suspended for 30 days in September 2006
9/2006 Balls Mahoney - Suspended for 30 days in September 2006
10/2006: Drew Hankinson (Luke Gallows) - Suspended for 30 days in October 2006
2/2007: Rene Dupree - Suspended for 60 days in February 2007
2/2007: Test - Suspended for 30 days in February 2007
4/2007: Chris Kay - Suspended for 60 days in April 2007
7/2007: Jeff Hardy - Suspended for 30 days in July 2007
8/30/07 Signature Pharmacy: suspended 10 performers
* Booker T - Suspended for 60 days on August 30, 2007
* Charlie Haas - Suspended for 30 days on August 30, 2007
* Chavo Guerrero - Suspended for 60 days on August 30, 2007
* Chris Masters - Suspended for 30 days on August 30, 2007
* Edge - Suspended for 30 days on August 30, 2007
* Funaki - Suspended for 30 days on August 30, 2007
* Gregory Helms - Suspended for 30 days on August 30, 2007
* John Morrison - Suspended for 30 days on August 30, 2007
* Mr. Kennedy - Suspended for 30 days on August 30, 2007
* Snitsky - Suspended for 30 days on August 30, 2007
* Umaga - Suspended for 30 days on August 30, 2007
* William Regal - Suspended for 30 days on August 30, 2007

 

[T0INE]

You'd swear that WCW was current day TNA the way some of y'all disparage it.

Yes the company closed down, but during their heyday they did a lot of good, even great things, and were a viable threat to Vince and the WWE.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Mr. Kennedy.. Haven't seen that name in a while. I thought he was the future at one point.

 

[green rhino123]

one of the best, everyone copied his promos & style...

 

[steelogreen]

That list was bs cm punk was way to low. The fact that john cena was higher at number 12 is just sad... Top 6 I have no problem with tho

 

[Case]

one of the best, everyone copied his promos & style...

I couldn't agree more..And it's a shame that I always forget to add him to my top promo guy list..But he deserves to be up there with the greats..

I always found it funny that Jesse Ventura, who I love as a commentator, would criticize Hulk Hogan for being a phony and a ripoff but yet Jesse's entire gimmick was a 1.7 million percent knock off of Superstar..

 

[green rhino123]

^ they each took half of billy's gimmick, ha ha

 

[Case]

^ they each took half of billy's gimmick, ha ha

They both took more than that..But if you go back and look at Jesse during his wrestling days he pretty much a Superstar clone..

 

[green rhino123]

Top 50 Best Talkers In Wrestling History:




01 Ric Flair
02 The Rock
03 Roddy Piper
04 Steve Austin
05 Dusty Rhodes
06 Paul Heyman
07 Mick Foley
08 Bobby Heenan
09 Hulk Hogan
10 Chris Jericho
11 Jake Roberts
12 John Cena
13 Vincent Kennedy McMahon
14 Billy Graham
15 Arn Anderson
16 CM Punk
17 Jim Cornette
18 Randy Savage
19 Hunter Hearst Helmsley
20 Lou Albano
21 Edge
22 Harley Race
23 Shawn Michaels
24 Terry Funk
25 Ted DiBiase
26 Jerry Lawler
27 Jesse Ventura
28 Raven
29 Nick Bockwinkel
30 Michael Hayes
31 Ultimate Warrior
32 Gary Hart
33 Rick Rude
34 Bray Wyatt
35 Kurt Angle
36 Ernie Ladd
37 Stephanie McMahon
38 Tazz
39 William Regal
40 Kevin Sullivan
41 The Miz
42 Thunderbolt Patterson
43 John Bradshaw Layfield
44 Brian Pillman
45 The Grand Wizard
46 New Jack
47 Zeb Colter
48 Jimmy Valiant
49 Joel Gertner
50 Scott Steiner




http://www.wwe.com/classics/classic-lists/the-50-best-talkers-in-wrestling-history/page-51

 

[Case]

^^Jake and Arn should be higher..Hands down the 2 most under rated promo men in wrestling history..

And the fact that Edge, Albano, and Cena are ranked higher than Harley Race is pure insanity..

 

[green rhino123]

Can't Believe These Guys Didn't Make the List:

Ken Patera
Andre The Giant
Nikolai Volkoff
Tony Atlas
The Wild Samoans/The Moondogs
George Steele
Sid Vicious
Jimmy Snuka
Pat Patterson/Bruno Sammartino/Bob Backlund
Big John Studd
Hillbilly Jim
Bob Orton, Jr./Randy Orton


ha ha

 

[Case]

Can't Believe These Guys Didn't Make the List:

Ken Patera
Andre The Giant
Nikolai Volkoff
Tony Atlas
The Wild Samoans/The Moondogs
George Steele
Sid Vicious
Jimmy Snuka
Pat Patterson/Bruno Sammartino/Bob Backlund
Big John Studd
Hillbilly Jim
Bob Orton, Jr./Randy Orton


ha ha

I thought you was serious till I seen the ha ha..

 

[alpha i caesar]

Ventura/Bockwinkle/Thunderbolt Patterson all way underrated

 

[Case]

I think if more Memphis footage was readily available, Lawler would be mentioned more frequently on these GOAT lists. Dude was on top for 30+ years and was wrestling at very high levels for most of em. Maybe if that Memphis sale goes through with WWE, we'll see it on the network.

I'm not trying to take anything away from Lawler because he was a really good wrestler, but he was only really relevant to the Memphis area..And the man booked himself to win so many titles that it takes a ton away from his legacy..He's very much like Verne Gagne..They both owned/booked a territory and put themselves at the top whether someone else was deserving or not..Lawler will be remembered for these three things: 1. Andy Kauffman feud 2. Commentator for WWF/E 3. Wrestler..And that's the exact order..And that's nothing to be ashamed of..

 

[green rhino123]

Muraco not on the list is a travesty!



dude was ill on the mic & could eat a meatball sub while wrestling opponents!

 

[green rhino123]

View media item 940507

 

[green rhino123]

Lawler will be remembered for these three things: 1. Andy Kauffman feud 2. Commentator for WWF/E 3. Wrestler..And that's the exact order..And that's nothing to be ashamed of..

and don't forget ripping off da strap of his singlet right before he was bout to go ape and apply dat p drive

at that moment - you knew he meant business

 

[alpha i caesar]

Muraco not on the list is a travesty!



dude was ill on the mic & could eat a meatball sub while wrestling opponents!

 Albano slipped on a meatball.

 

[green rhino123]

^ i know...classic unscripted gold...he was probably drunk...r.i.p.

"that fat slob - look at him" - vince

 

[Peep Game]

Shocked that they have Jericho at 10. Not that he shouldn't be there (as he def should), but the WWE has just never have treated him with much reverence in the ring nor in reference to history.