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Originally Posted by LDJ
cguy610 wrote:
Originally Posted by Boys Noize
You can not be this dense. Polygamy and homosexual marriage are apples and oranges.
It's like asking why can't we have polygamy if we have heterosexual marriage? Polygamy is marrying two or more people. It's an entirely different argument. No one is allowed to marry more than one person under US law, gay or straight. Gay rights supporters are only arguing for EQUAL treatment to their heterosexual counterparts.
Now that we've tried to compare granting homosexuals the same rights that heterosexuals have to bestiality, incest, pedophilia, and polygamy, I wonder what other irrelevant argument will be thrown in to try to justify continuing inequality.
Ironic that you use the same arguments against polygamy that are used against gay marriage.
"No one can marry a person of the same sex, so no one is being discriminated against".
"No one can marry more than one person, so no one is being discriminated against"
yes there are ppl who are being discriminated. the ppl who want to marry be in a relationsip with multitudes of ppl are denied doing so.
It's an entirely different argument.
no it isnt the end results are equality for all ppl to choose to be in whatever relationship they so choose to be in. So how is it different. If someone wants to husbands a husband should be allowed the same as if a man wants to be with a man or a woman with a woman a transexual with whoever and hermaphodite so on and so forth.
So how exactly is it different. so long as all parties are consensual. That was everyones major issue yet you bring up beastiality. Hello now what you said is irrelevant. a dog/horse so on and so forth cannot consent nor can it be proven that they want to be in a relationship with a human being.
Can two woman agree that they want to share a man, or two men agree that they can share a woman and all parties agree to it? The answer is yes so um again how is it different. unless you are saying ppl who are for polygamy dont exist. Or are you saying ppl who believe in polygamy arent as important as ppl who believe in monogamy? Or maybe ypou are stating your personal beliefs that ppl can only truely love one person at a time and that the sex of that one person doesnt matter. It seems like thats exactly what your saying and just being evasive and dodging admitting your own personal beliefs by bring in things like beastiality knowing good and well that one beastality is a sexual act and not a relationship, and two there isnt a way to prove consent from a animal.
Honestly, I can't even comprehend half of the stuff you're typing. You're rambling. "Husbands a husband"? I'm not even a grammar nazi but I can't understand what you're trying to say if you aren't even going to make an attempt at punctuation.
The thing you guys aren't getting is that this is a matter of equality under US law. A large part of the reason people get married is because they love the person they are with. That is the biggest and most important part of a relationship obviously. A smaller, but not any less significant, part is the benefits married couples receive from the state. Married couples enjoy benefits that homosexual couples do not receive and that's where the crux of the argument is. Married heterosexual couples get tax benefits homosexual couples do not receive. They can visit their loved ones in the hospital but homosexual couples can not. They can take time off work to take care of their loved ones during sickness but homosexual couples can not. There are a slew of legal rights homosexual couples are not afforded and that is why there is such a push for equality.
This isn't a fight for special treatment. It's a fight for EQUALITY. That's it.
And I would really not like to repeat myself on WHY bestiality, pedophilia, incest, and polygamy are completely different arguments. If you've already gone this many pages and STILL can't see the difference, you're either incredibly dense or you are forcing yourself not to see the difference. I really can't try to convince you further.