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ASU
nice win for the Zags
we're gona get whooped tomorrow
nice win for the Zags
we're gona get whooped tomorrow
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STUD OF THE NIGHT: How about Danny Ainge's nephew, Utah Valley State senior guard Ryan Toolson, going for 63 points in aquadruple-overtime win at Chicago State. Toolson, who came into the game averaging 22.4 points, was 18-of-31 from the field, 20-of-21 from the line and made7-of-11 from long distance. He never came off the court, playing 60 minutes and also grabbing a dozen rebounds.
DUD OF THE NIGHT: It's hard to hammer Illinois for anything this season since the team has clearly overachieved, but the Illini managed toscore just 36 points in a loss at Minnesota.
STAT OF THE NIGHT: Saint Mary's star guard Patty Mills sat out the entire second half of the Gaels loss to Gonzaga due to a wrist injury.Mills was ridiculous in the first half, scoring 18 points (6-of-8 from long distance) in just 17 minutes as Saint Mary's led the 'Zags at the break.
UNDER-THE-RADAR PERFORMANCE: It may have looked like a meaningless Big East game, but the Seton Hall-Rutgers contest was newsworthy becauseSeton Hall's Bobby Gonzalez and Rutgers coach Fred Hill have a relationship that makes John Calpari and Bruce Pearl look like best friends. Jeremy Hazellhad 35 points and 10 boards and Hall held off Rutgers, 70-67.
ON TAP: Here's the slate for tomorrow:
12 p.m. ET - Notre Dame at Pittsburgh; Wake Forest at Georgia Tech; West Virginia at Louisville
1 p.m. ET - Michigan at Purdue; Washington State at Arizona
2 p.m. ET - Georgetown at Marquette
4 p.m. ET - Providence at UConn
5:30 p.m. ET - Washington at Arizona State
6 p.m. ET - San Diego at Gonzaga
9 p.m. ET - Florida at Tennessee
DUD OF THE NIGHT: It's hard to hammer Illinois for anything this season since the team has clearly overachieved, but the Illini managed toscore just 36 points in a loss at Minnesota.
STAT OF THE NIGHT: Saint Mary's star guard Patty Mills sat out the entire second half of the Gaels loss to Gonzaga due to a wrist injury.Mills was ridiculous in the first half, scoring 18 points (6-of-8 from long distance) in just 17 minutes as Saint Mary's led the 'Zags at the break.
UNDER-THE-RADAR PERFORMANCE: It may have looked like a meaningless Big East game, but the Seton Hall-Rutgers contest was newsworthy becauseSeton Hall's Bobby Gonzalez and Rutgers coach Fred Hill have a relationship that makes John Calpari and Bruce Pearl look like best friends. Jeremy Hazellhad 35 points and 10 boards and Hall held off Rutgers, 70-67.
ON TAP: Here's the slate for tomorrow:
12 p.m. ET - Notre Dame at Pittsburgh; Wake Forest at Georgia Tech; West Virginia at Louisville
1 p.m. ET - Michigan at Purdue; Washington State at Arizona
2 p.m. ET - Georgetown at Marquette
4 p.m. ET - Providence at UConn
5:30 p.m. ET - Washington at Arizona State
6 p.m. ET - San Diego at Gonzaga
9 p.m. ET - Florida at Tennessee
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Jeremy Hazell
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Did Nic wise really miss a layup like that. That #%%% was god awful
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63 points? damn.
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He MJ'd it huh?
sidenote... How the hell does he get away with wearing this????
How is this not against some NCAA rule??
sidenote... How the hell does he get away with wearing this????
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Jeff Teague for President!
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Originally Posted by Seymore CAKE
He MJ'd it huh?
sidenote... How the hell does he get away with wearing this????
How is this not against some NCAA rule??
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I don't know Craft that @%+! just doesn't sit right with me... Like it should be something in that mountain of a manuscript the NCAA has whichprohibits such a debauchery
It just really bothers me.
It just really bothers me.
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Originally Posted by Seymore CAKE
I don't know Craft that @%+! just doesn't sit right with me... Like it should be something in that mountain of a manuscript the NCAA has which prohibits such a debauchery
It just really bothers me.
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63, but in 4 OT's. Impressive nonetheless.
ESPN's website says T-Will is the most complete player in the country...agree or disagree?
Craftsy or anybody else well versed in the A-10? I may have just got an internship covering UNC Charlotte home games, and outside of Dayton and Xavier, I'mclueless
ESPN's website says T-Will is the most complete player in the country...agree or disagree?
Craftsy or anybody else well versed in the A-10? I may have just got an internship covering UNC Charlotte home games, and outside of Dayton and Xavier, I'mclueless
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Craftsy with the scrabble points for using the word "douchier" in a sentence.
STAT OF THE NIGHT: Saint Mary's star guard Patty Mills sat out the entire second half of the Gaels loss to Gonzaga due to a wrist injury. Mills was ridiculous in the first half, scoring 18 points (6-of-8 from long distance) in just 17 minutes as Saint Mary's led the 'Zags at the break.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/clubhouse?teamId=2608
Updated: January 30, 2009, 2:38 PM ET
[h2]Mills out four weeks with broken hand[/h2]
Saint Mary's dream season took an unforeseen turn Friday as the Gaels learned that leading scorer Patty Mills broke his right hand in Thursday night's loss at Gonzaga.
Mills suffered a clean break and is expected to miss four weeks, a source close to the Gaels confirmed. The point guard and Olympian for Australia was examined by Gonzaga team doctors Friday morning and the break was discovered through X-rays. Mills will make a decision later today whether to let the break heal on its own or have a pin placed in the hand to try to speed his recovery. Mills will either fly with the team from Spokane to Portland for Saturday's game against the Pilots or return to Moraga, Calif., for surgery.
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What do you need to know, just some basics about the other squads this year or you want like some background on the history of the programs?Originally Posted by blazinjkid
63, but in 4 OT's. Impressive nonetheless.
ESPN's website says T-Will is the most complete player in the country...agree or disagree?
Craftsy or anybody else well versed in the A-10? I may have just got an internship covering UNC Charlotte home games, and outside of Dayton and Xavier, I'm clueless
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Hmm... let me give you a brief synopsis here, leaving out Dayton and the X-men.
As impressive as Daytons record is this year, Temple and Rhode Island are actually much better positioned currently as at-large candidates, althoughthey've both gotta get better in conference play quickly or they will be dropping.
St. Joes also has an outside shot at a bid if they keep playing well in conference.
Dukes, La Salle, and Richmond are the next tier below those top 5 squads, none of them can get an at-large in my opinion but they could be contenders in theconference tournament.
Below them, nobody else is really challenging this year. Fordham and GW are the absolute bottom dwellers, with Charlotte close behind.. none of those teamsdoes a damn thing well on either end of the court.
Umass, St. Louis and the Bonnies are all having disappointing season in my opinion... they are all very poor but shouldn't be quite so bad. I could seeone of them getting it together for a little run in the a-10 tourney though.
As far as good individual players you might now know much about...
Um... let's see..
Gaffney and Lowe for Umass are both solid, but again, disappointing.. part of that is the regime change up there, with their head coach bolting for OK Statethis season.
Baron at Rhode Island is ridiculous... he's the one that tore Duke up for a the better part of 40 minutes earlier this year. Kid is a tremendous shooter.Seawright and Cothran are both solid players there too.
La Salle is a team full of jr.s and sophs, they could be really decent next year. Barrett and Green seem to be the leaders of that team.
Temple lives and dies with Christmas, who will get a look in the pros. But Lavoy Allen might be having a better season than him in a lot of ways.
Jackson is by far Duquesne's best player, but he's the only senior on the team.. so this is another improving team, and I really like their coach outthere in the Burgh.
St. Joes, much like Temple.. lives and dies with one player in Nivins who is really good.
Hmm... don't know what else to really mention, that's about the extent of what i know off the top of my head if i think of anything else i'll letyou know. there was a guy in here somewhere who really liked a-10 hoops who i'm sure can fill in some blanks. good luck to you though, that's anexciting opportunity.
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Rotnei Clarke was lightin it up last night!
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Appreciate the info. Why do you say Temple and RI have a better chance of getting in than Dayton? Is that based purely on RPI? Dayton's got that win overMarquette, which looks extremely impressive at this point.
This Butler/Valpo game might be the worst basketball game I've ever had to endure.
This Butler/Valpo game might be the worst basketball game I've ever had to endure.
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Basically. The marquette win is nice, but they don't have another single win vs a team in the top 70 or so yet, with George Mason being theirnext best. And only 4 chances against top 50 teams the rest of the way. Overall they have the 279th toughest schedule so far.
Temple's SOS is 11th, while they only have 2 decent wins @ penn state and home vs tennessee. But losses to good teams are better for you than wins againstbad teams for the computers. That has Temple about 40 slots higher in the RPI.
Rhode Island is a similar story, though I'm a big shocked they end up about 30 slots higher than Dayton considering their schedule ranks 71st so far, andtheir only three real wins are penn state, temple, and vcu. Not bad wins, but not exactly great wins. Again though, it really comes down to schedule. Idon't think coaches realize how much better off you are if you play a brutal schedule and get beat up than you if you cruise through a bunch of cupcakes...they really punish you for the cupcakes now, which is good.
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Too harsh on the SEC? Let's check the numbers
Wednesday, January 28, 2009 | PrintEntry
Posted by Joe Lunardi
My comments on the SEC earlier this week apparently struck a nerve. Nothing like a littlehealthy debate, I always say. Here's one response:
Try breaking down the conferences as to what they have done. For example, I do not care about the records. Look at the good wins by conference. If you look at that, the SEC has as [many] good nonconference wins as any conference except the Big East. Just look at that. I do not care what they do in conference. I do not care about the records or rankings. I care about who you beat and who you lost to.
Example: Georgia is the worst team in the SEC and they beat Virginia Tech, who [also] beat Wake Forest. Arkansas beat Texas and Oklahoma and is 0-4 in the SEC. Tennessee beat the No. 1 team in the Big East [Marquette] and also beat Georgetown. Take a look at that before you start tearing them down completely.
By the way, the SEC will have five teams in the [NCAA] tourney. Yes, down from the normal six. You need to look at what will be instead of what is when doing this bracketology."
Signed,
Mind Your Bidness
And now my response:
Mr. Bidness,
First of all, that is a tremendous online handle. But it's only the second-best part of your post. My favorite sentence is this one: "I do not careabout the records." That's the thing, "Mind Your," Bracketology is all about records.
The bottom line is that the SEC's record this year is simply not strong, in spite of the legitimately good wins noted above. If you're going to dothis kind of analysis, it can't be partial. You must, as the old saying goes, buy the whole cow.
If we're going to talk about "good wins," for instance, then they must be examined across the board. Through Sunday, Jan. 25, here is how eachof the six power conferences had performed against InsideRPI Top 25 and Top 50 competition:
[th=""]Conf.[/th] [th=""]vs. 1-25 (pct.)[/th] [th=""]vs. 1-50 (pct.)[/th]
Big Ten 12-25 (.324) 37-46 (.446) Big 12 10-19 (.345) 24-33 (.421) ACC 13-25 (.342) 28-39 (.41 Big East 18-46 (.281) 34-62 (.354) Pac-10 4-12 (.250) 14-38 (.269) SEC 7-22 (.241) 11-38 (.224)
One could argue Pac-10 versus SEC in terms of "good wins," as long as we remember the Pac-10 has two fewer teams. When it comes to nonconferencechallenges (NonConf SOS), however, or performance away from home (LunaRPI), the SEC is again at the bottom of any objective analysis:
[th=""]Conf.[/th] [th=""]Nonconference SOS (avg.)[/th] [th=""]LunaRPI (avg.)[/th]
Big Ten 132.81 81.27 Big East 143.94 79.06 ACC 150 71.67 Big 12 154.50 109.67 Pac-10 163.70 75.30 SEC 185.92 123.25
Just for the heck of it -- and because I know there are a bunch of RPI non-fans out there -- below is the average Adjusted Scoring Margin (ASM) data forteams in the six power conferences (you can refresh yourself on themerits of ASM here):
[th=""]Conf.[/th] [th=""]Number of teams[/th] [th=""]ASM (avg.)[/th]
ACC 12 +12.52 ppg Big 12 12 +11.03 ppg Big East 16 +10.94 ppg Pac-10 10 +9.82 ppg SEC 12 +9.49 ppg Big Ten 11 +9.38 ppg
At last a category in which the SEC isn't, well, last. Buoyed with optimism, I go back to Mind Your's premise and track all relevant "who youbeat" and "who you lost to" data. Our fourth and final chart is the record to date of each power conference against the other five:
[th=""]Conf.[/th] [th=""]W-L vs. BCS[/th] [th=""]Winning percentage[/th]
ACC 27-18 .600 Big Ten 19-17 .528 Big East 21-20 .512 Big 12 19-21 .476 Pac-10 12-15 .444 SEC 15-21 .417
Your Honor, I rest my case.
Joe Lunardi is the resident Bracketologist for ESPN, ESPN.com and ESPN Radio. Comments may be sent to [email protected].
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Wana see if Providence can hang today.
ND and us will continue to a dig a hole.
Summers is probably out and 1 report of him in a boot with crutches.
Washington/ASU is a big game
ND and us will continue to a dig a hole.
Summers is probably out and 1 report of him in a boot with crutches.
Washington/ASU is a big game
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ND and G-Town both about to lose today.
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thanks Craftsy, even tho that article was stupid and a waste of time.
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get Digger off this show, please.
