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Originally Posted by SCuse7
Correct this isn't his first incident. He was on probation I think before this happened. Rell has said hes been involved in a number of incidents.Originally Posted by allen3xis
Mr. Magoo going to bat for Devendorf..
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And since everyone seems to know this is not the first run in with Devo and trouble and the fact he's already on probation (correct?)
this is really pathetic and desperate.
Now Boeheim went on all the local radio sports talk shows today. And he was pissed off at the attorney for the girl. Saying how he shouldn't have gone public and didn't act professionally at all.
He said that the three witnesses. All on the basketball team were not rehearsed in what they said. And all he ever told them to do was tell the truth. They all testified that Devendorf did get in a fight, but didn't hit her.
Now I didn't realize that the "board" is made of up 5 STUDENTS. Thats might be the dumbest thing I have heard. The university is allowing students to decide another kids basketball career basically. That is crazy.
I am not saying anyone is innocent or guilty. I wouldn't be surprised if the players stood up for Eric at all. But I can totally understand why Boeheim is flipping out.
-3 witnesses all said she wasn't hit.
-She is the only witness to say she was actually hit.
-She was drinking.
Now they will appeal and the appeals commitee is 2 faculty members and 1 student.
The whole situation is really *%%+$% up.
Charting Big East Basketball: Who's in It to Win It
by Jonathan Lintner (Scribe)
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Editorial
December 11, 2008
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The Big East has enough noteworthy teams to split the NCAA and call themselves a league. Loaded from top to bottom, it's potentially the greatest conference ever assembled for a single season of college hoops.
Some teams have emerged at the top, and the verdict is still out on a few schools that have gotten off to slow starts. Only three of the 16 Big East teams have lost more than twice, making it difficult to sort through the mess.
There's also the lowly bottom feeders, caught in the belly of the beast with no way out. Providence, Rutgers, DePaul and. South Florida won't be mentioned, and for good reason.
Below are the Big East contenders, pretenders, and some teams the country is still waiting on to shine.
Contenders
Connecticut (8-0): The Huskies tout a No. 2 ranking and feature five players who average double figures, shooting just under 50 percent a game. As long as some guy named Thabeet is standing in the paint, Connecticut will be the favorite to win the conference.
Pittsburgh (9-0): The Panthers have taken the reputation of their home city to the max, making up the toughest team in college basketball. Pittsburgh isn't the most talented team in the Big East, but its defense is stout, and post presence is solid.
Louisville (5-1): A loss to Western Kentucky served as a reality check for the best Louisville team since the big hair days of the 1980s. If freshman center Samardo Samuels can develop some post moves and a hunger for rebounds, the Cardinals could be looking at a trip to Ford Field.
Notre Dame (6-2): Already with two losses, most would discount the Irish's role as a dark horse to win the Big East. That would be wrong. Luke Harangody (25 pts, 16 rebounds while sick against Ohio State) and sharpshooter Kyle McAlarney will have Notre Dame hitting at the right time.
In-between
Syracuse (8-0): Eric Devendorf…where art thou? The Cuse's third leading scorer and main ball handler could be gone for the year, transforming the Orange from a contender to a "we'll see" team. Sophomore Johnny Flynn is now forced to carry the team.
Villanova (8-1): Texas had Villanova out-matched last Tuesday, and conventional reasoning would say Texas would have a rough time winning the Big East. That's why it will be even harder for the Wildcats to make it to the top.
Marquette (7-1): With the loss to Dayton being Marquette's only blemish, too much reliance on guard play could doom the Eagles. They need a big man, and although they lost in the blue jerseys, I say bring them back.
Pretenders
Georgetown (6-1): Despite the rise of Greg Monroe, Georgetown doesn't have the depth nor experience to win the Big East this season. Too much is gone from last season's juggernaut.
Cincinnati (6-1): Mick Cronin has done a great job in building the Bearcats back from where they were under Bob Huggins, but the job isn't finished quite yet. Cincy is going to endure a four-game December stretch that will test Cronin's team thoroughly, and a win against Xavier this Saturday could mean that the Bearcats are back.
West Virginia (6-2): The Mountaineers lost to Kentucky, played Mississippi too close, and flopped in a choke-job against Davidson. It's for those three reasons that West Virginia is too inconsistent to do much.
Seton Hall (7-1): The surprise team of the Big East so far, Seton Hall boasts a record nobody expected. Of course, they have only one good win, against USC that isn't looking so good just a few weeks later.
St. John's (7-1): The Red Storm has faced creampuffs galore and lost to a mediocre Boston College team. St. John's might find success in lesser conferences, but the Big East is too deep for them to have a .500 conference record.
Pretenders
Georgetown (6-1): Despite the rise of Greg Monroe, Georgetown doesn't have the depth nor experience to win the Big East this season. Too much is gone from last season's juggernaut.
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Pretenders
Georgetown (6-1): Despite the rise of Greg Monroe, Georgetown doesn't have the depth nor experience to win the Big East this season. Too much is gone from last season's juggernaut.
St. John's (7-1): The Red Storm has faced creampuffs galore and lost to a mediocre Boston College team. St. John's might find success in lesser conferences, but the Big East is too deep for them to have a .500 conference record.
I just wish they handed out creampuffs at the games
I honestly can't see us winning more than 5 games.
I just wish they handed out creampuffs at the gamesOriginally Posted by JohnnyRedStorm
St. John's (7-1): The Red Storm has faced creampuffs galore and lost to a mediocre Boston College team. St. John's might find success in lesser conferences, but the Big East is too deep for them to have a .500 conference record.
Originally Posted by The Wizard
I just wish they handed out creampuffs at the gamesOriginally Posted by JohnnyRedStorm
St. John's (7-1): The Red Storm has faced creampuffs galore and lost to a mediocre Boston College team. St. John's might find success in lesser conferences, but the Big East is too deep for them to have a .500 conference record.
I honestly can't see us winning more than 5 games.
Jerry's Mailbag
Re-ranking Wake
If you were going to re-evaluate the class of 2007 team rankings, where would you place Wake Forest? In only their sophomore seasons, James Johnson and Jeff Teague have already established themselves as some of the top players in the ACC and potential All-Americans.
-- Andrew from Winston-Salem
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James Johnson was the No. 16-ranked small forward prospect in 2007.
Both Teague and Johnson are having terrific sophomore seasons. Through eight games Teague is averaging 20.6 points and 4.9 assists, both team highs, as well as 4.0 rebounds and 2.3 steals. Johnson is Wake Forest's second-leading scorer at 14.8 points per game. He is also averaging 7.9 rebounds, 2.4 assists, 2.0 steals and 1.4 blocks.
Based on their production, I'd place Wake Forest's recruiting class at No. 12 in the 2007 team recruiting rankings. Just in front of Wake Forest are UCLA, Memphis and Indiana. All three of those teams had major impact one-and-done players in their classes. You could certainly argue that the impact Derrick Rose had for Memphis in his freshman season would call for Memphis' class to move up if revising the rankings. The same could be said for UCLA and Kevin Love.
But if we only adjust Wake Forest's recruiting class, I like them just ahead of Villanova, which is No. 12. Corey Fisher and Corey Stokes, Villanova's top two recruits in 2007, are playing well, but not to the level of Teague and Johnson. Fisher is averaging 10.0 points, 3.1 assists, 2.4 rebounds and 2.0 steals, while Stokes is averaging 12.7 points, 3.7 rebounds, 1.1 assists and 0.9 steals.
Under the radar
Who are the five (or so) best under-the-radar prospects left unsigned in the nation - players who have not garnered a lot of attention thus far (no 4 or 5 stars) but you feel will be good at the next level?
-- AGW from Newport News
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Here are some unranked three-star prospects who I think can be solid high-major players:
1. DeAndre Kane: The shooting guard out of Patterson (N.C.) School not only scores the basketball but also has a strong all-around game. He will likely be the recruiting target of Pittsburgh if the Panthers don't land Dominic Cheek, and Kane will likely enter the Rivals150 when it is revised.
Ferrakohn Hall's stock is on the rise.
2. Vincent Council: The Patterson (N.C.) School point guard does everything well except shoot the ball with range. The physical playmaker was close to deciding between Providence and Rutgers, but he is now waiting as more schools - Arkansas in particular - get involved.
3. Ferrakohn Hall: Prior to the summer the combo forward from Memphis (Tenn.) White Station was in the Rivals150, but his poor play over the summer knocked him out of the rankings. Hall appears to have things back in order and has been playing well this year for White Station. At the Marshall County Hoopfest, he claimed offers from Missouri, Arkansas, Memphis, UAB and Oklahoma State.
4. Emery Kelly: A forward out of Jackson (Miss.) Provine High, Kelly plays with a strong motor. He contributes defensively and on the boards, and he can also score.
5. Wendell Lewis: A big-bodied, low-post player for Selma (Ala.) High, Lewis has the size to bang with the big boys at the high-major level. Auburn and others are pursuing him.
Similar styles
What college player past or present would be the best comparison to John Wall?
-- Grady from Lawrence
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Derrick Rose seems to be the player Wall is compared with the most, and that is certainly a justifiable comparison. They are both extremely athletic and talented point guards, and outside shooting is the weakness in their games.
But I'll throw out another point guard who is playing extremely well who Wall reminds me of − Rajon Rondo.
Again, outside shooting is not the forte of either player. But both have unique athleticism with long arms and big hands. Both possess tremendous body control when moving at a high rate of speed. And they both are superior ball-handlers with the knack of making tough passes and high-degree-of-difficulty plays.
Surprise freshmen
After watching the first few weeks of the college basketball season, who have been the big surprises from the class of 2008?
-- Alex from Albany
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You have to start with Seth Curry at Liberty. He is the top scoring freshman in the country, averaging 21.4 points per game.
I didn't expect Courtney Fortson and Rotnei Clarke to average a combined 30 points per game for Arkansas. Fortson is also averaging 6.4 assists and 5.4 rebounds.
Georgetown's Greg Monroe (13.3 ppg) is scoring at a little higher clip than I expected. And Wake Forest's Al-Farouq Aminu (9.0 rpg) is rebounding at a higher clip than I expected.
Michael Dunigan is playing well for Oregon, averaging 14.0 points and 7.0 rebounds, and Ed Davis is looking good for North Carolina, scoring 9.4 points and grabbing 8.8 rebounds per game.
Georgia Tech's Iman Shumpert has a nice stat line of 12.7 points, 6.0 assists and 4.2 rebounds per game.
Still in it
It seems like Michigan State needs some more tough big men to get back to the hard-nosed, outrebounding-other-teams style that Tom Izzo likes to play. Will 2009 commits Derrick Nix and Garrick Sherman provide a big rebounding lift next season? It seems like Nix may be elevate his game and could move up the rankings.
-- Scott from Chicago
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I definitely agree with you, Scott. Michigan State does need more physical and tougher big men. Coach Izzo loves a smashmouth football style of basketball, but you need football-type basketball players to play that style. Nix certainly has the bulk to play that physical style of basketball. Reportedly he is in better shape than he was this summer and is playing good basketball.
Sherman is a player we hold in high regard because of his high skill level and feel for the game, but he is a finesse player and doesn't fit the mold of the post player you are looking for at Michigan State.
At UConn, Thabeet goes on
By Jason King, Yahoo! Sports Dec 11, 8:36 am EST
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Photo Connecticut's Hasheem Thabeet, right, blocks the shot of Western Carolina's Brandon Giles during the first half in Storrs, Conn., on Nov. 14, 2008.
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Thabeet's season superlatives
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His basketball prowess has yet to earn him a penny. Still, by the time Hasheem Thabeet's plane touched down in his native Tanzania two summers ago, the crowd had become so large that police closed the street leading to the airport.
Thabeet has met multiple times with his country's president and has spoken at five orphanages throughout his native land. Some of the children Thabeet talked with had AIDS. Most lived in poor conditions. On his final stop, Thabeet learned that an entire home of 50 could be fed for a mere $50 a day.
And so, before he left, Connecticut's 7-foot-3 center saw to it that each child would receive breakfast, lunch and dinner the following day.
"I just wish," Thabeet said, "that I could've done more."
Thabeet will get that chance. Barring an injury, the 270-pound junior is expected to be among the top 10 selections in this summer's NBA draft, meaning he'll become an instant millionaire the moment commissioner David Stern calls his name.
Thrilled as Thabeet will be to advance to the next level, folks will be equally excited in Tanzania, where Thabeet's No. 34 Connecticut jersey is sported regularly by the fans who view him as a national hero.
Never has Tanzania been able to boast a sports figure as well known as Thabeet, who earned Big East Defensive Player of the Year honors last season after averaging a national-best 4.5 blocks.
Despite playing just 72 college games, Thabeet has become a pioneer in a country with zero basketball tradition. Tanzania's national team has qualified for the FIBA African Championship just once in the past 46 years. Until recently, most of the youths in Thabeet's hometown of Dar es Salaam hoped to become soccer stars.
"Now, when I go back, it's mind-blowing how many kids are out in the streets playing basketball," Thabeet said. "They've come a long way."
So, too, has Thabeet.
Hasheem Thabeet said he can be "the most dominant player in college basketball." It's a form of confidence that Thabeet hardly carried six years ago, when he stepped onto a court for the very first time.
"I was scared," he said.
"I picked up the ball, shot a free throw and it was good. Lots of people were looking at me and laughing because I was so much taller than everyone else. But they were all like, 'You can play. You can do it.' That's how it all started."
- Hasheem Thabeet, on his first experience playing pickup basketball as a 6-foot-8, 15-year-old.
Although his first love had always been soccer, Thabeet was fascinated each time he stopped by the playground to watch adults play pickup basketball games. Because he stood 6-8 at age 15, it only seemed natural when one of the men asked Thabeet if he'd like to participate.
"I picked up the ball, shot a free throw and it was good," Thabeet said. "Lots of people were looking at me and laughing because I was so much taller than everyone else. But they were all like, 'You can play. You can do it.' That's how it all started."
It only took a few months for basketball to become Thabeet's passion.
Eventually he began making daily trips to an Internet café, where he performed searches to find the websites of various small colleges throughout the United States. Thabeet sent emails to each school's basketball coach, asking if he'd have any interest in a 6-foot-8 teenager with a heart as big as his 7-5 wingspan.
"I [reached] one of the Loyola colleges - I don't know which one - and they said, 'You are Muslim. You can't come to our school,'" Thabeet said. "It made me think I couldn't go to any Christian school in the U.S. After that I stopped sending out emails."
It didn't matter.
Soon after, a man named Oliver Noah saw Thabeet play in a high school tournament in Kenya. Noah is an American businessman who scouts African players for prep schools. Noah convinced Hasheem's mother that her son would have college scholarship opportunities if he moved to the United States to attend high school.
Photo Hashem Thabeet guards Rob Jones of San Diego during the first round of the 2008 NCAA Tournament on March 21 in Tampa.
(Doug Benc/Getty Images)
Just like that, Thabeet found himself in California - his first of three stops before signing with Connecticut. On his first visit to campus, Thabeet walked into the gym for the Huskies' game against Louisville sporting a pair of sunglasses and a white velour sweat suit. He was quick to earn the affection of his teammates, who nicknamed him "Hollywood" and joked that he was "Americanized."
"He imitates everything he sees on campus or on TV," forward Jeff Adrien said. "You wouldn't even know he was [foreign] except for the way he talks."
Adrien chuckled.
"He's just a typical, 7-3 college student," he said.
Thabeet said he learned English from the missionaries who used to visit his church in Tanzania and from watching "Family Matters" and "The Cosby Show" when he was little.
"And I listened to Puff Daddy," Thabeet said. "A lot the things that are popular in America are popular in [Africa], too."
At UConn, Thabeet has done his best to remain active in campus life, where it's not uncommon for him to stop and talk with strangers as he walks to class. Thabeet is quick to give an autograph, and he's been known to show up at soccer and volleyball games to cheer.
But only when he has a free evening.
Last fall, for the third time, Thabeet went to New York for a meeting with Tanzanian president Jakaya Kikwete, who was in town for the opening of the UN General Assembly. Thabeet showed up wearing a suit and tie - a far cry from the jeans and baseball cap he sported during their previous encounter.
"When you grow up as a player, you have to grow up as a person," Thabeet said. "It's been a long process, but I think I've done that."
Hasheem Thabeet said he wants his game to be "old school." He watched tapes of some of basketball's all-time great centers - guys such as Hakeem Olajuwon and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - and hoped that his game will some day resemble theirs.
"If he went to the NBA he could probably be [contributing] right now because he can block shots. But two or three years down the road, he's going to be one of those special players in the NBA, because there aren't that many 7-3, 270-pound athletes. He can run, he can dunk, he can block shots and rebound."
- Connecticut coach Jim Calhoun, on Thabeet's pro future.
Thabeet has showed maturity and patience when it comes to honing his skills.
While Thabeet could've easily jumped to the NBA after his freshman and sophomore seasons, he's chosen to remain at Connecticut to learn under longtime Huskies coach Jim Calhoun.
"If he went to the NBA he could probably be (contributing) right now because he can block shots," Calhoun said. "But two or three years down the road, he's going to be one of those special players in the NBA, because there aren't that many 7-3, 270-pound athletes. He can run, he can dunk, he can block shots and rebound.
"He's a great story of what happens when a kid stays in college."
Not that the decision to remain in school was easy. Connecticut went an uncharacteristic 17-14 during Thabeet's freshman season, a finish that left him both frustrated and questioning his future in school.
"I really thought about leaving," he said. "I didn't believe in myself. We were losing a lot of games and I didn't see myself getting any better. I wanted to get college over with and try the NBA.
"But there were a lot of guys entering the draft - a lot of experienced big men like the guys from Florida - so I decided to come back for my sophomore year. I couldn't have made a better decision."
Thabeet's scoring average improved from 6.2 points to 10.5 as a sophomore, when he helped lead the Huskies to a 24-9 record. Projected as a first-round draft pick, no one would've blamed Thabeet had he chosen to turn pro.
Especially considering his family situation.
Thabeet's father died when he was 17, leaving his mother, Rukia, to support the family. Thabeet said Rukia sells African clothing. He has a younger sister named Sham and a younger brother named Akbar, who plays soccer at St. Thomas More Prep in Oakdale, Conn. - just 45 minutes away from the UConn campus.
Photo Hasheem Thabeet blocks a shot by Gonzaga forward Larry Gurganious.
(Greg M. Cooper/US Presswire)
"[Coach Calhoun] told me I could leave if I wanted to leave," Thabeet said. "He gave me a bunch of information and I decided to stay. The decision I made was the right decision. I know people that say, 'Oh, he might get hurt,' but I don't listen to them. I'm excited about our team. It's mind-blowing how good we could be this year.
"We're a scary team."
No. 2 Connecticut has won its first eight games and is considered the favorite to win the most competitive conference in basketball - the Big East. If the Huskies accomplish the feat it will be largely because of Thabeet, who's averaging 14.5 points and 12.5 rebounds after snaring just 7.9 last season.
Although he still needs to work on playing with his back to the basket, Thabeet's teammates said he's 10 times more aggressive than he's been in the past.
"He's able to do a lot of things he couldn't do when he first got here," point guard A.J. Price said. "That's because of all the extra work he put in over the summer. When he came back he had the attitude of, 'I want to get better. I want to help UConn win.' You can see it in him. He's very humble."
Thabeet plans to remain that way once the inevitable happens on draft night this June. The riches that accompany being a first-round selection will be nice - but so, too, will be the increased influence he'll have in foreign lands.
Thabeet has said he'd like to work with Basketball Without Borders, which runs programs in various countries using basketball as a universal language. Perhaps some day Thabeet could be to Tanzania what Olajuwon was to Nigeria.
Thabeet's main hope is that his emergence will lead to opportunities for others. Africa has long been considered an untapped resource for college and professional basketball players, with many top talents going unrecognized.
"There are a lot of kids there that no one knows about," Thabeet said. "They don't get opportunities. There's no infrastructure and no good training or facilities. Hopefully I can go back there some day and run some camps."
He paused.
"The good thing," Thabeet said, "is that, even without all of that, everyone there believes they can play basketball now. And they know it's not something you're born with, but something you have to work at. They've seen that through me."
Jason
guiltyOriginally Posted by allen3xis
[font=Arial, Helvetica]Game worth flying to see in person:There is exactly one game this weekend featuring two Top 25 teams, and that game will be played Saturday in Washington, D.C., between No. 17 Memphis and No. 19 Georgetown. On the court will be two one-loss teams (Memphis lost to Xavier, Georgetown to Tennessee), three freshmen starters (Wesley Witherspoon, Tyreke Evans and Greg Monroe), four McDonald's All-Americans (Evans, Monroe, Chris Wright and Austin Freeman) and a partridge in a pear tree.[/font]