- Oct 10, 2008
- 10,756
- 9,096
A Monta Ellis essay tho....... 
The 2014-2015 NBA Season Thread. Lock It Up Please: The Golden State Warriors Are The Champions
- Thread in 'Sports & Training' Thread starter Started by antidope,
- Start date
- Status
- May 10, 2006
- 27,365
- 64,653
how on earth did the Clippers get "handled"? They went to 6 games and if it weren't for a historical choke job it would have gone 7. Just say you don't like the Clippers. It will be way more reasonable than what you're saying right now 
- Jul 28, 2009
- 6,574
- 888
Just saw that Monta shot :x :x
Mavs are always a problem, IMO . Dirk has already proved he can be the best player on a championship team, so they're contenders every year until Dirk breaks down, as far as im concerned .
Celtics squeezing out the win yesterday
Mavs are always a problem, IMO . Dirk has already proved he can be the best player on a championship team, so they're contenders every year until Dirk breaks down, as far as im concerned .
Celtics squeezing out the win yesterday
- Aug 9, 2012
- 17,777
- 6,406
I remember when Monta was playing for Goldern State everyone on NT wanted to say I was crazy for saying he was an All Star. Or that he was still Monta when he was with the Bucks....now everyone want to bring up Monta name up
- Aug 11, 2012
- 55,518
- 147,144
Monta always got love on NT. It's funny...he's efficient when he's on a good team with good coaching and pieces around him.
Look at what he was doing in the "we believe era". Monta shot 50% then. Then, he was stuck on bad teams and his efficiency dropped. Dude is talented and has been for a while. He got a bad rap.
Him and an 08-11 Josh Smith were players that deserved to make the All Star team...but politics got in the way.
- Feb 25, 2010
- 24,952
- 23,299
Celtics squeezing out the win yesterday
antidope
Supporter
- Jan 2, 2012
- 63,526
- 68,113
Hes been snubbed from the ASG at least two times, the last GSW year being the one that bothered me the most.
http://niketalk.com/t/328322/nba-al...st-game-debate-why-didnt-rose-dance-pg-115/30
Annoyed me so much when he got snubbed man
- Feb 6, 2011
- 40,141
- 11,080
I am sure you have been watching these Mavericks the past two years as much as I have, and if not, you're still a smart enough guy to know just how well he has played over the past two seasons now with Dallas.
I'm not going to sit here and spew about Dallas' chances at contending, that talk is for April/May. I'm not going to spew about Dirk either.
But Monta has been a treat to watch over the last year and a half. It's just a blast. He's quickly become my fourth favorite Maverick player of all-time, surpassing Jason Terry. JET was great, he was clutch at times, and he was huge in the finals for us, but the effort that Monta puts out there all the damn time to put the team on HIS back to win by any means necessary, it's a beauty to watch unfold.
He just works so well under Carlisle. We all know Carlisle can turn junk into treasure, but what happens when your junk is as talented as Monta is? What makes Monta such a treat to watch is his ability to not just get to the basket, but to be creative once he's there. It's not the fancy finishes, or the consistent outside shooting, it's the dishing to others, it's taking charges and playing passing lanes. As a collective, he's turning into one of the most versatile players the Mavericks have seen in an extremely long time.
And when the game is on the line, it's Monta's time to shine. This guy has had more moments in games I feel like than any other Maverick not named Dirk Nowitzki. Everyone loved Jason Terry for what he did for the Mavericks, but the magnitude of impact Monta has had on these Mavericks is the biggest impact since Dirk came on board. Again, I won't get into the hypotheticals of title contention, but Monta is the first guy I can now trust down the stretch of games to take over. Did Kidd, Nash, and Terry all have big moments for us? Yeah of course.
But Monta has had that killer instinct that only Dirk has had for the Mavericks all these years. He has the same instinct that Tyson Chandler has had for this team in both stints he's had here (don't get me started about Tyson either, that's another story for another time). The prowess and demeanor that Monta has shown the past two years makes me confident that the Mavericks can lean on him once Dirk retires. Will we be a great time once Dirk retires if we only rely on Monta? No of course not, but am I starting to see that Monta can be a huge piece going forward under Rick Carlisle? Absolutely.
Just look at what Chandler Parsons has done in his short time here, and compare it to what Monta Ellis did when he got here. I know, Parsons has had a short sample size to deal with, but he's had his struggles. It's no secret that Dallas was hoping for more when they signed him. There's still time to improve, but he has a lot of work to do. From the gate, Monta has been everything that we had hoped for, and then about 1,000x more.
It's the selflessness that he brings every game that just shines each game. Will he be ball-dominant at times? Of course. He is Monta after all. But what I have learned to live with is that I trust the guy. He has enough talent around him to realize when he needs to take over, or when he needs to get others involved. His pick and roll game with both Dirk and Tyson has been nothing short of spectacular. Seeing him explode for double-digit quarters and taking no prisoners is a thing of beauty, because it is so effortless. Yet he doesn't bring the team down, it's not a Brandon Jennings streakyness. It's him realizing that his team needs a boost, and he's not going to stop until his team is in a better position.
Seeing the respect between Tyson, Dirk, and Monta is so encouraging as a fan who had lost most hope just a few seasons prior. Before Monta had come, we were dealing with OJ Mayo (who displayed tonight why he was never going to be the future of Dallas basketball), Mike James, and Darren Collison. Nothing against those guys, but those aren't players who are going to build you a franchise. When I watched Dallas push San Antonio last year, and how hard Monta was trying to will his team to victory, I was astonished. I had only seen two guys go to that extent to help this team before, and those two men were Dirk and Tyson, who gave it all for this team in two very different ways. Monta, although admittedly not a great defender by any means, gives it his all on both ends, something neither of those guys do. Monta will take a bump as hard as anyone on the defensive end trying to get his team the ball back. Seeing the determination in Monta's demeanor trying to will his way to victory against San Antonio is what showed me that this guy is about Maverick's basketball.
I admire everything that the guy has done for my team. In a short amount of time, he has given Dallas hope again when there was none. It's the same kind of inspiring hope that Tyson Chandler brought to Dallas in his first stint. Before Tyson Chandler came to Dallas in 2011, there was always a gaping hole in the hearts of Mavericks fans. We never had a big to compliment Dirk Nowitzki properly. Now, Monta has brought new hope that we've also never seen before; Monta brings reliable scoring and execution down the stretch of basketball games that frees Dirk up from having to carry the burden of this team on his back, which he's had to do since Nash and Fin left in 2004 and 2005 respectively.
Lastly, it is not speaking to Dallas' title aspirations this year, it is speaking to the fact that people are having faith in Dallas basketball again. A faith that wavered after we were demoralized in 2006, a faith that was revitalized by Tyson Chandler in 2011, a faith that had wavered after that point, and now a faith of potential from this point on.
Monta has said it best himself, “The first time I ever walked into the [Mavericks] locker room, I could feel myself starting to enjoy the game again,” Monta Ellis stated. “That’s when I knew it was going to be different for me. There was just a different vibe that I got when I walked in there, just letting me know that everything was going to change, that it was going to be different here. That’s when I realized what was wrong before.”
Thanks Monta.
what he did to my bulls (even if it was damn near 45 shots) sheesh
- Feb 6, 2011
- 40,141
- 11,080
- Feb 26, 2013
- 13,852
- 9,062
Rose is one wrong move from ending his career, he's done IMO, I don't like Curry, i never have i never will, that's just how i feel about it period
yeah but Rose ain't MVP form anymore and i highly doubt he ever will be again, I do like Wall who already has a shoe since this was about desrving of a sig shoeIm a huge kyrie fan but he aint touchin mvp rose
John wall on the other hand
- Aug 11, 2012
- 55,518
- 147,144
Thanks for bumping that. That's what I was referring to in my earlier post. Josh Smith and Monta got robbed sooooo bad that year.
Coaches must've hated them.
- Feb 6, 2011
- 40,141
- 11,080
Rose is one wrong move from ending his career, he's done IMO, I don't like Curry, i never have i never will, that's just how i feel about it period
View media item 1222399
Im a huge kyrie fan but he aint touchin mvp rose
John wall on the other hand
yeah but Rose ain't MVP form anymore and i highly doubt he ever will be again, I do like Wall who already has a shoe since this was about desrving of a sig shoe
i can fell the hate in your post....prbly typed it with ya shirt off
- Sep 18, 2003
- 61,871
- 134,126
If you don't like steph curry, you don't like life
- Apr 23, 2014
- 44,693
- 17,049
Handled means they lost dude, and it wasn't close. I don't know what you think it means but, Don't look too much into that word coming from me then, it's obviously a different meaning for different people, maybe it's an Oklahoma thing.
If that's what you guys are now wanting to argue though, the regional definition of "handled", I'll take the L.
I thought my "tomatoe/tomahto" reference cleared that up, maybe it didn't. Anyway, as WavyCrockett said, an L is an L, so why argue handled then.
Last edited:
- Aug 11, 2012
- 55,518
- 147,144
The day y'all turn on Steph b/c he doesn't win a chip.....
I can see it now lol.
- Sep 18, 2003
- 61,871
- 134,126
Only 14 guys win a title every year. Stephs greatness can't be defined by titles.
- Feb 26, 2013
- 13,852
- 9,062
personally I dont really care about any player that doesn't play for a TX team, but i like shoes and that's all that matters to me, NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL it doesn't matter I rep my state and only my state everybody else is 2nd class players IMO
@ColdCity
Last edited:
$tacy
formerly willchamberlain
- Nov 24, 2012
- 26,246
- 25,191
I know steph ain't winning no chip no time soon but he is fun as hell to watch and is better than kyrie
- Feb 6, 2011
- 40,141
- 11,080
nah ... nt wont turn on steph like they did oj
personally I dont really care about any player that doesn't play for a TX team, but i like shoes and that's all that matters to me, NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL it doesn't matter I rep my state and only my state everybody else is 2nd class players IMO
@ColdCity
100% agree
- Jan 20, 2002
- 54,307
- 31,865
been saying this as well. im in the minority when saying monta>steph. obviously, steph is having a great couple yrs, but i think if monta was surrounded by talent he would shine just as much, and he is showing last couple yrs.
really thought he shouldve been an AS last yr and that one yr in GS. his efficiency was crazy when he ran with baron and came off the bench. remember he was shooting in the 50s for a long stretch. that midrange gm was on point. think when the talent left and he played with guys like rob kurz, kelena, reggie williams, injured steph, he basically started to chuck the ball since he was the only option and got the reputation as a selfish player. never thought that, just someone that had zero help. didnt help that don nelson (who i think is overrated) played him 48 minutes a game and ran him to exhaustion and later threw him under the bus after he retired.
offset pow clow
Banned
- May 24, 2014
- 5,567
- 1,209
Back in GS Some used to say monta wasnt a starter on a contender
- Sep 5, 2010
- 92,862
- 129,180
View media item 1288411
Toronto might not get caught for #1 in the East.
Toronto might not get caught for #1 in the East.
- Aug 20, 2001
- 29,035
- 64,023
THIS!
- Feb 10, 2003
- 22,262
- 11,073
- Oct 18, 2011
- 23,917
- 10,644
Steph came into the league disliked so he already dealt with NT adversity
Turned me into a believer, now he's one of my favorite players.
Turned me into a believer, now he's one of my favorite players.
- Status
