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i dont think they gave lucas much credit at all, they say he basically accidentally included all the good points
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Yeah, without focusing on it like he should've.
A lot of the stuff is there just portrayed in a different light or glossed over. The children as padawans training with light sabers, the implied want for the Sith to be wiped out, the council and all of their damn rules.
What he wanted to change and the movie to be was some things with Anakin, the love story with Padme, etc.
One thing that article didn't fully touch on that I've wondered about is why Jedi can't have relationships or children. It's simple really, family drama, spousal conflict. What do those things cause? Stress, fear, frustration leading to anger, etc. all things leading to the dark side. On top of that your commitment, duty, and loyalty are strained. How can you fully be a Jedi knight and have a family at home? Being a Jedi is clearly not the same thing as joining the rebellion. Being a pilot and fighting in the war is a means to an end. You're fighting for what you believe in so you can go back to your family and live in a better galaxy. Being a Jedi, the closest thing to that family experience is your fellow Jedi. That's it. Other than that the force is the only thing that will comfort you.
Quite frankly, the simplest way to show Anakin turning to the dark side in eps II & III would've been to put his mother in danger and have his duty to the Jedi get in the way of that (protecting some politicians) and have him be too late to save his moms. Then he'd blame the Jedi's ineffectiveness for ppl that really deserve their help. Then have the whole thing be planned by Sidious. The final nail on the coffin would've been letting him know Padme was pregnant and then Palpatine telling him she died. Then you show him raged out killing all of the Jedi except for Yoda and Obi-Wan gets him good to where he needs his Vader suit.
As for that RotJ stuff, and why Vader still brought Luke to Sidious knowing he'd die and be replaced by his son. I almost still want to say some force mind control was involved. Re-watching I badly wanted it to be the case that Vader was plotting to take out Sidious and do what he said in ESB and have it be he and his son ruling the Empire but that motive would've made it close to impossible for Anakin to redeem himself.
A lot of the stuff is there just portrayed in a different light or glossed over. The children as padawans training with light sabers, the implied want for the Sith to be wiped out, the council and all of their damn rules.
What he wanted to change and the movie to be was some things with Anakin, the love story with Padme, etc.
One thing that article didn't fully touch on that I've wondered about is why Jedi can't have relationships or children. It's simple really, family drama, spousal conflict. What do those things cause? Stress, fear, frustration leading to anger, etc. all things leading to the dark side. On top of that your commitment, duty, and loyalty are strained. How can you fully be a Jedi knight and have a family at home? Being a Jedi is clearly not the same thing as joining the rebellion. Being a pilot and fighting in the war is a means to an end. You're fighting for what you believe in so you can go back to your family and live in a better galaxy. Being a Jedi, the closest thing to that family experience is your fellow Jedi. That's it. Other than that the force is the only thing that will comfort you.
Quite frankly, the simplest way to show Anakin turning to the dark side in eps II & III would've been to put his mother in danger and have his duty to the Jedi get in the way of that (protecting some politicians) and have him be too late to save his moms. Then he'd blame the Jedi's ineffectiveness for ppl that really deserve their help. Then have the whole thing be planned by Sidious. The final nail on the coffin would've been letting him know Padme was pregnant and then Palpatine telling him she died. Then you show him raged out killing all of the Jedi except for Yoda and Obi-Wan gets him good to where he needs his Vader suit.
As for that RotJ stuff, and why Vader still brought Luke to Sidious knowing he'd die and be replaced by his son. I almost still want to say some force mind control was involved. Re-watching I badly wanted it to be the case that Vader was plotting to take out Sidious and do what he said in ESB and have it be he and his son ruling the Empire but that motive would've made it close to impossible for Anakin to redeem himself.
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Making the Jedi out to be the bad guys and anakins push in the other direction seem like the right thing to do is just genius writing with a great understanding of the concepts behind what makes the force so interesting
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caught both of them and they where hilarious
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R2 will always be #1 for me cuz of the nostalgia, but BB-8's a very-close #2. One thing that works in BB-8's favor is that they were able to make him much more expressive than R2 with his movement and other CGI effects. More charismatic. The part on the Falcon with Rey and Finn going back and forth with BB-8 turning his head back and forth had me
Yeah, unfortunately, at certain parts, it felt more Carrie than Leia to me... Oh well.
I didn't know either till I saw this!
I only caught that during my 2nd viewing...
yoda told gin that he couldnt have two students when yoda has classes with like 20 kids
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Isaac is killing it of late. Dudes in Ex Mchina, as Poe, and as Apocalypse
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Sat through it with the flu 
Movie was great though can't wait to see it again 
Movie was great though can't wait to see it again
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Yes, didn't realize he was in that too!
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If you go it is vital that u sit as high up and as close to the center as possible. If u sit to the side it can impact alot.
It was a great experience to see ot there but some scenes were fast and man was it difficult to keep up at times lol
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Great stuff in here...
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Damn, man. Wasted so much time reading that. Good stuff in there.
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good point.
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That was a great Star Wars read.
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How many times have you guys seen it so far?
I've seen it twice...I still want to see it again lol
I've seen it twice...I still want to see it again lol
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^I've seen it twice on Saturday.
Hoping to see the movie one more time in IMAX.
Hoping to see the movie one more time in IMAX.
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I'm all for watching movies multiple times.
Same day though?
Same day though?
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4 times, and only cuz I missed it on saturday. I have seen it in IMAX 3D (expensive but so worth it!), 3D (still good), regular theaters twice. I gotta say that IMAX 3D is tha !@#$, my fam came thru with 1st showing and tickets were like 13 USD (
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The original plan was to watch the movie in the AM (That was my scheduled alone time from our newborn babyI'm all for watching movies multiple times.
Same day though?
Came home and wife ended up reading the reviews and wanted to watch the movie, so we decided to watch it in the evening.
Plus, I was still shook from what happened to my favorite character
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I've seen it twice.
Saw it opening night in 2D on a regular (albeit larger) screen. Saw it yesterday in IMAX 3D and that was great too. I hadn't seen SW in 3D before (I know TPM was re-done for theaters). The opening crawl in 3D is really cool. Seeing it again on Christmas day in IMAX 3D again
Saw it opening night in 2D on a regular (albeit larger) screen. Saw it yesterday in IMAX 3D and that was great too. I hadn't seen SW in 3D before (I know TPM was re-done for theaters). The opening crawl in 3D is really cool. Seeing it again on Christmas day in IMAX 3D again
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I've seen it twice.
On advance screening night last Thursday in 3D and in IMAX 3D last Sunday night.
I plan on watching it 3 more times in IMAX 3D.
On advance screening night last Thursday in 3D and in IMAX 3D last Sunday night.
I plan on watching it 3 more times in IMAX 3D.
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Twice too. Both in glorious 2D.
I guess 3D IMAX is next.
I guess 3D IMAX is next.
