Star Wars Universe Thread: May The 4th Be With You

[blackboyfly]

Different read the synopsis. Have already spoiled most of this movie for myself. Would like to see at least one or two surprises

If the Luke stuff is in there though... How do you guys feel about that? I feel like that is really going to piss off everyone

 

[bballermarkie]

Read a paragraph and then resisted the Dark Side

Came back to the spoiler free world

 

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[39478]

If that story holds to be true...

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[danger style]

Yeah it seems underwhelming if true. I'm especially disappointed in...

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Luke just having a tiny cameo at the very end

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I think the Luke material is sufficient...it makes for a nice cliffhanger into the next movie. The flashback scenes of his failure trying to start the new jedi temple is verrrry interesting.

Plus, You don't really need him playing a mentor role right now because you have Han filling that role. Having Luke play a big supporting role would be a little bit of overkill. We still need to ultimately make the new big three the main focus of the movies. Han goes in this movie and Luke fills in for the following ones. Think of it like Obi-Wan and Yoda in ANH and ESB.

 

[danger style]

The almost complete synopsis of TFA is now up at makingstarwars.net if you're interested is spoilers.

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http://makingstarwars.net/2015/05/a-compiled-synopsis-of-star-wars-the-force-awakens/

JJ bouta drop a classic on us

 

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[noblekane]

Naw they dropped the ball.

 

[noblekane]

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how you gonna kill han without fully explaining if they his kids or not??? How you gonna talk about lando being in the next movie with han dead? Lando coming to reunite with r2d2??? How you gonna not explain the backstory of why leia and hans only meeting is awkward? I wanna see luke leia and han together again! And because these doofuses are so intent on selling crap they rather spread og characters out to each movie. I swear they better ressurect han solo. Hell put his torso on top of an R2 droid if you have to!

 

[illmatic34]

Guys, don't take that as bible. Too lazy to type my thoughts, but this is from reddit:

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Rey and Finn happening upon the Millennium Falcon, which then just happens to get scooped up by a large freighter piloted by Han Solo, who just happens to be Rey's long absent father, are too cheap a series of massive coincidences that happen sequentially, in short order. It's unsellable on screen.
And that's before you even get into Kylo Ren's possible parentage. I don't see how or why you'd take Leia & Han and turn them into divorced, absentee parents who just let their kids disappear into obscurity. It would be like the Lindbergh baby of the era. Except Lindbergh, in this case, didn't give much of a ****.
The de facto leaders of the Alliance were able to organize an entire rebellion, but lacked the will and resources to keep one child from becoming an abandon salvage rat on an old battlefield planet and the other from becoming the Empire/First Order's number two?
I get that Star Wars is about cycles and family, but that's just way too on the nose. Solo's death is way too early and really shouldn't occur for the direct benefit of characters you've barely met on screen; it belongs in the second or third movie.
Also, starting with Luke/Anakin's lightsaber floating through space is a mistake; it's not nearly in line with the grandiose-scale space openings of previous Star Wars movies.
There is also going to need to be a very specific strategic and practical importance to the lightsaber established early on; Leia doesn't dispatch (presumably) one of the Resistance's top pilots, and Kylo Ren doesn't slaughter an entire village to get it just because he's like Vader's biggest, super duper fanboi. The lightsaber's historical connection to Anakin/Luke isn't enough for its modern importance to go unexplained or merely implied.
Nor can it simply be left to the imagination how the lightsaber got from a Cloud City (ventilation duct?) into space, tumbling aimlessly for ~30+ years.

 

[noblekane]

Its something that would open in spaceballs 2

 

[noblekane]

Guys, don't take that as bible. Too lazy to type my thoughts, but this is from reddit:

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Rey and Finn happening upon the Millennium Falcon, which then just happens to get scooped up by a large freighter piloted by Han Solo, who just happens to be Rey's long absent father, are too cheap a series of massive coincidences that happen sequentially, in short order. It's unsellable on screen.
And that's before you even get into Kylo Ren's possible parentage. I don't see how or why you'd take Leia & Han and turn them into divorced, absentee parents who just let their kids disappear into obscurity. It would be like the Lindbergh baby of the era. Except Lindbergh, in this case, didn't give much of a ****.
The de facto leaders of the Alliance were able to organize an entire rebellion, but lacked the will and resources to keep one child from becoming an abandon salvage rat on an old battlefield planet and the other from becoming the Empire/First Order's number two?
I get that Star Wars is about cycles and family, but that's just way too on the nose. Solo's death is way too early and really shouldn't occur for the direct benefit of characters you've barely met on screen; it belongs in the second or third movie.
Also, starting with Luke/Anakin's lightsaber floating through space is a mistake; it's not nearly in line with the grandiose-scale space openings of previous Star Wars movies.
There is also going to need to be a very specific strategic and practical importance to the lightsaber established early on; Leia doesn't dispatch (presumably) one of the Resistance's top pilots, and Kylo Ren doesn't slaughter an entire village to get it just because he's like Vader's biggest, super duper fanboi. The lightsaber's historical connection to Anakin/Luke isn't enough for its modern importance to go unexplained or merely implied.
Nor can it simply be left to the imagination how the lightsaber got from a Cloud City (ventilation duct?) into space, tumbling aimlessly for ~30+ years.

They want you to buy the books. Thats why alot isnt explained and doesnt make sense.

 

[CP1708]

First of all, much of that is likely quite true. But that was again an outline of rumors all put together by someone.

And the whole point of what JJ has been doing is misdirection. I can assure you there is some subterfuge goin on somewhere in there.


Do most of those key moments happen? Probably. But clearly much more polished than just a simple outline is going to give us. And with acting, score, emotion, directing, all that cleans up real nicely.

 

[noblekane]

We all knew that what is in that spoiler would probably happen but:

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why kill han in the first movie? Let us old fans have that one last moment with everyone together on screen atleast! Now we will never see luke and han together again or the big three for that matter. They can keep their lando cameo in the second movie. They shoulda just used the old expanded universe.

 

[CP1708]

There is no need for any of them at all, ever tho man.

It's been 30 damn years, the universe is so freaking huge, we never, ever, ever needed any of the main characters to come back at all. They simply did it as a way to connect the dots so to speak, and open the new world to everyone, young and old, and then progress the story from there.

And I bet anything, in time, someday, we will see all of them, Luke, Leia, Han, Chewie, etc, on screen together, with new actors/actresses playing them, in new stories. Not a doubt in my mind.

Similar to what you see with the X-Men franchise, or the Star Trek franchise, A new Indiana Jones, or plenty of others.

Might be 5 years, could be 10 years, maybe 15, but in time, someday, we will see those characters as younger actors portrayed, some untold story from after Jedi, before the Force Awakens. Too much money to be made for that not to happen.

But first, we have to let the OG's come on screen again, and take a bow so to speak. Same as how Obi Wan and Yoda weren't central parts to the OG trilogy, but were a bigger part of the prequels.

 

[blackboyfly]

^^^^^

I mean...

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They're technically doing that already with the Luke flashbacks

 

[CP1708]

I must have misunderstood, someone else is taking care of that part?

I just thought they meant him, maybe CGI'd a smidge to look different.

 

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[blackboyfly]

I must have misunderstood, someone else is taking care of that part?

I just thought they meant him, maybe CGI'd a smidge to look different.

You may be right. I don't think they've said.

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Although they're were rumors that they had casted a young princess Leia. So who knows.

 

[celticspride34]

I must have misunderstood, someone else is taking care of that part?

I just thought they meant him, maybe CGI'd a smidge to look different.

You may be right. I don't think they've said.

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Although they're were rumors that they had casted a young princess Leia. So who knows.

Young Soandso could be 12 or 13 though...

 

[noblekane]

I bet we get a child chewbacca in the han solo origin film

 

[noblekane]

I think they should go with an unknown actor if they go with a solo origin film.

The name han solo sells itself no need for a big name. Just get a young actor that really looks like harrison ford

 

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[celticspride34]

I bet we get a child chewbacca in the han solo origin film

Remember fully grown Chewy in Sith?..

 

[celticspride34]

Would rather have a Boba Fett movie then a Han Solo movie at this point. 

Should be a Solo and Fett movie.. Cat and mouse chase movie ..