Star Wars Universe Thread: May The 4th Be With You

[SlamShut]

Thank you sir. Sorry about the few that are sideways...they weren't that way when I posted them.

 

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[oddandtwisted]

wish I had my own geek room haha, awesome stuff. 

How many episodes of unfinished Clone Wars are out? Where is a list? They all on starwars.com?

 

[niketalker23]

wish I had my own geek room haha, awesome stuff. 

How many episodes of unfinished Clone Wars are out? Where is a list? They all on starwars.com?

Just the Utapau and Bad Batch arc

The Darth Maul comic series and the upcoming Asaajj book are also based off of unused episodes.

 

[oddandtwisted]

Just the Utapau and Bad Batch arc

The Darth Maul comic series and the upcoming Asaajj book are also based off of unused episodes.

found the two on the site, thanks! 

 

[niketalker23]

No problem.

 

[blackboyfly]

[Video][/Video]

And a quote from Adam Driver

The thing about Star Wars that’s so good—sure there’s this huge [canvas]. It’s space, it’s a long time ago in a galaxy far away. That’s set up immediately. But in the midst of all those things, what has made those movies last so long is that they’re all grounded, which is something that is not so far off from every movie with huge universal themes of siblings and parents and betrayal and trust. That’s so generic and obvious, but it’s hard to balance those things.

Wonder if they'll just come out and confirm it before the movie comes out

 

[big j 33]

So I watched Phantom Menace today.

Today was a bad day.

 

[celticspride34]

Honestly.. The only part of Episode 1's story I didn't like was Anakin blowing up the space station... I liked how they introduced him as a very Force sensitive and innocent boy... I thought the promo material if young Anakin with the Vader shadow was very well done...

The acting and the dialogue is a different story ...

 

[CP1708]

So I watched Phantom Menace today.

Today was a bad day.

Hit me with it. All of it, let me have it. Honest review.

 

[big j 33]

I've obviously seen it... just haven't thought about how awful it was for so long.

- Everything about Jar Jar

- How Qui and Obi conveniently have everything they need in hidden Jedi robe compartments.. Need to breathe underwater? We got that. DNA analyzer? No prob.

- I never really cared they started with a young boy as Anakin.. I'm sure having him be a teen/young adult would have been better, but if they wanted to show his first introduction, then it maybe makes sense. If they started off with him in training or something, maybe it's less of a big deal? I don't know. I never spent time thinking up how I'd want the prequels to be, just because I'm sure it'll end up depressing me. 

- But it's that they made him a cute little boy  with the worst dialogue ever. "YIPPEE!!!" and his dialogue was just so awful... everything with his mom, calling Padme an angel, everything.

- Him building C3PO? Why? Why? Why? And introducing him to R2... ugh. Too many on the nose moments that just weren't needed. 

- I appreciate the overall story of Palpatine slowly getting more and more control, that was legitimately interesting, but it's the first Star Wars movie for a new generation? And we're given disputes with the Trade Federation, the Gungans, and a little boy accidentally saving the day. Nah

- And I don't care about pod races.

- Apologies if there's some long history in the EU of this happening and it's actually not totally stupid, but Anakin doesn't have a father? Really? The Force knocked up his mom? Again, if there's some explanation I'm missing then whatever, but yeah... dumb.

- Some things I don't even blame Lucas for... too much CGI.. yeah that's obviously a problem. But at the time, with all the new tech available, I don't blame the guy entirely for thinking "Wow! This is so much easier, look at all the cool things I can do" He clearly lost sight of things. Same with the obvious humor and pandering to kids, we saw that even in VI with the ewoks... I get it.

All of that would be easier to swallow as minor problems if the movie was just better.. but it wasn't. I'd be more forgiving of some of the more diehard Star Wars fans complaints if the movie was just focused more on character development, on dialogue over special effects, and so on.

 

[noblekane]

Star wars episode 1: jingle all the way

Those episode vii spoilers make me mad [emoji]128545[/emoji]

Alot of the stuff isnt explained. seems like a rushed script. I am disappoint. Will have low expectations going into movie now.

 

[CP1708]

Good stuff J.

No EU, the no father thing was out of left field. I assume he was A, trying to avoid a loose end about said father, or B showing how "special" Anakin was supposed to be. Either way, dumb.

 

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[niketalker23]

JJ was actually Lucas's choice when he spoke to Kathleen about her taking over Star Wars.

Expectations are high because it's a perfect storm for JJ. He has everything at his disposal to make good movies.

Huge Budget.
George's outline.
An incredible amount of control of the saga.
Sets/models/motion capture/CGI
Fan input on what they liked and didn't like with the two trilogies.

 

[CP1708]

sure.

 

[CP1708]

George Lucas is not involved with the creation of Star Wars: The Force Awakens. When interviewed by Stephen Colbert about the forthcoming sequel, the now-retired filmmaker said "I'm excited, I have no idea what they're doing"—they being director J.J. Abrams and his team.

But according to Bruce Handy's new Vanity Fair cover story on the creation of Episode VII, Lucas at one point did have a vision for the story that the new Star Wars film would tell. By the time he sold Lucasfilm and related properties to Disney for more than $4 billion, he’d “sketched out ideas for episodes VII, VIII, and IX,” writes Handy, and had already approached Harrison Ford, Carrie Fischer, and Mark Hamill about being involved. Once the property was in Disney’s hands, though, the company and executive producer Kathleen Kennedy mostly scrapped Lucas's ideas. Why? Apparently, people involved may have been getting flashbacks to child actor Jake Matthew Lloyd’s performance in the first prequel:

[Abrams] said Lucas’s treatment had centered on very young characters—teenagers, Lucasfilm told me—which might have struck Disney executives as veering too close for comfort to The Phantom Menace and its 9-year-old Anakin Skywalker and 13-year-old Queen Amidala. “We’ve made some departures” from Lucas’s ideas, Kennedy conceded, but only in “exactly the way you would in any development process.”

Handy’s article drives home just how much the Force Awakens came out of the idea of getting to fill an entirely blank space with new Star Wars story. Luke, Han, and Leia are back and are 30 years older, but other than that, the filmmakers had to fabricate something completely fresh. The initially reluctant Abrams says this feeling of open-ended possibility is what brought him on board: “This idea of what’s happened in these past 30-something years. Where is Han Solo? What happened to Leia? Is Luke alive?”

The writing process apparently was somewhat tortured, with the Little Miss Sunshine screenwriter Michael Arndt making a first attempt but ultimately failing to pull together a script in time. As of early November 2013, the studio walls and whiteboards were filled with ideas, but the actual narrative hadn't been set in place. Abrams and the Empire Strikes Back/Return of the Jedi co-writer Lawrence Kasdan took over, starting from something very close to scratch. “We didn’t have anything,” Kasdan told Handy. “There were a thousand people waiting for answers on things, and you couldn’t tell them anything except, ‘Yeah, that guy’s in it.’ That was about it. That was really all we knew.” The two men then hashed out the story in conversations as they walked around Santa Monica, New York City, London, and Paris, and kept refining the script even as production began.

Abrams keeps talking about wanting to evoke the feel of the originals rather than the prequels—in the Vanity Fair story, he says he considered putting Jar Jar Binks's bones in the background of a Force Awakens scene. But perhaps an even bigger part of the reason for the fervent fan interest in every drib and drab of info about the Star Wars sequel is that its out-of-whole-cloth nature differs fundamentally from other big-budget franchise reboots. The Marvel universe is raiding published comic books for a years-long master narrative; other based-on-previous-films films, from Abrams’s take on Star Trek to recent updates of Robocop and Terminator, often retread familiar stories and feature old characters recast with newer actors. By contrast, Star Wars, for the most part, has the potential to be an all-new vision in a familiar setting. It probably can't blow minds as thoroughly as Lucas did in 1977, but at least fans don't have to worry about spotty child-acting derailing the story that defined their own childhoods.

There are no "George story outlines" in this film.

 

[niketalker23]

George Lucas is not involved with the creation of Star Wars: The Force Awakens. When interviewed by Stephen Colbert about the forthcoming sequel, the now-retired filmmaker said "I'm excited, I have no idea what they're doing"—they being director J.J. Abrams and his team.

But according to Bruce Handy's new Vanity Fair cover story on the creation of Episode VII, Lucas at one point did have a vision for the story that the new Star Wars film would tell. By the time he sold Lucasfilm and related properties to Disney for more than $4 billion, he’d “sketched out ideas for episodes VII, VIII, and IX,” writes Handy, and had already approached Harrison Ford, Carrie Fischer, and Mark Hamill about being involved. Once the property was in Disney’s hands, though, the company and executive producer Kathleen Kennedy mostly scrapped Lucas's ideas. Why? Apparently, people involved may have been getting flashbacks to child actor Jake Matthew Lloyd’s performance in the first prequel:

[Abrams] said Lucas’s treatment had centered on very young characters—teenagers, Lucasfilm told me—which might have struck Disney executives as veering too close for comfort to The Phantom Menace and its 9-year-old Anakin Skywalker and 13-year-old Queen Amidala. “We’ve made some departures” from Lucas’s ideas, Kennedy conceded, but only in “exactly the way you would in any development process.”

Handy’s article drives home just how much the Force Awakens came out of the idea of getting to fill an entirely blank space with new Star Wars story. Luke, Han, and Leia are back and are 30 years older, but other than that, the filmmakers had to fabricate something completely fresh. The initially reluctant Abrams says this feeling of open-ended possibility is what brought him on board: “This idea of what’s happened in these past 30-something years. Where is Han Solo? What happened to Leia? Is Luke alive?”

The writing process apparently was somewhat tortured, with the Little Miss Sunshine screenwriter Michael Arndt making a first attempt but ultimately failing to pull together a script in time. As of early November 2013, the studio walls and whiteboards were filled with ideas, but the actual narrative hadn't been set in place. Abrams and the Empire Strikes Back/Return of the Jedi co-writer Lawrence Kasdan took over, starting from something very close to scratch. “We didn’t have anything,” Kasdan told Handy. “There were a thousand people waiting for answers on things, and you couldn’t tell them anything except, ‘Yeah, that guy’s in it.’ That was about it. That was really all we knew.” The two men then hashed out the story in conversations as they walked around Santa Monica, New York City, London, and Paris, and kept refining the script even as production began.

Abrams keeps talking about wanting to evoke the feel of the originals rather than the prequels—in the Vanity Fair story, he says he considered putting Jar Jar Binks's bones in the background of a Force Awakens scene. But perhaps an even bigger part of the reason for the fervent fan interest in every drib and drab of info about the Star Wars sequel is that its out-of-whole-cloth nature differs fundamentally from other big-budget franchise reboots. The Marvel universe is raiding published comic books for a years-long master narrative; other based-on-previous-films films, from Abrams’s take on Star Trek to recent updates of Robocop and Terminator, often retread familiar stories and feature old characters recast with newer actors. By contrast, Star Wars, for the most part, has the potential to be an all-new vision in a familiar setting. It probably can't blow minds as thoroughly as Lucas did in 1977, but at least fans don't have to worry about spotty child-acting derailing the story that defined their own childhoods.

There are no "George story outlines" in this film.

The children were in their twenties..

This video was out weeks before the vanity fair article.

I like how that report you posted also has no quotes from anybody, not JJ, not KK, about his story being about "teens".

There is this quote

“We’ve made some departures” from Lucas’s ideas, Kennedy conceded, but only in “exactly the way you would in any development process.”

Keywords - "some", "but only in". That tells me that Lucas's ideas are still part of the story.

Stop acting so bitter CP.

 

[CP1708]

So.......when George says flat out, "they went another direction, I don't have any idea what they're doing........" That should be interpreted as they used his outlines?


I even like how he referenced the books.

George's story.


No one's bitter, just accept he's gone and can no longer harm the franchise. That's what we all want.

 

[bballermarkie]

Good stuff J.

No EU, the no father thing was out of left field. I assume he was A, trying to avoid a loose end about said father, or B showing how "special" Anakin was supposed to be. Either way, dumb.

Its explained in Darth Plagueis

 

[CP1708]

Good stuff J.

No EU, the no father thing was out of left field. I assume he was A, trying to avoid a loose end about said father, or B showing how "special" Anakin was supposed to be. Either way, dumb.

Its explained in Darth Plagueis

Yes, but the book for Plagueis came out after the movies. I think J was asking how/why that came to be at the time of the film itself.

 

[bballermarkie]

Good stuff J.

No EU, the no father thing was out of left field. I assume he was A, trying to avoid a loose end about said father, or B showing how "special" Anakin was supposed to be. Either way, dumb.

Its explained in Darth Plagueis

Yes, but the book for Plagueis came out after the movies. I think J was asking how/why that came to be at the time of the film itself.

I'll agree with that.

I do like him being force born after than tho

That Sidious indirectly created him

 

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[danger style]

So I watched Phantom Menace today.

Today was a bad day.

Might need to do a rewatch soon. After i finish catching up on Mad Men

 

[noblekane]

What was even the point of bringing the old heroes back man?

And lando for that matter?

Sorry but those spoilers still got me pissed