So I was Reading The Book Of Luke... Vol. Jesus Christ Is Amazing.

[|A-Man|]

What shall it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul

I'd have to assume souls mean or substitute it for losing your sense of self or principles or honor, etc. cuz the concept of it on it's own can be parted with.

 

[oakridegonee]

to each his own.

good post op

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i haven't picked up my bible in months :/

 

[oakridegonee]

to each his own.

good post op

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i haven't picked up my bible in months :/

 

[dame theory]

IRL FTW!

 

[dame theory]

IRL FTW!

 

[whyhellothere]

Originally Posted by Essential1

Originally Posted by whyhellothere

Feels so good to love jesus

Atheist please change your minds and believe in our lord and savior before it is too late for your souls.

Let's for a second say that God & Jesus do exist..

What is to say Atheists still do not make it to heaven.. There are plenty of Atheists who live far more moral lives than believers..

Their lack of belief based on the bible means they do not get to go to heaven even if they lead more moral lives of people in heaven?

Do not judge lest ye be judged...

And your premise of "atheist change your minds" basically degenerates the belief of Jesus into something as simple as choosing what to wear tomorrow..

I'm an Agnostic on the side of Atheism,,, Let's say I'm wrong.. When I go up to the Pearly Gates..If I'm not accepted for what I am then I don't want to be there..

No, you either love Jesus & party with me & my angel crew in heaven

or you suffer & will beg for forgiveness during the last days when it is to late for your souls and the evil dragon will tear your apart. the choice is yours. Please choose the side of the holy spirit.

 

[chrisphreezy]

I agree that we are all entitled to our own opinions. But I also think that we should respect each other's opinions and not make fun of it. You don't have to agree, and if you don't, cool. But making fun of something so meaningful to some people isn't cool.

 

[whyhellothere]

Originally Posted by Essential1

Originally Posted by whyhellothere

Feels so good to love jesus

Atheist please change your minds and believe in our lord and savior before it is too late for your souls.

Let's for a second say that God & Jesus do exist..

What is to say Atheists still do not make it to heaven.. There are plenty of Atheists who live far more moral lives than believers..

Their lack of belief based on the bible means they do not get to go to heaven even if they lead more moral lives of people in heaven?

Do not judge lest ye be judged...

And your premise of "atheist change your minds" basically degenerates the belief of Jesus into something as simple as choosing what to wear tomorrow..

I'm an Agnostic on the side of Atheism,,, Let's say I'm wrong.. When I go up to the Pearly Gates..If I'm not accepted for what I am then I don't want to be there..

No, you either love Jesus & party with me & my angel crew in heaven

or you suffer & will beg for forgiveness during the last days when it is to late for your souls and the evil dragon will tear your apart. the choice is yours. Please choose the side of the holy spirit.

 

[chrisphreezy]

I agree that we are all entitled to our own opinions. But I also think that we should respect each other's opinions and not make fun of it. You don't have to agree, and if you don't, cool. But making fun of something so meaningful to some people isn't cool.

 

[its that dude]

seeing new names already

watch them cry if we pick out horrible things from the bible

"NO NO NO!!! this thread is only about the good things that the bible teaches! We're ignoring all of the despicable teachings from the bible because it's very convenient to do so! Stop showing me things from the bible that I don't want to know about!"

 

[its that dude]

seeing new names already

watch them cry if we pick out horrible things from the bible

"NO NO NO!!! this thread is only about the good things that the bible teaches! We're ignoring all of the despicable teachings from the bible because it's very convenient to do so! Stop showing me things from the bible that I don't want to know about!"

 

[essential1]

Originally Posted by whyhellothere

Originally Posted by Essential1

Originally Posted by whyhellothere

Feels so good to love jesus

Atheist please change your minds and believe in our lord and savior before it is too late for your souls.

Let's for a second say that God & Jesus do exist..

What is to say Atheists still do not make it to heaven.. There are plenty of Atheists who live far more moral lives than believers..

Their lack of belief based on the bible means they do not get to go to heaven even if they lead more moral lives of people in heaven?

Do not judge lest ye be judged...

And your premise of "atheist change your minds" basically degenerates the belief of Jesus into something as simple as choosing what to wear tomorrow..

I'm an Agnostic on the side of Atheism,,, Let's say I'm wrong.. When I go up to the Pearly Gates..If I'm not accepted for what I am then I don't want to be there..

No, you either love Jesus & party with me & my angel crew in heaven

or you suffer. the choice is yours. Please choose the side of the holy spirit.

I'm sensing sarcasm...  But I'll assume it isn't...

I'll choose the side of living life on my own terms.. And helping people because I'm a good person not because someone is making me....

Also I hope you actually read the Bible all the way through because the simple belief in Jesus is not your ticket to Heaven.. There are thousands of precursors.. Things that you don't think need to be taken literally.. That were written to be taken literally.. Do you really think that the book written by God is metaphors? Do you think you only follow it the way you think he means?

I.e.  If you become rich = hell
      You work on the Sabbath = hell
      If you ever ate anything that has fat in it = hell
      Mixing materials of clothing = hell


Also let's not forget that Jesus Christ was JEWISH... So that by itself would make Christianity itself not the religion to pick to accept Jesus Christ..

I can agree that there are tremendous things written in the Bible, things every person should try to live by... BUT there are also despicable and inhumane things against the exact teachings of the Premise of Jesus itself..

Choosing to live a moral life yourself>>>>>>>>>>>> Choosing to live a moral life for your own personal gain (immortality in heaven)...

 

[essential1]

Originally Posted by whyhellothere

Originally Posted by Essential1

Originally Posted by whyhellothere

Feels so good to love jesus

Atheist please change your minds and believe in our lord and savior before it is too late for your souls.

Let's for a second say that God & Jesus do exist..

What is to say Atheists still do not make it to heaven.. There are plenty of Atheists who live far more moral lives than believers..

Their lack of belief based on the bible means they do not get to go to heaven even if they lead more moral lives of people in heaven?

Do not judge lest ye be judged...

And your premise of "atheist change your minds" basically degenerates the belief of Jesus into something as simple as choosing what to wear tomorrow..

I'm an Agnostic on the side of Atheism,,, Let's say I'm wrong.. When I go up to the Pearly Gates..If I'm not accepted for what I am then I don't want to be there..

No, you either love Jesus & party with me & my angel crew in heaven

or you suffer. the choice is yours. Please choose the side of the holy spirit.

I'm sensing sarcasm...  But I'll assume it isn't...

I'll choose the side of living life on my own terms.. And helping people because I'm a good person not because someone is making me....

Also I hope you actually read the Bible all the way through because the simple belief in Jesus is not your ticket to Heaven.. There are thousands of precursors.. Things that you don't think need to be taken literally.. That were written to be taken literally.. Do you really think that the book written by God is metaphors? Do you think you only follow it the way you think he means?

I.e.  If you become rich = hell
      You work on the Sabbath = hell
      If you ever ate anything that has fat in it = hell
      Mixing materials of clothing = hell


Also let's not forget that Jesus Christ was JEWISH... So that by itself would make Christianity itself not the religion to pick to accept Jesus Christ..

I can agree that there are tremendous things written in the Bible, things every person should try to live by... BUT there are also despicable and inhumane things against the exact teachings of the Premise of Jesus itself..

Choosing to live a moral life yourself>>>>>>>>>>>> Choosing to live a moral life for your own personal gain (immortality in heaven)...

 

[|A-Man|]

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Originally Posted by sevit86

Originally Posted by derp

I was in Church and my senior pastor was speaking.
I'm Korean but im not fluent in understanding/speaking so i just decided to open up the Bible.

I began reading the book of Luke and wow. It amazed me to read what Jesus said.

Book of Luke is mostly about Jesus going from town to town giving preaching and stuff.

Heres some quotes that I read + found from Jesus Christ that i loved.

PLEASE DO NOT MAKE THIS A BASHING CHRISTIANITY THREAD/SARCASTIC/PRIVATE FLAMES.

IM TIRED OF SEEING ARGUMENTS.

Feel free to add your own!

Ask, and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock, and the door will be opened to you

Yes I am with you always, until the very end of time.

In the world you will have trouble but take courage for I have conquered the world

Bless are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled.

You read a book written by men that was written thousands of years ago by people just as full of %^&* as people now. 
This book you are talking about wasn't even translated properly from todays scholars and many of the words are still being translated to this day.  And constant new "editions" are being made from their mistranslated words from companies who interpet their translations of old ones that are wrong to begin with. 

People back then thought the sun was 15 miles away and the earth was the center of the cosmos (they still thought the earth was flat as well).

The new testament was also written to compensate for the romans. 

The Bible tells you to repress your "natural" emotions and that giving birth is sacred but sex is disgusting and should be loathed.

Christians during the medieval period were told that bathing was a sin by the church because washing off dirt that was made by "god" was

considered sacrilegious ( even the elite of that time period bathed once six months, once a week was a luxury) 

The bible condones slavery and represses women. the people who wrote the bible thought the earth was 10,000 years old and that there was a alternate dimension you travel to after death depending on how u lead your life. 

You either go to a place of eternal bliss or your burn in fire for the rest of your life.

Many if not all of the religious staples mentioned in the bible are all taken from other religions including paganism, which christians thought to be invented by the devil 

Poseidon's Trident/ Lucifer's Pitchfork

Pentagon (represents the key elements in nature and used for other religous purposes/ considered a satanic symbol similar to how the nazis used the swastika

Jesus's entire life story was taken almost word for word by other religions at the time. (and they would eventually be persecuted by Christians as satan worshippers).

there are more if you want to look it up

5 Things You Won't Believe Aren't In the Bible

As a predominantly Christian people, Westerners think they know the Bible pretty well. But not everybody realizes that many of the most iconic features of Christianity were never mentioned by the holy book or the church, but were actually pulled from the @@* of some poet or artist years after God turned in his final draft of the Bible.

ANGELS - 

The image of an angel is so recognizable that you can immediately spot one if somebody makes its shape in some snow. They're sparkly people with two white wings and occasionally swords, who sit on clouds ripping out awesome harp solos while protecting humans from harm. So basically, the protagonists of the next Stephenie Meyer novel.

The sex scene will be as unsettling as it is improbable.

The Only Problem Is ...

Now, there are angels in the Bible. But if you encountered some of the angels it describes, you'd probably need a shotgun under your bed to sleep soundly for the rest of your life.*

*NOTE: that is a joke. If angels turn out to be real, and you encounter one, do not shoot it with a shotgun.

There are several kinds of angels in the Bible and you've probably heard about some of them, like archangels, cherubim and seraphim. They all look different, and very few actually have wings. Those who do, like the seraphim, actually have six wings and need all of them to cover their body, lest they blind/incinerate whoever is unlucky enough to bump into one.

This is a seraph, trying with all its might not to burn you alive.

Then there are the thrones, which are described in the Bible as "wheels within wheels," the rims of which are covered in eyes.

Whatever it is, we're pretty sure it can see.

Then we have the cutest order of angels, the cherubim. As we all know, a cherub is a baby angel, usually with a little bow and arrow and a leaf protecting his modesty. Except that Ezekiel 10:14 describes them as frightening four-headed monstrosities that included the faces of a man, an eagle and a lion.

Actually Came From:

Painters took liberties when portraying angels, and just like putting capes on superheroes, giving them wings was a visually interesting way to identify who was the angel in a painting full of regular dudes (wings were also used in the early church to denote that these creatures lived in the sky). Archangels like Michael and Gabriel were given contemporary military garb.

Which apparently included "hair like a lady."

Cherubs in particular didn't get their extreme makeover until Renaissance sculptors revived the ancient practice of putti, which depicted cute babies dancing and playing around on infant tombs. The rediscovery and reimplementation of these little cuties brought Cupid-esque cherubs into vogue, as demonstrated by Tomba di Ilaria del Carretto:

Whaddya know? Those dancing naked babies do make this tomb less unsettling.

Lastly, the thing about the harps was actually invented by John Milton who wrote about angels "plucking harps" in Paradise Lost, basically just because it was the cutest thing he could pull out of his @@*.

The Devil Is Red and Has Horns, a Pitchfork and Goat Legs


The devil, also known as Satan, Beelzebub, Lucifer, the Prince of Darkness, Mr. Scratch, Old Nick and Al Pacino, is the cloven-hoofed, pitchfork-wielding, red-skinned, horned king of hell and founder of the metal genre of music. He's also a gambler and a businessman, willing to make bets or contracts with you and grant you wishes/musical abilities in exchange for your immortal soul. He looks like this:

The Only Problem Is ...

Not one inch of that is in the Bible. Anywhere. Not even the goatee (and this is a book where every other character has a goatee. Or at least we picture it that way).

So what does Satan look like in the Bible? We don't know -- he's never physically described except when he visits Eve as a snake, and some think that the snake in the Garden of Eden wasn't actually Satan anyway. Other than that, he's just a disembodied ghost-voice, kind of like a really evil Obi-Wan Kenobi.

"You should totally try crystal meth."

Actually Came From:

Medieval artists who wanted to portray the devil visually had to take a bit of artistic license, generally drawing whatever seemed evil at the time. No single source is responsible for the common depiction of Old Nick, but he picked up bits and pieces of his traditional costume as time went on, like a hipster trawling dozens of op shops over the course of a month.

Speaking of hipsters, what about that pitchfork? It's really a trident, a popular accessory of the Greek and Roman gods. The horns? Possibly a hand-me-down from animal-worshipping religions that Christianity didn't like. Scholars believe that Satan got his goat-legs as recently as the 19th century during the Romantic period, when neo-paganism came into vogue and a lot of writers, poets and artists started talking up the Greek goat-god Pan as a source of their inspiration, a claim about which numerous panties became quite tightly knotted.

Imagine this guy with a pitchfork.

As for the devil's famous habit of gambling with people's souls, that's not canonical either. Though his job is to tempt people to sin, he never grants anybody miraculous powers. We have an old German legend to thank for that. The legend of Faust, made popular later when it was dramatized by Christopher Marlowe, tells the story of a doctor who gets bored and decides to strike a deal with Lucifer in return for knowledge, converting the devil from the Prince of Darkness into a shady snake-oil salesman.

Alas, the devil got more emo with time.




The Holy Grail






The cup that Jesus drank out of during the Last Supper is the ultimate lost treasure, having become a slang term for anything long sought-after or world-changing. And while the Indiana Jones franchise seems to think drinking from the legendary cup will grant you eternal life and heal gunshot wounds, the exact kind of magic powers we can expect to obtain when we find it is a matter of dispute.

Also, there's the question of whether it's a cup, a bowl or, as Dan Brown speculated, a holy vagina.

We'd tap that.

The Only Problem Is ...

If you try to find the story of the magical cup in the Bible, you'll wind up flipping around confused, thinking you've got an abridged version or something. While the Bible does mention Jesus using a cup during the Last Supper, the cup itself is not treated any more importantly than anything else in the scene. It'd make just as much sense to say the table itself is holy, or the chairs, or the menu, or the leftovers, or the tip.

"I only see 11 dollars. Someone's holding out ... Judas, I'm looking in your direction ..."

Actually Came From:

The Holy Grail was first invoked just as a plot-driving device in the legend of King Arthur. Even then, the item that Arthur's army sought was not Jesus' cup at all -- it was a magic cauldron. Since cauldrons were used quite often at parties and Celtic sleepovers, having a magic cauldron would come off today like a plate of nachos that never ended or a bottomless beer keg.

If only this moment could be eternal...

It was the French poet Chretien de Troyes who reinterpreted the Arthurian legend as a quest for the Holy Grail. And even then, the Grail was not a cup, but rather something resembling a really nice serving dish.

No, it was another poet, Robert de Boron, who planted the Jesus-cup story in the world's consciousness. According to his (quite fictional) masterwork Joseph d'Arimathe, the cup was used by Joseph of Arimathea to collect Jesus' blood and sweat after his crucifixion.

Just look at the man's dorag -- you know he was into some freaky *#%%.

It was his possession of the Grail that granted him the Jesus-powers to survive his own death and burial, and then for some reason he delivered it to Britain. This provided not only the first description of the Grail as Jesus' cup, but also an explanation as to why the hell we're looking for a piece of Israeli tableware in goddamn England.

Yep. Definitely a vagina.


The Anti-Christ
Type "Is Obama" into Google and one of the top three suggested searches will always be "the Antichrist?" If the Web had existed in Ronald Reagan's day, you'd have gotten the same result for him and (likewise for Mikhail Gorbachev).

Hot Antichrist-on-Antichrist action.

So clearly there is a huge chunk of the world waiting for someone to come along and fulfill the old biblical prophecy: A charismatic leader will fool the whole world, rise to power, institute a worldwide dictatorial regime and (finally) bring about the Apocalypse. There exist entire religious sects who keep a sharp eye out for the smooth talking sign of the End Times who will trigger the destruction of everything we know and love.

You skeptics can laugh, but know that many Americans who vote in 2012 will be doing it based on which of the two candidates is least likely to be the Antichrist.

This man is not basing his vote on sound fiscal policy.

The Only Problem Is ...

The Antichrist is mentioned only four times in the Bible, and each time he's described the same way:

"Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the Antichrist." (2 John 1:7)

Yep: The Antichrist is anyone who doesn't believe in Christ. The "anti" is basically being used the same way it's used when we say someone is "anti-war." So anyone who wants to accuse Richard Dawkins of being the Antichrist is actually entirely correct, and what's more, he'll agree with you.

Man, antichrists get all the fine #*#+*#$.

Actually Came From:

There are characters in the Book of Revelation who will help usher in the End of Days: for instance, there is a False Prophet, who looks like a lamb and talks like a dragon (figuratively, we're assuming). And then we have "The Beast" from Revelation 13, which is described as "coming out of the sea" with 10 horns, seven heads, 10 crowns and other body parts that do not even resemble a human body accidentally.

The Beast we're talking about is the beast on the right.

The beast is who is associated with the number 666, by the way. It wasn't until the second century that some dude named Saint Irenaeus started calling it the Antichrist, borrowing the term from another part of the Bible that wasn't referring to it. But even that did very little to change the fact that The Beast would have a hell of a time getting elected to public office since it looked like ... well, a $+#$#!!!%$%!$ beast.

If Napoleon Dynamite wrote a fan-version of Narnia.

It wasn't until the Middle Ages that the Antichrist was portrayed as a guy rather than a huge multiheaded monster. Thus the Antichrist, as a figure in pop culture and cheap-shot accusation was born. Countless novels (like the worldwide bestselling Left Behind series) and movies have helped push the concept to where it is today.

So to summarize, millions are awaiting what they believe is the fulfillment of an ancient biblical prophecy that is in reality cobbled together from at least three different characters from the Bible, with a little bit of Rosemary's Baby for good measure.

Hell: Anything other then the Fire


Hell is a place of eternal torment, a realm of unrelenting suffering for all sinners, heretics and unbelievers. It is a land of fire and brimstone arranged into nine circles and filled with imps and demons who deal out cruelly ironic punishments for all of eternity. Ruling over all of it is Satan, who probably sits on a throne made of skulls or something.

We'd be more impressed by an armchair of femurs.

The Only Problem Is ...

Of all that, the only part you'll find in the Bible is the fact that Hell sucks and that there is fire (from passages like Matthew 13:42: "And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.")

And ... that's as specific as it gets.

Actually Came From:

As usual, artists and writers took those vague descriptions and ran with them. The understanding of hell as a fiery subterranean cavern full of lava and demons shoving flutes up your @@* for eternity owes its popularity largely to the medieval double-team of Dante and Hieronymus Bosch.

Dante's Inferno popularized the idea of hell as a nine-level first-person-shooter. He pioneered the concept of contrapasso, the idea that prisoners of hell are subject to ironic tortures related to the sins that brought them there. Like the "flatterers," who spent their lives $!%*+%*++%$%, and were forced in hell to "wallow in *#%%" for eternity.

Then the Dutch artist, Bosch, came along and painted it.

Image #558 in our "pictures to stare at while on acid" series.

As for Satan being the ruler of hell, that's a misconception we can probably blame on John Milton. In Paradise Lost, Satan famously $%@*%$!: "Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven." But there's a reason why God cast Satan and his minions into hell instead of Wisconsin: Hell sucks for everyone including imps and demons. According to 2 Peter 2:4: "God did not spare the angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into chains of darkness to be held for judgment."

That's right, chains and prisons ... for them. No iron fortresses, no fiery thrones, no mention of Satan ruling the cell block ... all of that is from the Bible's extended universe and fan fiction.

"And then, Boba Fett and Jesus Christ flew off on their divine jetpacks to fight the Nazis."






Wow. I mean damn, most of this list is very informative.

I am the antichrist but I'll make sure to look out for a 6 headed charismatic beast running for president.

Originally Posted by derp

like......?

The bible says if I rape a woman all I have to do is pay her father 50 shillings ($12 US) and marry her. Having slaves is fine too.

 

[|A-Man|]

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Originally Posted by sevit86

Originally Posted by derp

I was in Church and my senior pastor was speaking.
I'm Korean but im not fluent in understanding/speaking so i just decided to open up the Bible.

I began reading the book of Luke and wow. It amazed me to read what Jesus said.

Book of Luke is mostly about Jesus going from town to town giving preaching and stuff.

Heres some quotes that I read + found from Jesus Christ that i loved.

PLEASE DO NOT MAKE THIS A BASHING CHRISTIANITY THREAD/SARCASTIC/PRIVATE FLAMES.

IM TIRED OF SEEING ARGUMENTS.

Feel free to add your own!

Ask, and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock, and the door will be opened to you

Yes I am with you always, until the very end of time.

In the world you will have trouble but take courage for I have conquered the world

Bless are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled.

You read a book written by men that was written thousands of years ago by people just as full of %^&* as people now. 
This book you are talking about wasn't even translated properly from todays scholars and many of the words are still being translated to this day.  And constant new "editions" are being made from their mistranslated words from companies who interpet their translations of old ones that are wrong to begin with. 

People back then thought the sun was 15 miles away and the earth was the center of the cosmos (they still thought the earth was flat as well).

The new testament was also written to compensate for the romans. 

The Bible tells you to repress your "natural" emotions and that giving birth is sacred but sex is disgusting and should be loathed.

Christians during the medieval period were told that bathing was a sin by the church because washing off dirt that was made by "god" was

considered sacrilegious ( even the elite of that time period bathed once six months, once a week was a luxury) 

The bible condones slavery and represses women. the people who wrote the bible thought the earth was 10,000 years old and that there was a alternate dimension you travel to after death depending on how u lead your life. 

You either go to a place of eternal bliss or your burn in fire for the rest of your life.

Many if not all of the religious staples mentioned in the bible are all taken from other religions including paganism, which christians thought to be invented by the devil 

Poseidon's Trident/ Lucifer's Pitchfork

Pentagon (represents the key elements in nature and used for other religous purposes/ considered a satanic symbol similar to how the nazis used the swastika

Jesus's entire life story was taken almost word for word by other religions at the time. (and they would eventually be persecuted by Christians as satan worshippers).

there are more if you want to look it up

5 Things You Won't Believe Aren't In the Bible

As a predominantly Christian people, Westerners think they know the Bible pretty well. But not everybody realizes that many of the most iconic features of Christianity were never mentioned by the holy book or the church, but were actually pulled from the @@* of some poet or artist years after God turned in his final draft of the Bible.

ANGELS - 

The image of an angel is so recognizable that you can immediately spot one if somebody makes its shape in some snow. They're sparkly people with two white wings and occasionally swords, who sit on clouds ripping out awesome harp solos while protecting humans from harm. So basically, the protagonists of the next Stephenie Meyer novel.

The sex scene will be as unsettling as it is improbable.

The Only Problem Is ...

Now, there are angels in the Bible. But if you encountered some of the angels it describes, you'd probably need a shotgun under your bed to sleep soundly for the rest of your life.*

*NOTE: that is a joke. If angels turn out to be real, and you encounter one, do not shoot it with a shotgun.

There are several kinds of angels in the Bible and you've probably heard about some of them, like archangels, cherubim and seraphim. They all look different, and very few actually have wings. Those who do, like the seraphim, actually have six wings and need all of them to cover their body, lest they blind/incinerate whoever is unlucky enough to bump into one.

This is a seraph, trying with all its might not to burn you alive.

Then there are the thrones, which are described in the Bible as "wheels within wheels," the rims of which are covered in eyes.

Whatever it is, we're pretty sure it can see.

Then we have the cutest order of angels, the cherubim. As we all know, a cherub is a baby angel, usually with a little bow and arrow and a leaf protecting his modesty. Except that Ezekiel 10:14 describes them as frightening four-headed monstrosities that included the faces of a man, an eagle and a lion.

Actually Came From:

Painters took liberties when portraying angels, and just like putting capes on superheroes, giving them wings was a visually interesting way to identify who was the angel in a painting full of regular dudes (wings were also used in the early church to denote that these creatures lived in the sky). Archangels like Michael and Gabriel were given contemporary military garb.

Which apparently included "hair like a lady."

Cherubs in particular didn't get their extreme makeover until Renaissance sculptors revived the ancient practice of putti, which depicted cute babies dancing and playing around on infant tombs. The rediscovery and reimplementation of these little cuties brought Cupid-esque cherubs into vogue, as demonstrated by Tomba di Ilaria del Carretto:

Whaddya know? Those dancing naked babies do make this tomb less unsettling.

Lastly, the thing about the harps was actually invented by John Milton who wrote about angels "plucking harps" in Paradise Lost, basically just because it was the cutest thing he could pull out of his @@*.

The Devil Is Red and Has Horns, a Pitchfork and Goat Legs


The devil, also known as Satan, Beelzebub, Lucifer, the Prince of Darkness, Mr. Scratch, Old Nick and Al Pacino, is the cloven-hoofed, pitchfork-wielding, red-skinned, horned king of hell and founder of the metal genre of music. He's also a gambler and a businessman, willing to make bets or contracts with you and grant you wishes/musical abilities in exchange for your immortal soul. He looks like this:

The Only Problem Is ...

Not one inch of that is in the Bible. Anywhere. Not even the goatee (and this is a book where every other character has a goatee. Or at least we picture it that way).

So what does Satan look like in the Bible? We don't know -- he's never physically described except when he visits Eve as a snake, and some think that the snake in the Garden of Eden wasn't actually Satan anyway. Other than that, he's just a disembodied ghost-voice, kind of like a really evil Obi-Wan Kenobi.

"You should totally try crystal meth."

Actually Came From:

Medieval artists who wanted to portray the devil visually had to take a bit of artistic license, generally drawing whatever seemed evil at the time. No single source is responsible for the common depiction of Old Nick, but he picked up bits and pieces of his traditional costume as time went on, like a hipster trawling dozens of op shops over the course of a month.

Speaking of hipsters, what about that pitchfork? It's really a trident, a popular accessory of the Greek and Roman gods. The horns? Possibly a hand-me-down from animal-worshipping religions that Christianity didn't like. Scholars believe that Satan got his goat-legs as recently as the 19th century during the Romantic period, when neo-paganism came into vogue and a lot of writers, poets and artists started talking up the Greek goat-god Pan as a source of their inspiration, a claim about which numerous panties became quite tightly knotted.

Imagine this guy with a pitchfork.

As for the devil's famous habit of gambling with people's souls, that's not canonical either. Though his job is to tempt people to sin, he never grants anybody miraculous powers. We have an old German legend to thank for that. The legend of Faust, made popular later when it was dramatized by Christopher Marlowe, tells the story of a doctor who gets bored and decides to strike a deal with Lucifer in return for knowledge, converting the devil from the Prince of Darkness into a shady snake-oil salesman.

Alas, the devil got more emo with time.




The Holy Grail






The cup that Jesus drank out of during the Last Supper is the ultimate lost treasure, having become a slang term for anything long sought-after or world-changing. And while the Indiana Jones franchise seems to think drinking from the legendary cup will grant you eternal life and heal gunshot wounds, the exact kind of magic powers we can expect to obtain when we find it is a matter of dispute.

Also, there's the question of whether it's a cup, a bowl or, as Dan Brown speculated, a holy vagina.

We'd tap that.

The Only Problem Is ...

If you try to find the story of the magical cup in the Bible, you'll wind up flipping around confused, thinking you've got an abridged version or something. While the Bible does mention Jesus using a cup during the Last Supper, the cup itself is not treated any more importantly than anything else in the scene. It'd make just as much sense to say the table itself is holy, or the chairs, or the menu, or the leftovers, or the tip.

"I only see 11 dollars. Someone's holding out ... Judas, I'm looking in your direction ..."

Actually Came From:

The Holy Grail was first invoked just as a plot-driving device in the legend of King Arthur. Even then, the item that Arthur's army sought was not Jesus' cup at all -- it was a magic cauldron. Since cauldrons were used quite often at parties and Celtic sleepovers, having a magic cauldron would come off today like a plate of nachos that never ended or a bottomless beer keg.

If only this moment could be eternal...

It was the French poet Chretien de Troyes who reinterpreted the Arthurian legend as a quest for the Holy Grail. And even then, the Grail was not a cup, but rather something resembling a really nice serving dish.

No, it was another poet, Robert de Boron, who planted the Jesus-cup story in the world's consciousness. According to his (quite fictional) masterwork Joseph d'Arimathe, the cup was used by Joseph of Arimathea to collect Jesus' blood and sweat after his crucifixion.

Just look at the man's dorag -- you know he was into some freaky *#%%.

It was his possession of the Grail that granted him the Jesus-powers to survive his own death and burial, and then for some reason he delivered it to Britain. This provided not only the first description of the Grail as Jesus' cup, but also an explanation as to why the hell we're looking for a piece of Israeli tableware in goddamn England.

Yep. Definitely a vagina.


The Anti-Christ
Type "Is Obama" into Google and one of the top three suggested searches will always be "the Antichrist?" If the Web had existed in Ronald Reagan's day, you'd have gotten the same result for him and (likewise for Mikhail Gorbachev).

Hot Antichrist-on-Antichrist action.

So clearly there is a huge chunk of the world waiting for someone to come along and fulfill the old biblical prophecy: A charismatic leader will fool the whole world, rise to power, institute a worldwide dictatorial regime and (finally) bring about the Apocalypse. There exist entire religious sects who keep a sharp eye out for the smooth talking sign of the End Times who will trigger the destruction of everything we know and love.

You skeptics can laugh, but know that many Americans who vote in 2012 will be doing it based on which of the two candidates is least likely to be the Antichrist.

This man is not basing his vote on sound fiscal policy.

The Only Problem Is ...

The Antichrist is mentioned only four times in the Bible, and each time he's described the same way:

"Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the Antichrist." (2 John 1:7)

Yep: The Antichrist is anyone who doesn't believe in Christ. The "anti" is basically being used the same way it's used when we say someone is "anti-war." So anyone who wants to accuse Richard Dawkins of being the Antichrist is actually entirely correct, and what's more, he'll agree with you.

Man, antichrists get all the fine #*#+*#$.

Actually Came From:

There are characters in the Book of Revelation who will help usher in the End of Days: for instance, there is a False Prophet, who looks like a lamb and talks like a dragon (figuratively, we're assuming). And then we have "The Beast" from Revelation 13, which is described as "coming out of the sea" with 10 horns, seven heads, 10 crowns and other body parts that do not even resemble a human body accidentally.

The Beast we're talking about is the beast on the right.

The beast is who is associated with the number 666, by the way. It wasn't until the second century that some dude named Saint Irenaeus started calling it the Antichrist, borrowing the term from another part of the Bible that wasn't referring to it. But even that did very little to change the fact that The Beast would have a hell of a time getting elected to public office since it looked like ... well, a $+#$#!!!%$%!$ beast.

If Napoleon Dynamite wrote a fan-version of Narnia.

It wasn't until the Middle Ages that the Antichrist was portrayed as a guy rather than a huge multiheaded monster. Thus the Antichrist, as a figure in pop culture and cheap-shot accusation was born. Countless novels (like the worldwide bestselling Left Behind series) and movies have helped push the concept to where it is today.

So to summarize, millions are awaiting what they believe is the fulfillment of an ancient biblical prophecy that is in reality cobbled together from at least three different characters from the Bible, with a little bit of Rosemary's Baby for good measure.

Hell: Anything other then the Fire


Hell is a place of eternal torment, a realm of unrelenting suffering for all sinners, heretics and unbelievers. It is a land of fire and brimstone arranged into nine circles and filled with imps and demons who deal out cruelly ironic punishments for all of eternity. Ruling over all of it is Satan, who probably sits on a throne made of skulls or something.

We'd be more impressed by an armchair of femurs.

The Only Problem Is ...

Of all that, the only part you'll find in the Bible is the fact that Hell sucks and that there is fire (from passages like Matthew 13:42: "And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.")

And ... that's as specific as it gets.

Actually Came From:

As usual, artists and writers took those vague descriptions and ran with them. The understanding of hell as a fiery subterranean cavern full of lava and demons shoving flutes up your @@* for eternity owes its popularity largely to the medieval double-team of Dante and Hieronymus Bosch.

Dante's Inferno popularized the idea of hell as a nine-level first-person-shooter. He pioneered the concept of contrapasso, the idea that prisoners of hell are subject to ironic tortures related to the sins that brought them there. Like the "flatterers," who spent their lives $!%*+%*++%$%, and were forced in hell to "wallow in *#%%" for eternity.

Then the Dutch artist, Bosch, came along and painted it.

Image #558 in our "pictures to stare at while on acid" series.

As for Satan being the ruler of hell, that's a misconception we can probably blame on John Milton. In Paradise Lost, Satan famously $%@*%$!: "Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven." But there's a reason why God cast Satan and his minions into hell instead of Wisconsin: Hell sucks for everyone including imps and demons. According to 2 Peter 2:4: "God did not spare the angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into chains of darkness to be held for judgment."

That's right, chains and prisons ... for them. No iron fortresses, no fiery thrones, no mention of Satan ruling the cell block ... all of that is from the Bible's extended universe and fan fiction.

"And then, Boba Fett and Jesus Christ flew off on their divine jetpacks to fight the Nazis."






Wow. I mean damn, most of this list is very informative.

I am the antichrist but I'll make sure to look out for a 6 headed charismatic beast running for president.

Originally Posted by derp

like......?

The bible says if I rape a woman all I have to do is pay her father 50 shillings ($12 US) and marry her. Having slaves is fine too.

 

[sevit86]

reposting because NT always seems to skip over my posts 

i just want to know what those who consider themselves Christian think of

those who don't follow their religion.

derp wrote:

---

I was in Church and my senior pastor was speaking.
I'm Korean but im not fluent in understanding/speaking so i just decided to open up the Bible.

I began reading the book of Luke and wow. It amazed me to read what Jesus said.

Book of Luke is mostly about Jesus going from town to town giving preaching and stuff.

Heres some quotes that I read + found from Jesus Christ that i loved.

PLEASE DO NOT MAKE THIS A BASHING CHRISTIANITY THREAD/SARCASTIC/PRIVATE FLAMES.

IM TIRED OF SEEING ARGUMENTS.

Feel free to add your own!

Ask, and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock, and the door will be opened to you

What shall it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul

Your faith has saved you; go in peace

Yes I am with you always, until the very end of time.

In the world you will have trouble but take courage for I have conquered the world

Bless are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled.

You read a book written by men that was written thousands of years ago by people just as full of %^&* as people now. 
This book you are talking about wasn't even translated properly from todays scholars and many of the words are still being translated to this day.  And constant new "editions" are being made from their mistranslated words from companies who interpet their translations of old ones that are wrong to begin with. 

People back then thought the sun was 15 miles away and the earth was the center of the cosmos (they still thought the earth was flat as well).

The new testament was also written to compensate for the romans. 

The Bible tells you to repress your "natural" emotions and that giving birth is sacred but sex is disgusting and should be loathed.

Christians during the medieval period were told that bathing was a sin by the church because washing off dirt that was made by "god" was

considered sacrilegious ( even the elite of that time period bathed once six months, once a week was a luxury) 

The bible condones slavery and represses women. the people who wrote the bible thought the earth was 10,000 years old and that there was a alternate dimension you travel to after death depending on how u lead your life. 

You either go to a place of eternal bliss or your burn in fire for the rest of your life.

Many if not all of the religious staples mentioned in the bible are all taken from other religions including paganism, which christians thought to be invented by the devil 

Poseidon's Trident/ Lucifer's Pitchfork

Pentagon (represents the key elements in nature and used for other religous purposes/ considered a satanic symbol similar to how the nazis used the swastika

Jesus's entire life story was taken almost word for word by other religions at the time. (and they would eventually be persecuted by Christians as satan worshippers).

there are more if you want to look it up

 

[sevit86]

reposting because NT always seems to skip over my posts 

i just want to know what those who consider themselves Christian think of

those who don't follow their religion.

derp wrote:

---

I was in Church and my senior pastor was speaking.
I'm Korean but im not fluent in understanding/speaking so i just decided to open up the Bible.

I began reading the book of Luke and wow. It amazed me to read what Jesus said.

Book of Luke is mostly about Jesus going from town to town giving preaching and stuff.

Heres some quotes that I read + found from Jesus Christ that i loved.

PLEASE DO NOT MAKE THIS A BASHING CHRISTIANITY THREAD/SARCASTIC/PRIVATE FLAMES.

IM TIRED OF SEEING ARGUMENTS.

Feel free to add your own!

Ask, and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock, and the door will be opened to you

What shall it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul

Your faith has saved you; go in peace

Yes I am with you always, until the very end of time.

In the world you will have trouble but take courage for I have conquered the world

Bless are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled.

You read a book written by men that was written thousands of years ago by people just as full of %^&* as people now. 
This book you are talking about wasn't even translated properly from todays scholars and many of the words are still being translated to this day.  And constant new "editions" are being made from their mistranslated words from companies who interpet their translations of old ones that are wrong to begin with. 

People back then thought the sun was 15 miles away and the earth was the center of the cosmos (they still thought the earth was flat as well).

The new testament was also written to compensate for the romans. 

The Bible tells you to repress your "natural" emotions and that giving birth is sacred but sex is disgusting and should be loathed.

Christians during the medieval period were told that bathing was a sin by the church because washing off dirt that was made by "god" was

considered sacrilegious ( even the elite of that time period bathed once six months, once a week was a luxury) 

The bible condones slavery and represses women. the people who wrote the bible thought the earth was 10,000 years old and that there was a alternate dimension you travel to after death depending on how u lead your life. 

You either go to a place of eternal bliss or your burn in fire for the rest of your life.

Many if not all of the religious staples mentioned in the bible are all taken from other religions including paganism, which christians thought to be invented by the devil 

Poseidon's Trident/ Lucifer's Pitchfork

Pentagon (represents the key elements in nature and used for other religous purposes/ considered a satanic symbol similar to how the nazis used the swastika

Jesus's entire life story was taken almost word for word by other religions at the time. (and they would eventually be persecuted by Christians as satan worshippers).

there are more if you want to look it up

 

[patsilog55]

Originally Posted by sevit86

reposting because NT always seems to skip over my posts 

i just want to know what those who consider themselves Christian think of

those who don't follow their religion.

derp wrote:

---

I was in Church and my senior pastor was speaking.
I'm Korean but im not fluent in understanding/speaking so i just decided to open up the Bible.

I began reading the book of Luke and wow. It amazed me to read what Jesus said.

Book of Luke is mostly about Jesus going from town to town giving preaching and stuff.

Heres some quotes that I read + found from Jesus Christ that i loved.

PLEASE DO NOT MAKE THIS A BASHING CHRISTIANITY THREAD/SARCASTIC/PRIVATE FLAMES.

IM TIRED OF SEEING ARGUMENTS.

Feel free to add your own!

Ask, and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock, and the door will be opened to you

What shall it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul

Your faith has saved you; go in peace

Yes I am with you always, until the very end of time.

In the world you will have trouble but take courage for I have conquered the world

Bless are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled.

You read a book written by men that was written thousands of years ago by people just as full of %^&* as people now. 
This book you are talking about wasn't even translated properly from todays scholars and many of the words are still being translated to this day.  And constant new "editions" are being made from their mistranslated words from companies who interpet their translations of old ones that are wrong to begin with. 

People back then thought the sun was 15 miles away and the earth was the center of the cosmos (they still thought the earth was flat as well).

The new testament was also written to compensate for the romans. 

The Bible tells you to repress your "natural" emotions and that giving birth is sacred but sex is disgusting and should be loathed.

Christians during the medieval period were told that bathing was a sin by the church because washing off dirt that was made by "god" was

considered sacrilegious ( even the elite of that time period bathed once six months, once a week was a luxury) 

The bible condones slavery and represses women. the people who wrote the bible thought the earth was 10,000 years old and that there was a alternate dimension you travel to after death depending on how u lead your life. 

You either go to a place of eternal bliss or your burn in fire for the rest of your life.

Many if not all of the religious staples mentioned in the bible are all taken from other religions including paganism, which christians thought to be invented by the devil 

Poseidon's Trident/ Lucifer's Pitchfork

Pentagon (represents the key elements in nature and used for other religous purposes/ considered a satanic symbol similar to how the nazis used the swastika

Jesus's entire life story was taken almost word for word by other religions at the time. (and they would eventually be persecuted by Christians as satan worshippers).

there are more if you want to look it up


damn you have all the answers

 

[patsilog55]

Originally Posted by sevit86

reposting because NT always seems to skip over my posts 

i just want to know what those who consider themselves Christian think of

those who don't follow their religion.

derp wrote:

---

I was in Church and my senior pastor was speaking.
I'm Korean but im not fluent in understanding/speaking so i just decided to open up the Bible.

I began reading the book of Luke and wow. It amazed me to read what Jesus said.

Book of Luke is mostly about Jesus going from town to town giving preaching and stuff.

Heres some quotes that I read + found from Jesus Christ that i loved.

PLEASE DO NOT MAKE THIS A BASHING CHRISTIANITY THREAD/SARCASTIC/PRIVATE FLAMES.

IM TIRED OF SEEING ARGUMENTS.

Feel free to add your own!

Ask, and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock, and the door will be opened to you

What shall it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul

Your faith has saved you; go in peace

Yes I am with you always, until the very end of time.

In the world you will have trouble but take courage for I have conquered the world

Bless are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled.

You read a book written by men that was written thousands of years ago by people just as full of %^&* as people now. 
This book you are talking about wasn't even translated properly from todays scholars and many of the words are still being translated to this day.  And constant new "editions" are being made from their mistranslated words from companies who interpet their translations of old ones that are wrong to begin with. 

People back then thought the sun was 15 miles away and the earth was the center of the cosmos (they still thought the earth was flat as well).

The new testament was also written to compensate for the romans. 

The Bible tells you to repress your "natural" emotions and that giving birth is sacred but sex is disgusting and should be loathed.

Christians during the medieval period were told that bathing was a sin by the church because washing off dirt that was made by "god" was

considered sacrilegious ( even the elite of that time period bathed once six months, once a week was a luxury) 

The bible condones slavery and represses women. the people who wrote the bible thought the earth was 10,000 years old and that there was a alternate dimension you travel to after death depending on how u lead your life. 

You either go to a place of eternal bliss or your burn in fire for the rest of your life.

Many if not all of the religious staples mentioned in the bible are all taken from other religions including paganism, which christians thought to be invented by the devil 

Poseidon's Trident/ Lucifer's Pitchfork

Pentagon (represents the key elements in nature and used for other religous purposes/ considered a satanic symbol similar to how the nazis used the swastika

Jesus's entire life story was taken almost word for word by other religions at the time. (and they would eventually be persecuted by Christians as satan worshippers).

there are more if you want to look it up


damn you have all the answers

 

[james earl zones]

sevit86

amazing post sir.

 

[james earl zones]

sevit86

amazing post sir.

 

[|A-Man|]

Originally Posted by derp

Wait, im confused.
Do you believe in God and choose NOT to follow God's rules.

Or do you just not believe in God at all.

There's also the deist option that he believes in GOD but doesn't believe that there are rules from GOD or that we don't even know what they are. That GOD has never involved himself in human affairs outside of inception.

 

[|A-Man|]

Originally Posted by derp

Wait, im confused.
Do you believe in God and choose NOT to follow God's rules.

Or do you just not believe in God at all.

There's also the deist option that he believes in GOD but doesn't believe that there are rules from GOD or that we don't even know what they are. That GOD has never involved himself in human affairs outside of inception.

 

[whyhellothere]

Originally Posted by Essential1

I'm sensing sarcasm...  But I'll assume it isn't...

I'll choose the side of living life on my own terms.. And helping people because I'm a good person not because someone is making me....

Also I hope you actually read the Bible all the way through because the simple belief in Jesus is not your ticket to Heaven.. There are thousands of precursors.. Things that you don't think need to be taken literally.. That were written to be taken literally.. Do you really think that the book written by God is metaphors? Do you think you only follow it the way you think he means?

I.e.  If you become rich = hell
      You work on the Sabbath = hell
      If you ever ate anything that has fat in it = hell
      Mixing materials of clothing = hell


Also let's not forget that Jesus Christ was JEWISH... So that by itself would make Christianity itself not the religion to pick to accept Jesus Christ..

I can agree that there are tremendous things written in the Bible, things every person should try to live by... BUT there are also despicable and inhumane things against the exact teachings of the Premise of Jesus itself..

Choosing to live a moral life yourself>>>>>>>>>>>> Choosing to live a moral life for your own personal gain (immortality in heaven)...

you just dont get it
Loving Jesus Christ & investing in the church is the only way you can live a moral life
You seem to enjoy defying what the bible is trying to teach us.

Because of your ignorance and lack of understanding and faith, I will be relaxing in the house i was promised in heaven for eternity.  You on the other hand....

 

[whyhellothere]

Originally Posted by Essential1

I'm sensing sarcasm...  But I'll assume it isn't...

I'll choose the side of living life on my own terms.. And helping people because I'm a good person not because someone is making me....

Also I hope you actually read the Bible all the way through because the simple belief in Jesus is not your ticket to Heaven.. There are thousands of precursors.. Things that you don't think need to be taken literally.. That were written to be taken literally.. Do you really think that the book written by God is metaphors? Do you think you only follow it the way you think he means?

I.e.  If you become rich = hell
      You work on the Sabbath = hell
      If you ever ate anything that has fat in it = hell
      Mixing materials of clothing = hell


Also let's not forget that Jesus Christ was JEWISH... So that by itself would make Christianity itself not the religion to pick to accept Jesus Christ..

I can agree that there are tremendous things written in the Bible, things every person should try to live by... BUT there are also despicable and inhumane things against the exact teachings of the Premise of Jesus itself..

Choosing to live a moral life yourself>>>>>>>>>>>> Choosing to live a moral life for your own personal gain (immortality in heaven)...

you just dont get it
Loving Jesus Christ & investing in the church is the only way you can live a moral life
You seem to enjoy defying what the bible is trying to teach us.

Because of your ignorance and lack of understanding and faith, I will be relaxing in the house i was promised in heaven for eternity.  You on the other hand....