Serious question for white people: What makes you proud of your race/culture?

Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

white people have cultures too.....

Irish
Scottish
French
Italian
Norwegian
Swedish
Danish
German
etc.
etc.
dirty you get 100000000 kudos from me for that one! thank you!
 
Originally Posted by supreme math

Originally Posted by lnMyMind

Originally Posted by supreme math

To answer the OP's ridiculous question

What is ridiculous about my question...especially when 5 or 6 people have answered it with no objection and understood exactly what I was asking?

MAYBE YOU'LL READ THIS TIME
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Ok...you got it dude. I obviously touched a nervesomewhere.

once again...thanks to those who answered the question with no objection and understood what I was talking about. I'm not about to get into sidebararguments and debates. I'll be more than happy to continue with the original question/topic in a mature fashion however...
 
Originally Posted by T i c a l


My last name is of English decent and I have German and Irish in me as well. However, I don't really identify with any of those cultures because I view myself as an American. I was born here and have lived here my whole life (with the exception of Spain for a year right after I was born) so this is all I know. One day I'll go find my name in record books and what not in Europe but it's not something I feel the need to have as a part of my life right now. I'm not as much "proud to be white", as you put it, as I am proud to be me and I'm sure it would be that way regardless of what race I was. Race doesn't really mean anything to me at all.

- Tical.

Thank you sir...you answered exactly what I asked and added your own input and why you felt the way you did. Exactly what I was looking for...
 
Originally Posted by Hen Lin 32

Originally Posted by supreme math

To answer the OP's ridiculous question, the answer is "Self-Esteem"...
People with low self-esteem and no sense of self need an emotional shelter to feel whole.
Race is an automatic catalyst to make you feel like YOU belong...Honestly I've dated Black, Asian, White,
and Spanish women and my friend circle is constructed of STRONG people for different ethnic backgrounds.

...Some times race isn't the reason people are alienated, it's because they're weak.
and in this world only the strong survive. Pride is totally different, pride is what you see
at the many annual parades in NYC expressing love for your race.

And BET is actually become a SICK CRY FOR HELP FROM WEAK AFRICAN AMERICANS.
BET allows WEAK MINDED BUFFOONERY TO FLOURISH...All the strong BLACKS take leading
roles on MTV, NBC, ABC, UPN etc. even ESPN.....BET caters to uneducated and disenfranchised BLACKS.
self-stem has nothing to do with it. . you're telling me one race has more confidence than the other?! $%!$$!
and he didn't say that at all....
 
Originally Posted by lnMyMind

Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

but you're also lumping them all into one homogeneous group of "white" people, even though I'm sure each culture is different in their own way
Ehh...white people are white people. They can still ANSWER the question from their specific background point of view. What would be the point of me making a list like you did...when they're still white people? Why waste the time? There wasn't any confusion in my original post. If I was Italian I would have entered the post and responded with, "well coming from an Italian background....so on and so forth". I really don't understand how that's confusing.
The point was that you directed the question to "white people" as a homogeneous group, but, as you acknowledge...there are going to bediffering answers based on their particular background.

Just as Black people aren't just Black people... There are Nigerians, Ethiopians, Guyanese, etc.
Just as Asians aren't just Asians... there are Chinese, Korean, Filipino(gasp!), Thai, etc

Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

I think laying out some those principles would be helpful to know what you're referring to.
I think I threw one out in my original post
I've always wondered was there ever a sense of self awareness taught within white families like there are in black families.

I didn't think that was one of your examples of principles that are taught...more so a lead in to your questions of:...
Basically...what foundation is your pride built on? What makes you proud to be white? Or is this something ya'll don't think about at all?


btw.
I wish Dirty didn't start the trend because I am sure there would have been more legit answers
eh?...how was my answer negative?


dirty, you listed different cultures of people, but rarely do i hear white people on some "oh, well im irish and polish"

i don't think it's stressed much in the white family.....
actually...I hear that all the time.
 
Originally Posted by Hen Lin 32

self-stem has nothing to do with it. . you're telling me one race has more confidence than the other?! $%!$$!


And to my reply to Dirty, I just realized I went off topic, I'm just venting....
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Self-Esteem has everything to do with it...and don't put words in my mouth, I NEVER SAID ONE RACE HAD MORE OR LESS SELF ESTEEM THAT ANOTHER.

I said every race has WEAK INDIVIDUALS WHO FEEL ALIENATED BASED ON RACE!!!

Will Smith, Stuart Scott, Denzel Washinton, Don Barden, OPRAH, OBAMA etc...don't allow race to gauge their success,..that's all I was saying.
 
Originally Posted by eNPHAN

nah, this is a real question...

im baffled by how many white people i know, when asked "so what are you?"

they reply

a.) white

of

b.) american

dirty, you listed different cultures of people, but rarely do i hear white people on some "oh, well im irish and polish"

i don't think it's stressed much in the white family.....
what do you call yourself when a white person asks you?
 
supreme math wrote:
Originally Posted by lnMyMind

Originally Posted by supreme math

To answer the OP's ridiculous question

What is ridiculous about my question...especially when 5 or 6 people have answered it with no objection and understood exactly what I was asking?

MAYBE YOU'LL READ THIS TIME
To answer the OP's ridiculous question, the answer is "Self-Esteem"...

Oh hellz naw .. LMAO
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Portuguese. God, Family, and hard work are all important to me... Yes I'm white. But white is a color not a nationality. When someone asks you what you aredo you say you're black or you're __________ ? (state your nationality there)

How can you be proud of being white? black? brown? You're saying you're proud of being a COLOR... That my friend is racist. If you say you're proudof being spanish, hungarian, ethiopian, south african, etc., that's a different story. It's a different story because you can actually back it up withfacts from your heritage and nation. Being black/white is just summing up many nations into skin color groups.
 
Originally Posted by elboricua 6

supreme math wrote:
Originally Posted by lnMyMind

Originally Posted by supreme math

To answer the OP's ridiculous question

What is ridiculous about my question...especially when 5 or 6 people have answered it with no objection and understood exactly what I was asking?

MAYBE YOU'LL READ THIS TIME
To answer the OP's ridiculous question, the answer is "Self-Esteem"...
Oh hellz naw .. LMAO
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It was that funny homie?

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Originally Posted by StangzNkickz50

Portuguese. God, Family, and hard work are all important to me... Yes I'm white. But white is a color not a nationality. When someone asks you what you are do you say you're black or you're __________ ? (state your nationality there)

How can you be proud of being white? black? brown? You're saying you're proud of being a COLOR... That my friend is racist. If you say you're proud of being spanish, hungarian, ethiopian, south african, etc., that's a different story. It's a different story because you can actually back it up with facts from your heritage and nation. Being black/white is just summing up many nations into skin color groups.

Dog...you're beating a dead horse. This has been explained and clarified about 12 times already in this thread. Nothing was "racist" about what Isaid.
 
Originally Posted by lnMyMind

Originally Posted by StangzNkickz50

Portuguese. God, Family, and hard work are all important to me... Yes I'm white. But white is a color not a nationality. When someone asks you what you are do you say you're black or you're __________ ? (state your nationality there)

How can you be proud of being white? black? brown? You're saying you're proud of being a COLOR... That my friend is racist. If you say you're proud of being spanish, hungarian, ethiopian, south african, etc., that's a different story. It's a different story because you can actually back it up with facts from your heritage and nation. Being black/white is just summing up many nations into skin color groups.

Dog...you're beating a dead horse. This has been explained and clarified about 12 times already in this thread. Nothing was "racist" about what I said.


WOW RELAX!! I'm not calling you a racist! I'm speaking to anyone who says they're proud of being white, black, brown..... Take SUPREME MATH'S advice
MAYBE YOU'LL READ THIS TIME
 
Originally Posted by StangzNkickz50

Originally Posted by lnMyMind

Originally Posted by StangzNkickz50

Portuguese. God, Family, and hard work are all important to me... Yes I'm white. But white is a color not a nationality. When someone asks you what you are do you say you're black or you're __________ ? (state your nationality there)

How can you be proud of being white? black? brown? You're saying you're proud of being a COLOR... That my friend is racist. If you say you're proud of being spanish, hungarian, ethiopian, south african, etc., that's a different story. It's a different story because you can actually back it up with facts from your heritage and nation. Being black/white is just summing up many nations into skin color groups.

Dog...you're beating a dead horse. This has been explained and clarified about 12 times already in this thread. Nothing was "racist" about what I said.


WOW RELAX!! I'm not calling you a racist! I'm speaking to anyone who says they're proud of being white, black, brown..... Take SUPREME MATH'S advice
MAYBE YOU'LL READ THIS TIME

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What you mean relax? Did you see me flip a table or something?
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Some of ya'll dudes give yourselves a lil too much credit on here sometimes
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eNPHAN wrote:
Originally Posted by Dirtylicious


dirty, you listed different cultures of people, but rarely do i hear white people on some "oh, well im irish and polish"

i don't think it's stressed much in the white family.....
actually...I hear that all the time.



okay, you hearing it all the time doesn't change my statement, or that fact that i very rarely hear it...

aint you in NYC?

i'm in middle america, Columbus, Ohio, and for as long as i can remember, a majority of white people who stumble into these sort of conversations answer with either, a.) white or b.) american.

it's always bothered me....i just assumed that these arent values stressed by white american families...





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Dirty we don't agree on relationship issues but, I think were onthe same page.
eNPHAN you said it your self you're in MIDDLE AMERICA the "heartland of racism"
most Eastcoast (especially NYC'ers), Southern and Westcoast regions will clearify their "HERITAGE" in an instant.
The mid-west where clearly more old fashioned values thrive are direct DECENDANTS of the actual "WHITE" settlers
say "WHITE" to strenghten their numbers because THEY'RE WEAK...

NATIVE AMERICANS out numbered "WHITES" 60 to 1 in early AMERICA...and after the CIVIL WAR and "THE GREAT MIGRATION"
AFRICAN AMERICANS migrated to the mid-west in the HENRY FORD BOOM and DEMAND FOR LABOR. there were 7 WHITES to every 1 BLACK but evenwith those minimul numbers WHITES FELT THREATEN which the word "MINORITY" was indoctrinated and WHITES, either Irish, Italian,Greeks, American Indian were reffered to as WHITES to keep the popolus STRONG for elections and union laws...

But on the Eastcoast IMMIGRATION is the NORM and everybody takes pride in their RACE....


HOPE THIS ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION
 
White Pride.
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One reason I'm proud to be white is the fact that we take better care of our neighborhoods(for the most part).
 
Originally Posted by PhillyPG1

White Pride.
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One reason I'm proud to be white is the fact that we take better care of our neighborhoods(for the most part).


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Our outdoor holiday decorations kick @!! as well
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supreme math whats some examples of relationship disagreements you and Dirty have had in the past LOL.
 
Originally Posted by lnMyMind

Originally Posted by StangzNkickz50

Originally Posted by lnMyMind

Originally Posted by StangzNkickz50

Portuguese. God, Family, and hard work are all important to me... Yes I'm white. But white is a color not a nationality. When someone asks you what you are do you say you're black or you're __________ ? (state your nationality there)

How can you be proud of being white? black? brown? You're saying you're proud of being a COLOR... That my friend is racist. If you say you're proud of being spanish, hungarian, ethiopian, south african, etc., that's a different story. It's a different story because you can actually back it up with facts from your heritage and nation. Being black/white is just summing up many nations into skin color groups.

Dog...you're beating a horse. This has been explained and clarified about 12 times already in this thread. Nothing was "racist" about what I said.


WOW RELAX!! I'm not calling you a racist! I'm speaking to anyone who says they're proud of being white, black, brown..... Take SUPREME MATH'S advice
MAYBE YOU'LL READ THIS TIME

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What you mean relax? Did you see me flip a table or something?
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Some of ya'll dudes give yourselves a lil too much credit on here sometimes
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This has nothin to do with what yall are talkin bout but i when folks say calm down or relax. lol That be the S!!! that be really (upsettin) in me off. Got mereplyin "Muthasucka i am calm" lol
 
Originally Posted by eNPHAN

Originally Posted by supreme math

eNPHAN wrote:
Originally Posted by Dirtylicious


dirty, you listed different cultures of people, but rarely do i hear white people on some "oh, well im irish and polish"

i don't think it's stressed much in the white family.....
actually...I hear that all the time.
okay, you hearing it all the time doesn't change my statement, or that fact that i very rarely hear it...

aint you in NYC?

i'm in middle america, Columbus, Ohio, and for as long as i can remember, a majority of white people who stumble into these sort of conversations answer with either, a.) white or b.) american.

it's always bothered me....i just assumed that these arent values stressed by white american families...


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Dirty we don't agree on relationship issues but, I think were on the same page.
eNPHAN you said it your self you're in MIDDLE AMERICA the "heartland of racism"
most Eastcoast (especially NYC'ers), Southern and Westcoast regions will clearify their "HERITAGE" in an instant.
The mid-west where clearly more old fashioned values thrive are direct DECENDANTS of the actual "WHITE" settlers
say "WHITE" to strenghten their numbers because THEY'RE WEAK...

NATIVE AMERICANS out numbered "WHITES" 60 to 1 in early AMERICA...and after the CIVIL WAR and "THE GREAT MIGRATION"
AFRICAN AMERICANS migrated to the mid-west in the HENRY FORD BOOM and DEMAND FOR LABOR. there were 7 WHITES to every 1 BLACK but even with those minimul numbers WHITES FELT THREATEN which the word "MINORITY" was indoctrinated and WHITES, either Irish, Italian, Greeks, American Indian were reffered to as WHITES to keep the popolus STRONG for elections and union laws...

But on the Eastcoast IMMIGRATION is the NORM and everybody takes pride in their RACE....


HOPE THIS ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION

right, but my point was that NYC and Cali are anomalies in this argument.

i said i was in middle america to illustrate my point, a MAJORITY of white american's don't value their specific culture....

at least not as much as other races/culutres i've encountered..

psssh, someone mentioned the portugese, i lived in the Ironbound section of newark when i was younger....dead $#%, i didnt even know portuguese is classified as white, i saw that my school was like 65 percent white, i was like
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, i know ONE white kid...

ask a portuguese person "what are you?" i doubt any of them will answer anything other than "portuguese".....

why? i believe it is because their culture is stressed and valued much more than a midwestern "white" person's is....






Funny you mention PORTUGUESE because they introduced "THE WHITE MAN" to SLAVERY and ACUTUAL ARE THE ONES THAT SOLD AFRICANS TO ENGLISH SETTLERS ofEARLY AMERICA...
 
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