Retro Roseanne show = crushed. *Michael Kay* "See ya!!"

[hand2handking]

‘Roseanne’ Ripped Over ‘Belittling’ Joke About Minority-Led Shows

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/‘roseanne’-ripped-over-‘belittling’-joke-about-minority-led-shows/ar-AAvyw81?ocid=spartandhp

Numerous viewers condemned the recently revived series over a scene in Tuesday's episode where John Goodman's character, Dan Conner, tells Roseanne they "missed all the shows about black and Asian families" because they fell asleep in between "Wheel of Fortune" and "Jimmy Kimmel Live!"

"They're just like us," Roseanne Barr's character responds. "There, now you're all caught up."

The line seemed to take aim at "black-ish" and "Fresh off the Boat," which air between "Wheel of Fortune" and "Kimmel" on ABC, the same network that broadcasts "Roseanne."

Among those who weren't pleased with the joke was "Bob's Burgers" writer Kelvin Yu, who wrote in a series of tweets that "at the very least, it's reductive and belittling."

"But the real kicker is when Roseanne says: 'They're just like us. There, now you're all caught up.' Which implies that the point of any show about a minority family is simply to normalize them," Yu wrote. "That's it. The stories, the humor, the characters... not important."

He then said he wouldn't expect Barr and Goodman's characters to watch series like "black-ish" or "Fresh of the Boat," but contended there was no reason to make the joke in the first place.

"Consider what exactly the audience is laughing at," he wrote. "What exactly is the punchline here? I'll tell you what it is: it's an endorsement of dismissiveness and disregard. It's a familiarity and comfort with the culture of objectifying and demeaning people of color."

"The nerve of roseanne to take potshots at black-ish and fresh off the boat," tweeted Zoe Owens. "We never needed another roseanne. we DO need diversity on television."

 

[thenewjs23]

‘Roseanne’ Ripped Over ‘Belittling’ Joke About Minority-Led Shows

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/‘roseanne’-ripped-over-‘belittling’-joke-about-minority-led-shows/ar-AAvyw81?ocid=spartandhp

This seems like a reach. IMHO

 

[hand2handking]

i bet it does

is the h in imho for humble or honest?

 

[hipstermike]

She thinks she's the reincarnation of Hitler

She should not be on TV

 

[thenewjs23]

She thinks she's the reincarnation of Hitler

She should not be on TV

Have you seen the show, unlike Time Allens last show where he bashed Obama for 30 minutes by name, IIRC Roseanne has yet mention Trump or any left winger or right ringer by name. One episode they dealt with the possibility of a gay grandson in a way my black parents would have.

 

[cosmiccoffee9]

honestly, that's a funny little quip. no worse than Seth McFarlane has been getting away with for a good decade.

 

[ninjahood]

‘Roseanne’ Ripped Over ‘Belittling’ Joke About Minority-Led Shows

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/‘roseanne’-ripped-over-‘belittling’-joke-about-minority-led-shows/ar-AAvyw81?ocid=spartandhp

i remember that episode, good 90's ish right there.

 

[thenewjs23]

honestly, that's a funny little quip. no worse than Seth McFarlane has been getting away with for a good decade.

This, but if he came out in support of trump he would have gotten roasted.

 

[Peep Game]

Didn’t watch Roseanne during the original run, and have no interest in the revival

 

[cosmiccoffee9]

Didn’t watch Roseanne during the original run, and hevd no interest in the revival

you know what, I've been trying to suppress this feeling, but the new contemporary spin on "Middle-American White Family" does have me curious.

it's the only representation of its' kind on TV as far as I know, she was lowkey genius for identifying this niche and exploiting it.

 

[Mark Antony]

Pretty much. I think We've all had the same idea on how to financially exploit these goofs now that we know their cult like support put blinders on them.

 

[ninjahood]

it's the only representation of its' kind on TV as far as I know, she was lowkey genius for identifying this niche and exploiting it.

most of sitcoms'' golden era" were based outta da heartland of america...not sure why certain folks think its a abnormality....

monopolizing that void makes pure dollars.

 

[ninjahood]

This, but if he came out in support of trump he would have gotten roasted.

naw not really. he's a equal opportunity across da isle guy, he's had Rush Limbaugh do voice over work on his show.

 

[Sonny Corinthos]

i remember that episode, good 90's ish right there.

You can keep playing games all you want. You damn well during slavery they would be calling you Toby (instead of Jose) with he rest of them

 

[hand2handking]

yall know what made dem dollas even more than a reboot?

slavery

 

[frshstunna]

F Roseanne and all her MAGA fans

 

[ninjahood]

You can keep playing games all you want.

race baitin dont work on anybody other that white folks...sorry?

anywho... guess ya didn't realize that da little black girl on da reboot is da now grown Son's daughter, which ties in da original episode of him not wanting to kiss a black girl...guess he caught jungle fever alright

 

[ninjahood]

The Real ‘Roseanne’ Effect: How It Could Energize Market for TV Comedies

• Daniel Holloway
  April 3, 2018 11:22AM PDT

Courtesy of ABC
The morning after “Roseanne” made its return to television, ABC Entertainment president Channing Dungey opened an email containing Nielsen’s metered-market ratings — the day’s first indicator of how the previous night’s primetime broadcast offerings were received. What she saw did not make sense.

“I looked at the numbers and I thought, ‘That can’t be right,’” Dungey told Variety. “I honestly was floored. I thought that it was a typo and how can that be.” She remained in disbelief until shortly after 8 a.m., when the fast-national numbers arrived, bringing what happened into focus. “I was like, this is actually real. This is really real.”

“Roseanne” averaged a 5.2 live-plus-same-day rating in the important 18-49 demo and 18.4 million total viewers — both figures higher than those of any other scripted broadcast program this season on a non-Super Bowl night, and better than the family comedy’s original series finale did 21 years ago.


The numbers have only continued to climb in the days since: The program scored the biggest total DVR lift for any telecast on any network after three days of delayed viewing.

Much of the analysis that followed focused on the show’s politics: Star Roseanne Barr is an eager champion of debunked right-wing conspiracies, and the premiere’s storyline hinged on her character’s support for President Donald Trump. And since the 2016 presidential election, television programmers have been working to find ways to reach working-class whites who voted for Trump. The success of “Roseanne” only reaffirmed those efforts. But looking ahead to 2018-19, “Roseanne” may be a harbinger of a less titillating, more significant programming shift — the revitalization of the broadcast comedy after years of emphasis on drama.

This season, three new comedies — CBS’ “Young Sheldon” (3.8 in the demo, 17.2 million viewers), NBC’s “Will & Grace” (3.0, 10.2 million) and “Roseanne” — paint a far stronger picture for broadcast comedy than in seasons past. They not only outperformed in the demo the highest-rated new comedy premiere of 2016-17, CBS’ “Kevin Can Wait” (2.6, 11.1 million), and of 2015-16, CBS’ “Life in Pieces” (2.6, 11.3 million), but also did better than this season’s top new drama, ABC’s “The Good Doctor” (2.2, 11.2 million).


“I’m encouraged by what’s happened here, and in terms of what it means for broadcast in general,” said Dungey, whose comedy lineup — which includes “Modern Family,” “Black-ish” and “The Goldbergs” — boasts more solid performers than most competitors. “We’re going to continue to develop strong comedies here at ABC.”

ABC has 10 comedy pilots in development. Counting straight-to-series orders, CBS has eight, NBC has seven and Fox has six — all on par with last season. With upfronts just two months away, the “Roseanne” factor will have no impact on pilots being shot. But it could affect what ultimately moves to series. Both “Roseanne” and “Will & Grace” are multicams, which studios love because they still have value in the shrinking but lucrative off-network syndication market, but networks have struggled mightily to find success with the format. Only CBS has been able to maintain a robust multicam brand with shows such as “Mom” and “Kevin Can Wait,” but even it has failed to launch an outsize hit in the subgenre in recent years.

“What I’m excited about with ‘Roseanne’ is we have struggled a bit to get a multicam to succeed,” Dungey said. “It makes me really happy that that’s a multicam that is working for us.”

The other factor operating in favor of this season’s freshmen comedy standouts is that they are not true freshmen. “Roseanne” and “Will & Grace” are revivals of two of the most successful comedies in television history. Warner Bros.-produced “Young Sheldon” is a prequel to another hit, “The Big Bang Theory.”

“We’re very lucky to have a fan base that is so invested in the character of Sheldon that they’re curious about his childhood in East Texas,” said “Young Sheldon” showrunner Steve Molaro.

Reboots, particularly in the comedy genre, are a hot trend. CBS has given a straight-to-series order to a revival of “Murphy Brown” for next season. Speculation about new installments of “Mad About You,” “Home Improvement,” “Married With Children” and “Last Man Standing” has persisted.


Such efforts may not represent the freshest thinking in TV, but they could enable broadcast networks to build new comedy blocks or reinvigorate struggling ones, something they have largely failed to do recently. The “Roseanne” premiere had a powerful lead-in effect, boosting “Black-ish” to a ratings season high and new comedy “Splitting Up Together” to a good showing.

But execution remains important. Cautions media consultant Brad Adgate: “The shows have to be good. Otherwise the viewers will just leave. The new shows have to work with the lead-in.”

http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/roseanne-tv-business-comedies-revivals-1202742725/

 

[michigan]

I think they are making fun of how divided our nation has become. With her sister on the show Jackie a die hard liberal while Dan and her are conservatives. Roseanne in real life is more of an independent then anything.

 

[MalcolmNewton]

 

[3900stabler]

Speaking of BMW, I would like to give Topanga a belated hood pass. She was lookin real thick on that show.

 

[dirty]

Never seen an episode of it. Wasnt even born during the entire run of the show
How does it feel to be washed guys?

 

[ahat]

 

[iDon’tRead]

For the longest time Ithought she was Rosie O’Donnell

 

[dirty]

Young and getting it you washed up *** clown. Meanwhile you got old washed up cats paying for......