Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread

[All Ready]

Ross is def a star

just not a superstar

meek was moving slowly towards superstar status then drake hit em with the mutombo finger wave

not making music with drake really slowed their rise

that's why ross been tryna get back cool with drake

 

[VARNELL HILL]

How would an extra few records with Drake help Rick Ross' career?

Who else's career has Drake elevated?

 

[Peep Game]

Ross is def a star

just not a superstar

This. There was always something that kept Ross from truly reaching the next level. Jeezy is always mentioned, but he actually did reach a superstar level, reflected in both popularity and sales. Ross' was only reflected in popularity. Kinda weird, but Ross' music just never resonated with people like that, which sucks cause he actually does make a lot of good music.

 

[LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs]

How would an extra few records with Drake help Rick Ross' career?

Who else's career has Drake elevated?

alot he hasnt been handing out features recently

 

[VARNELL HILL]

So you just not going to give any examples huh?

 

[Deleted member 107398]

So you just not going to give any examples huh?

Abel Tesfaye

 

[VARNELL HILL]

Abel Tesfaye

He didn't "elevate" his career. He introduced him to the world...and he went to the next level on his own.

Again...I'm waiting for someone to explain to me how a few Drake features helps Rick Ross (who's been a major artist for over 15 years now) right now. 

I'm not talking about new artists. 

 

[All Ready]

How would an extra few records with Drake help Rick Ross' career?

Who else's career has Drake elevated?

drake only aligns himself with you if you're the hottest in the game

think about all the collab album rumors drakes been linked to and look at their status

drake/wayne
drake/kanye
drake/future
drake/ross

drake and ross make some of their best music together

also drake was doing songs with meek which was catching fire immediately

drake got a lot of people's songs hot but he did it in a way where it looked like drake made the song

ross the only one who features with drake and doesn't get drowned out by his influence

drake had most of these cats who run the game on his tours

drake is a major influence and having a major influence in your back pocket is a big deal

mmg no longer has that

and introducing someone to the world is the very definition of elevation

that's a whole new fanbase

 

[Deleted member 107398]

Abel Tesfaye

He didn't "elevate" his career. He introduced him to the world...and he went to the next level on his own.

Again...I'm waiting for someone to explain to me how a few Drake features helps Rick Ross (who's been a major artist for over 15 years now) right now. 

I'm not talking about new artists. 

Fair enough.

Sidenote, OVOMMG would've been gold...I'm talking drake, ross, meek, pnd, wale collabs...could never go wrong with those

 

[VARNELL HILL]

drake only aligns himself with you if you're the hottest in the game

think about all the collab album rumors drakes been linked to and look at their status

drake/wayne
drake/kanye
drake/future
drake/ross

drake and ross make some of their best music together

also drake was doing songs with meek which was catching fire immediately

drake got a lot of people's songs hot but he did it in a way where it looked like drake made the song

ross the only one who features with drake and doesn't get drowned out by his influence

drake had most of these cats who run the game on his tours

drake is a major influence and having a major influence in your back pocket is a big deal

mmg no longer has that

You giving son way too much credit.

The Meek/Drake thing happened in the summer of 2015. 

Rick Ross' momentum had already slowed down tremendously from what it was in 2010-2013. I just can't fathom how a few Drake features changes where Rick Ross is as of TODAY.  If his touch is that magical...then he should be able to do a few songs with Wayne and bring him back to the spotlight right? 

 

[LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs]

You giving son way too much credit.

The Meek/Drake thing happened in the summer of 2015. 

Rick Ross' momentum had already slowed down tremendously from what it was in 2010-2013. I just can't fathom how a few Drake features changes where Rick Ross is as of TODAY.  If his touch is that magical...then he should be able to do a few songs with Wayne and bring him back to the spotlight right? 

it would do far more good than harm if you wanna be real

 

[All Ready]

You giving son way too much credit.

The Meek/Drake thing happened in the summer of 2015. 

Rick Ross' momentum had already slowed down tremendously from what it was in 2010-2013. I just can't fathom how a few Drake features changes where Rick Ross is as of TODAY.  If his touch is that magical...then he should be able to do a few songs with Wayne and bring him back to the spotlight right? 

and drake was already tapering off from doing many songs with ross around then

stay schemin was round 2012

also meek with his jail stints

 

[VARNELL HILL]

it would do far more good than harm if you wanna be real

Again...please quantify that for me. 

Also...let's keep in mind that Rick Ross is 41 years old. He had his peak...exactly how much bigger SHOULD he be right now in a genre where the youth dictate everything? 

 

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[wavycrocket]

Ross was as big as he was going to get.

It's cool to see him have a slight resurgsnce though. His last album was well received and moved units.

Even my young ***** that's 21 surprisingly rock with it.

 

[6pac]

Remember hearing the mmmmmmmmmmmmmmaybach was harder then the song.

it's so crazy how that brand has fell off that used to be the best tag in the game

 

[6pac]

Ross would probably catch another hit record with Drake but I don't see the lasting elevation it would have on him.

I guess I could see it if he catches a hit w Drake that then results in higher sales/streaming.

What Ross really needs though is either to re-invent MMG's roster or start an entirely new label and let Meek and Wale handle DC and EBM. He can keep his relevance for another 10-20 years if he's just that OG who runs the label and drops game every now and then. I can see him taking artists around and introducing them to us.

 

[Deleted member 107398]

Partly blame Meek for beefing with Wale publicly while MMG was the hottest in the game...that whole #unotmmg hurt the brand IMO. Y'all supposed to be at the top of the game and Meek was on some jealousy ****

 

[ZOMBAVELI THE DON]

 
Also...let's keep in mind that Rick Ross is 41 years old. He had his peak...exactly how much bigger SHOULD he be right now in a genre where the youth dictate everything? 

this 

 

[VARNELL HILL]

Partly blame Meek for beefing with Wale publicly while MMG was the hottest in the game...that whole #unotmmg hurt the brand IMO. Y'all supposed to be at the top of the game and Meek was on some jealousy ****

They had already fallen off before that. 

 

[wavycrocket]

Ross is good. Like somebody else said...he's 41. He's pretty much accomplished everything that there is that needs to be accomplished by him.

The fact that he's still sought after to do features with the young, hot up and comers....and still can move 105k units with 70k Pure album sales...shows he's solidified and doesn't need to reach.

Make the good music...and they will come. I see Ross having a good 2017. Just keep dropping heat and feeding your core and staying true.

2 Chainz will sell when he drops too.

They had already fallen off before that. 

As a collective? Yeah...they were falling off.

But Meek himself was skyrocketing....and entering that tier that Ross was previously in. By July 2015....Meek was much hotter than his boss. Wale too. As he dropped another Gold album.

 

[VARNELL HILL]

That's what I meant. The whole "MMG" thing was dead by then and that was the beginning of Wale's descent. 

That absolutely was not Meek's fault...and them ****** never liked each other to begin with. 

 

[All Ready]

the soundscape of popular music shifted as someone stated earlier

mmg spent at least 5 years tryna recreate im a boss and bmf

that and no drake (mostly drake), wayne or nicki features crippled mmg

ross is still in the running for album of the year tho

not much out is touching his album

 

[LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs]

He is accomplished but he has his own label. For a label to remain successful you need high sales. The music business is sales driven so doing a 100k copies is fine but that would mean advances from atlantic are going to slim down especially if he is selling more than all of his artist. I know he has money else where doing franchises before yall bring it up.

 

[6pac]

IMO 2013 was when they dropped Self Made 3 and it just kinda came and went as opposed to the other two which had hits to carry it.

they shoulda never signed rockie fresh or stalley...they were never going to be @ the top of any lane....stalley seems like he's suited to be an independent self sufficient does what he wants atist and rockie fresh is just a generic post-ye rapper

should have focused on making Wale, Meek and Omarion top level acts in their lane.  which is still possible for meek (no mainstream street lyrical rappers aside from ross and gates who has other obligations) and omarion (he can make hits and all the r&b cats except him jeremih and chris are on the fake weeknd fake pnd wave)

also should have gave Dom and Nipsey whatever they was asking for in 2012 they all would have brought each other up. 

I also vaguely remember Ross trying to sign Wiz.