Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread

[Magic33]

Do you guys even revisit albums?

Everything is a hot take or microwaved. And a new album or mixtape comes daily, it seems. I know I can't keep up.

We didn't have that, you had to sit with an album. Digest it, listen. Something else might not come out for two or three weeks.

Does your opinion of an album change?

Do you think you'll have the same taste in music in five or ten years?

I didn't care if Illmatic was a classic, I just wanted it to be good and not waste my $15. That's what I hoped., because I purchased music on Tuesday's, most unheard.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Now this is the other end of the extreme. You don't need no damn 20 years to know if something is a classic. People ain't wait 5-10 years to say if albums from the 90's was classics. When Blueprint and GRODT dropped them albums called classics immediately.

We didn't talk in terms of an album as being a classic. The same day Kendrick comes out, it's classic. Nobody was having that discussion about Doggystyle. First, did you like the album. Is the album good.

These discussions you dudes have weren't always done.

And I don't remember this Blueprint and GRODT talk. Maybe amongst the 14 year olds who were listening to 50.

Post Source I notice everything you like has to be classic. When they brought that mic **** to music and people started talking about rap in those terms.

Grown *** people was calling Illmatic, Doggystyle, Blueprint, Ready To Die and GRODT great/classic not that long after. Lying like a mfer.

 

[6pac]

Do you guys even revisit albums?

Everything is a hot take or microwaved. And a new album or mixtape comes daily, it seems. I know I can't keep up.

We didn't have that, you had to sit with an album. Digest it, listen. Something else might not come out for two or three weeks.

Does your opinion of an album change?

Do you think you'll have the same taste in music in five or ten years?

I didn't care if Illmatic was a classic, I just wanted it to be good and not waste my $15. That's what I hoped., because I purchased music on Tuesday's, most unheard.

DS2 has been out for 2 years and I think most people still consume music like this. Nobody was going that hard either way towards Carti's album being trash or classic it was just some cool songs to ride around too.

People exaggerate on Twitter to make a point/be funny/get retweets. Everything is either trash or classic.

 

[Magic33]

Grown *** people was calling Illmatic, Doggystyle, Blueprint, Ready To Die and GRODT great/classic not that long after. Lying like a mfer.

You do realize there is almost a ten year gap between those albums, right?

How old were you when Doggystyle came out?

 

[kevlar]

Is Reasonable Doubt a consensus classic?

cause it's not a perfect album and was not considered classic material when it dropped.

 

[numbah1grimey]

Is Reasonable Doubt a consensus classic?

cause it's not a perfect album and was not considered classic material when it dropped.

Reasonable doubt is definitely a classic. Not one skippable song

 

[Peep Game]

Carter 3 a classic...Jesus Christ.

 

[Hahahaha]

RD didn't get that classic love until Jay kept calling it a classic later on. That **** always annoyed me.


Wayne doesn't have a classic, doesn't have the quality. If you can get through a whole Wayne album without skipping a song, your brain is fried.


Future will never have a classic because his music is ****. It's fast food like they said. McDoubles are good at certain times but that **** is trash.

 

[brandoldguy]

I like your 

RD didn't get that classic love until Jay kept calling it a classic later on. That **** always annoyed me.


Wayne doesn't have a classic, doesn't have the quality. If you can get through a whole Wayne album without skipping a song, your brain is fried.


Future will never have a classic because his music is ****. It's fast food like they said. McDoubles are good at certain times but that **** is trash.

I like your McDonalds correlation. I do believe that Future could have a classic tho.

Not everything on the McDonalds menu is good or gets notoriety, but there is no question that the McDouble is a hood classic. So is a 20 piece nugget and apple pie. Unhealthy classics but standout amongst the rest.

Same applies at a craft restaurant, there are classic menu items and obscure menu items.

With that being said, if you are gonna listen to trap music, you know what genre and what artist is the vibe. If it hits your needs just right and a lot of other people feel the same, i deem that classic. Hence Jeezy - TM:101.

Flyboy - Reasonable Doubt

Boom Bap Slickness - Illmatic

Nolia Bounce - 400 Degrees

on and on and on.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Grown *** people was calling Illmatic, Doggystyle, Blueprint, Ready To Die and GRODT great/classic not that long after. Lying like a mfer.

You do realize there is almost a ten year gap between those albums, right?

How old were you when Doggystyle came out?

I wasn't saying those albums came out at the same time. I'm naming classics as a example. My point is people ain't wait 10-50 years to call something classic. That's false.


I was 5 when Doggystyle dropped.


Reasonable Doubt is probably the only classic that was overlooked til way down the road.

 

[dat dude chris]

Most of the accepted universal classics came out 10+ years ago

Dont yall get it? This generation aint allowed to call anything a classic yet

I can careless bout a classic label, if the album or tape is great to me thats all that matters

 

[All Ready]

let's not forget about the 5 mics rating system where getting a 5 made your album a classic

 

[wavycrocket]

I wasn't saying those albums came out at the same time. I'm naming classics as a example. My point is people ain't wait 10-50 years to call something classic. That's false.


I was 5 when Doggystyle dropped.


Reasonable Doubt is probably the only classic that was overlooked til way down the road.

Facts. This revisionist history be killing me .

Yes, people these days speak in hyperbole and rush to proclaim the latest project as "classic or trash"....however, that doesn't take away from the great projects that drop that get caught up in that discussion.

Also, reasonable doubt is a mature album. Most people appreciate it more when they're grown.

Most of the accepted universal classics came out 10+ years ago

Dont yall get it? This generation aint allowed to call anything a classic yet

I can careless bout a classic label, if the album or tape is great to me thats all that matters

I swear mane. This X 10000

 

[a blinkin]

Carter 3 a classic...Jesus Christ.

at my guy Peep right on time with the Wayne slander.

let's not forget about the 5 mics rating system where getting a 5 made your album a classic

The source gave Em's MMLP 2.5 mics. No way they were ever to be trusted. **** the mics rating system.

 

[kevlar]

We all know why Em got that rating from the Source tho

 

[a blinkin]

My thing is that their issue with Em was publicized. God knows how many other albums got snubbed behind the scenes because of some hating higher up who had a voice in deciding the ratings.

 

[All Ready]

at my guy Peep right on time with the Wayne slander.
The source gave Em's MMLP 2.5 mics. No way they were ever to be trusted. **** the mics rating system.

point is people were calling albums classic out the gate from the start

 

[All_$tar1997]

RD didn't get that classic love until Jay kept calling it a classic later on. That **** always annoyed me.


Wayne doesn't have a classic, doesn't have the quality. If you can get through a whole Wayne album without skipping a song, your brain is fried.


Future will never have a classic because his music is ****. It's fast food like they said. McDoubles are good at certain times but that **** is trash.

All of this.

 

[P C H]

Most of the accepted universal classics came out 10+ years ago

Dont yall get it? This generation aint allowed to call anything a classic yet

I can careless bout a classic label, if the album or tape is great to me thats all that matters

Haha all of this.

But even beyond this, this is how I see it...if you think the rap standard for a classic is like illmatic, or RD, or blueprint or ready to die or Me Against The World, then you probably won't think that DS2 or any super album is a classic. You not getting a classic from this era because the Univesal classics have a certain sound and texture to them that virtually no artist today has with their music.

'Classic' has a certain allure, aura to it. That's why Kendrick is the only artist with a 'classic' because he's the one that most closely resembles those classic albums.

 

[Hahahaha]

Most of the accepted universal classics came out 10+ years ago

Dont yall get it? This generation aint allowed to call anything a classic yet

I can careless bout a classic label, if the album or tape is great to me thats all that matters

Nah, that's not it. People just feel the need to call **** a classic because they want to solidify their favorite artist. Your favorite artists can still make great music and albums without having a classic but fans gotta call everything a classic which is dumb. I listed in here a few days ago that I thought there's a few albums that are classics since 2010 but I need time. I need a year or two, make sure I still feel the same way.

 

[Deleted member 107398]

MBDTF a classic, no matter what anyone thinks.

 

[Magic33]

The Source helped popularize the term, the same way it did the King of New York title.

Nobody said Kane was KONY, nobody said it about Rakim, nobody said that about Nas.

It didn't start happening until The Source had him on the cover.

The same way with classic albums, did people talk about Stevie Wonder, James Brown or Marvin Gaye albums in those terms? Music just didn't start being consumed in the 2000's.

I know about rap from more than one era, because I've experienced it. You dudes take modern terminology and how music is consumed and apply it to before you.

Just like that little discussion about The Weekend. How many classic albums did Bob Marley have in a row? Michael Jackson? Prince? Did people care?

I wasn't saying those albums came out at the same time. I'm naming classics as a example. My point is people ain't wait 10-50 years to call something classic. That's false.

I was 5 when Doggystyle dropped.


Reasonable Doubt is probably the only classic that was overlooked til way down the road.

You're telling me what people were doing and you were five

Facts. This revisionist history be killing me .

Yes, people these days speak in hyperbole and rush to proclaim the latest project as "classic or trash"....however, that doesn't take away from the great projects that drop that get caught up in that discussion.

Do you know what revisionism is?

You're telling me about a period I was actually a part of. And you would know it was false, because?

And I'm still wondering if you dudes actually like stuff because you like it, or because everybody else does and it's the cool thing to like. What happens when it becomes uncool or when he popularity fades? You're still going to be playing Future and The Weekend?

 

[tay1]

You can argue Future, but the Weeknds first three tapes or maybe just HOB are classic. When your music helps change the landscape of a genre, there's no doubt about it. 

 

[Magic33]

That's not saying much, because it's more of a copy cat industry than ever. Music is a hustle and people will do what's popular, because nobody cares who did it first.

So T-Pain has classic albums because he changed music?

 

[osirus]

House of balloons is definitely classic. That and Nostalgia Ultra (Classic as well) were the hitters that year for me.

I can't cosign the next 2 tapes being classic however.