Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread

That's not saying much, because it's more of a copy cat industry than ever. Music is a hustle and people will do what's popular, because nobody cares who did it first.

So T-Pain has classic albums because he changed music?
T-pain had great songs, no one will vouch for any certain album he has. HOB overall consensus is that it definitely changed R&B. The mystery and aura around who he was, along with the sound and the quality of the tape is what makes it a classic. 
 
Yeah that's when the source started losing their credibility with Bezino.
The Source helped popularize the term, the same way it did the King of New York title.

Nobody said Kane was KONY, nobody said it about Rakim, nobody said that about Nas.

It didn't start happening until The Source had him on the cover.

The same way with classic albums, did people talk about Stevie Wonder, James Brown or Marvin Gaye albums in those terms? Music just didn't start being consumed in the 2000's.

I know about rap from more than one era, because I've experienced it. You dudes take modern terminology and how music is consumed and apply it to before you.

Just like that little discussion about The Weekend. How many classic albums did Bob Marley have in a row? Michael Jackson? Prince? Did people care?

I wasn't saying those albums came out at the same time. I'm naming classics as a example. My point is people ain't wait 10-50 years to call something classic. :lol That's false.

I was 5 when Doggystyle dropped.


Reasonable Doubt is probably the only classic that was overlooked til way down the road.

You're telling me what people were doing and you were five :lol


Facts. This revisionist history be killing me :lol.

Yes, people these days speak in hyperbole and rush to proclaim the latest project as "classic or trash"....however, that doesn't take away from the great projects that drop that get caught up in that discussion.

Do you know what revisionism is?

You're telling me about a period I was actually a part of. And you would know it was false, because?

And I'm still wondering if you dudes actually like stuff because you like it, or because everybody else does and it's the cool thing to like. What happens when it becomes uncool or when he popularity fades? You're still going to be playing Future and The Weekend?


Stick to the point.:lol People was not waiting years and years to say what's a classic.
 
It depends on the album. Some get that instant classic title due to the impact it may have, but some albums need time to get that stamp on it. Not saying that it is a classic but 808's wasn't appreciated all that much by fans when first released, but it defintely is looked at differently seeing how later artists were influenced by it.
 
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It depends on the album. Some get that instant classic title due to the impact it may have, but some albums need time to get that stamp on it. Not saying that it is a classic but 808's wasn't appreciated all that much by fans when first released, but it defintely is looked at differently seeing how were influenced by it.

Of course it depends. But dude keeps saying "oh we waited years and years to call something a classic" which is false and "talk to me in 20 years". :lol


Who the hell waits 20 years to call something a classic?
 
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That's not saying much, because it's more of a copy cat industry than ever. Music is a hustle and people will do what's popular, because nobody cares who did it first.

So T-Pain has classic albums because he changed music?

the fact that u said this like it was ridiculous shows the divide

his first three albums can be argued for, second and third ones are almost undeniable; 1st could use some trimming

all of them suffer from 2-3 weaker tracks but there is classic music on all of them, stuff that i still bump now even when its not cool to rock w t pain

but i doubt u even listened to them u probably think its 20 shawty get lows on them lol
 
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also weeknd influenced much more than the music

the whole mysterious r&b guy wave (Nav, 24hrs, PND, etc.) down to even how they market and present themselves when they first are introduced to us is indebted to him

but i want bright bouncy regular r&b back this passive aggressive fake numb **** jumped the shark a long time ago
 
Wayne has changed the landscape of the genre
Carter 1-3 are classics
 
T-Pain made a impact but I dont know about :lol


What T-Pain is a classic to you? His first 2 albums are good but i aint never heard somebody say Rappa Turnt Singa or Emphany are classics.

In the South, especially Florida, those are classics.

"I'm in love with a stripper" shifted the plates a little bit
 
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So T-Pain has classic albums because he changed music?

Yes. Srs.

One of the more underappreciated prodigies in all of music.

T-Pain made a impact but I dont know about :lol


What T-Pain is a classic to you? His first 2 albums are good but i aint never heard somebody say Rappa Turnt Singa or Emphany are classics.

He widely affected hip-hop (autotune was his bridge)

I'll go off on a tangent and say without t-pain, we wouldn't have gotten 808's & Heartbreak
 
He widely affected hip-hop (autotune was his bridge)

I'll go off on a tangent and say without t-pain, we wouldn't have gotten 808's & Heartbreak
T Pain is influential, and he had hits, but I never heard anyone speak in high regard of one of his albums. 
 
So T-Pain has classic albums because he changed music?

Yes. Srs.

One of the more underappreciated prodigies in all of music.

T-Pain made a impact but I dont know about :lol


What T-Pain is a classic to you? His first 2 albums are good but i aint never heard somebody say Rappa Turnt Singa or Emphany are classics.

He widely affected hip-hop (autotune was his bridge)

I'll go off on a tangent and say without t-pain, we wouldn't have gotten 808's & Heartbreak

I just said he made a impact. :lol


He has no classic albums though.
 
So T-Pain has classic albums because he changed music?

Yes. Srs.

One of the more underappreciated prodigies in all of music.

T-Pain made a impact but I dont know about :lol


What T-Pain is a classic to you? His first 2 albums are good but i aint never heard somebody say Rappa Turnt Singa or Emphany are classics.

He widely affected hip-hop (autotune was his bridge)

I'll go off on a tangent and say without t-pain, we wouldn't have gotten 808's & Heartbreak

I just said he made a impact. :lol


He has no classic albums though.

I agree...no classic albums

Buy You A Drank still gets play to this day though :smokin
 
Buy you a drink is such a dope song. It's perfect.

Sht just make you feel good. Start hitting the lil joc motorcycle dance all in the club :lol
 
So Lil Jon had classic albums too :lol

Funny conversation when quality doesn't even matter, just influence.

I guess we need to start saying Too The Extreme and Let's Get It Started are classic albums :lol


Yeah that's when the source started losing their credibility with Bezino.
Stick to the point.:lol People was not waiting years and years to say what's a classic.

You don't seem to get it, most likely intentionally. That term wasn't even used.

Just like several things in sneaker culture like hypebeast and reselling didn't always exist. Did people just start buying sneakers ten years ago?

Nobody heard The Chronic or 36 Chambers and said the album was classic the first day or even a year later. People didn't start using that term until the term became popularized.

You're arguing against something you weren't even around to experience, and have no basis to even argue against it on.
 
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