Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread

[Magic33]

Every region had BS come out where lyrics didn't matter. The South is just an easy scapegoat for some. Such a lazy conclusion to draw.

The difference is now the south has made lyrics not mattering the standard. So now lyrics don't matter.

That's why everyone is rapping. There is no talent involved. There is no lyricism involved.

You either dumb down your lyrics or your lyrics are just dumb.

 

[wavycrocket]

Not really. What he's saying has been going on for YEARS what Trouble was saying has been going on for YEARS ..

YOU just try to make it some simplistic "old nyers hating" nonsense when basically all the legends from all over don't mess with the trash you champion

You out still still calling people regionally bias who grew up in the ringtone rap era

Lazy.

No it's not.

The south is producing a bunch of bull**** other regions are copying.

It's not lyrical and is a terrible influence on the youth.

And older artist have longevity now, because they're growing with the music and can't listen to the bull**** young people put out.

90s southern rap and 2010s southern rap are so different, no need to even compare the two. South killed Hip Hop, lyrics didn't matter anymore once the south took over Rap.

Influencing kids to speak unintelligible english, get face tattoos, and do drugs is a good space. Stop

It's poisoning the youth.

Atlanta specifically puts out more garbage than any other region on some attack of the clones type **** this is a fact. Ive had people in the industry tell me to my face that talent doesn't matter it's all about what kind of canvas they can create, what type of artist they can "build". The attention is here so it's easier for a anyone with a small bag to "pop". I've literally had execs ask me if I wanted to rap and how they would market me lol. Probably not even supposed to be saying this **** but I really don't care.

The process is literally.

1. Get bag from hustling/lawsuit/saving
2. Hang out at the poppin spots and meet someone who's "in"
3. Cop a beat that sounds similar to the last **** that popped from the city
4. Use the same generic flow and apply it to said beat
5. Use some of that bag to peddle song in strip clubs
6. Get the video shot
7. The dude that you met that's "in" will supply the director, people in the video, and the **** that you never met before
8. Let the machine work
9. Get the tape made, sign a 360, and have a summer or two poppin with a few of your singles in rotation
10. Fade to Oblivion

Atlanta created and will always be the capital of microwave rap.

Yikes!

Clicks on poster location....Generational and Regional bias

 

[supersaiyangod]

Atlanta specifically puts out more garbage than any other region on some attack of the clones type **** this is a fact. Ive had people in the industry tell me to my face that talent doesn't matter it's all about what kind of canvas they can create, what type of artist they can "build". The attention is here so it's easier for a anyone with a small bag to "pop". I've literally had execs ask me if I wanted to rap and how they would market me lol. Probably not even supposed to be saying this **** but I really don't care.

The process is literally.

1. Get bag from hustling/lawsuit/saving
2. Hang out at the poppin spots and meet someone who's "in"
3. Cop a beat that sounds similar to the last **** that popped from the city
4. Use the same generic flow and apply it to said beat
5. Use some of that bag to peddle song in strip clubs
6. Get the video shot
7. The dude that you met that's "in" will supply the director, people in the video, and the **** that you never met before
8. Let the machine work
9. Get the tape made, sign a 360, and have a summer or two poppin with a few
of your singles in rotation
10. Fade to Oblivion

Atlanta created and will always be the capital of microwave rap.

how is this any different from the most popular rappers from 90s NY rap? they all were trying to stack multi-rhymes over sample based beats with loud drums. subject matter was the same, mostly violent or drug dealing narratives. you could argue their flow was "generic" too... Nas "Take It In Blood" sound 1:1 Ghostface's verse on "Ice Water"

Only difference is they werent promoting it at the strip club

My response was dude that tried to say Pusha was “boom bap”. He’s not that specifically.

I aint try to say Pusha is boom bap I was sayin Daytona, a boom bap album, is one of the highest selling rap albums in 2018 beating out most non-boom bap albums' sales.

 

[kingfoamnyc]

how is this any different from the most popular rappers from 90s NY rap?

Idk talent ? Classic records/albums ? Longevity ?

 

[Magic33]

how is this any different from the most popular rappers from 90s NY rap? they all were trying to stack multi-rhymes over sample based beats with loud drums. subject matter was the same, mostly violent or drug dealing narratives. you could argue their flow was "generic" too... Nas "Take It In Blood" sound 1:1 Ghostface's verse on "Ice Water"

Only difference is they werent promoting it at the strip club

Everyone was doing this?

And no the subject matter wasn't the same.

Was Nas doing the same thing on every song?

And to use your examples didn't Nas and Ghostface gave you a balance? Do you want to go down Biggie's songs song by song to see the diversity?

You don't see the difference in Nas, from Tribe, from Snoop, from the Geto Boys, from Outkast, from Tupac, from Pun, from Naughty?

You dudes defend this stuff with the most ridiculous defense.

 

[Hahahaha]

I heard that Young Dolph diss to Yo Gotti yesterday for the first time. Play Wit Yo *****, play that **** and tell me the south didn't kill hip hop. He not even rhyming words and half the song he just talking. **** was one of the worst songs I've ever heard. That's why it's so easy to point the finger at the south. They've been running rap for 10+ years and that **** is trash. **** ain't even debatable.



Where does that Tekayshi 69 kid get his sound and influence? The south, he can be from NY but he sound like a southern rapper. Lyrics and beats and it's ****in trash.

 

[kingfoamnyc]

We gotta get the podcast started this year.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Every city got these copycats. Not just Atlanta.


Designer, Phresher, informant 69, A-Boogie ain't bringing lyrics back to NY. Lil Uzi is from Philly.

I aint try to say Pusha is boom bap I was sayin Daytona, a boom bap album, is one of the highest selling rap albums in 2018 beating out most non-boom bap albums' sales.

When you think about Pusha's solo run he's mainly been rapping on RZA style beats. He's even said this in his interviews, he wants that Only Built For Cuban Linx sound so it's not a stretch to say he's boom bap.

 

[sosa labumba]

Ay no cap but that Uncle Drew soundtrack was kinda hitting yesterday when I was doing my cardio in the gym

 

[addict4sneakers]

I think technology has given us more access to trash. I’m not going kill this generation b/c some of the music is really good. I can’t get down with the blatant style/flow jacking though. But there were dudes jacking flows and getting signed for sounding like legends back in the days too (bathgate.) how many dudes ran to swizz, rockwilder, and whomever to get a recycled hit

 

[kingfoamnyc]

Some of y'all don't know how to properly debate or have a conversation when opinions differ. This forum and subject in particular is just compromised in circle talking, maybe if we can get a podcast going the conversations can actually go somewhere.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

I heard that Young Dolph diss to Yo Gotti yesterday for the first time. Play Wit Yo *****, play that **** and tell me the south didn't kill hip hop. He not even rhyming words and half the song he just talking. **** was one of the worst songs I've ever heard. That's why it's so easy to point the finger at the south. They've been running rap for 10+ years and that **** is trash. **** ain't even debatable.

1. Slap yoself for being so late

2. Slap yoself for the disrespect, that's a hard diss

 

[Proposition Joe]

I’m from the south and feel that the south ruined hiphop to a certain extant, specifically Fabo

Pre 2003 southern artist took rapping and rhyming serious, < 03 artist said damn this rapping stuff

 

[wavycrocket]

1. Slap yoself for being so late

2. Slap yoself for the disrespect, that's hard diss

GREAT DISS!

“Ho gotti, you a ho mayne”

 

[Magic33]

I think technology has given us more access to trash. I’m not going kill this generation b/c some of the music is really good. I can’t get down with the blatant style/flow jacking though. But there were dudes jacking flows and getting signed for sounding like legends back in the days too (bathgate.) how many dudes ran to swizz, rockwilder, and whomever to get a recycled hit

Bathgate, haven't heard that name in ages

1. Slap yoself for being so late

2. Slap yoself for the disrespect, that's a hard diss

I’m from the south and feel that the south ruined hiphop to a certain extant, specifically Fabo

Pre 2003 southern artist took rapping and rhyming serious, < 03 artist said damn this rapping stuff

This is all we're saying.

Nobody is saying Scarface and Outkast were wack.

Nobody is saying Juvenile is wack.

Dudes today become rappers in six months.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

But this is my questions, if the south ruined hip hop what was NY doing with it?

If all these young NY artists are influenced by the south don't that mean NY is also ruining hip hop?

Is it the south's fault NY rappers want to be them?

 

[Proposition Joe]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bars

 

[RIP sleazyy]

South slander

Blame the rappers instead of the consumers brehs.

 

[Deleted member 107398]

Y’all catergorizing ‘05-‘08 Wayne as a southern artist?

 

[Hahahaha]

But this is my questions, if the south ruined hip hop what was NY doing with it?

If all these young NY artists are influenced by the south don't that mean NY is also ruining hip hop?

Is it the south's fault NY rappers want to be them?

The south has the popular sound and selling the most and getting the most spins, these trash *** NY rappers using the same flow, lyrics, beats, melodies and slang. You can blame them too but this era will forever be the south era and it's trash.

And I never want to hear that Dolph song again. I was laughing at how bad of a song it was. He could have tweeted that ****.

 

[addict4sneakers]

Dolph is trash but he isn’t anymore trash than Silkk was 20 years ago

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Y’all catergorizing ‘05-‘08 Wayne as a southern artist?

Why wouldn't we?

And I never want to hear that Dolph song again. I was laughing at how bad of a song it was. He could have tweeted that ****.

Don't play with me, play with your *****
Young ***** on some multi million dollar ****

 

[Hahahaha]

Silkk raps way better than Dolph. He's actually rhyming, one bar can have six words and the next bar can have sixty words but he's still on beat and rhyming. Dolph sounded like he was reading a text convo out loud.

 

[str8drop]

I think technology has given us more access to trash. I’m not going kill this generation b/c some of the music is really good.

This is true. From the artist side technology broke down a lot of the barriers. In the 90's you needed money to actually get your **** up and running. Studio time and all that **** ain't cheap. Plus A LOT of the artists dudes were listening to had already been packaged up and developed by these labels

Now you can go to soundcloud and hear some **** a _ just recorded last night in his bedroom on a laptop/cracked version of logic with a interface and mic from guitar center .No middleman to put a package on it, just raw undeveloped *** music. And a lot of it lol.

I think the beauty of it now is that every once in a while you come across a dude that has legitimately developed themselves, sometimes better than what a label could've or would've did.

 

[addict4sneakers]

Silkk raps way better than Dolph. He's actually rhyming, one bar can have six words and the next bar can have sixty words but he's still on beat and rhyming. Dolph sounded like he was reading a text convo out loud.

You can’t slander lil face tat and think Silkk was a good rapper. That’s just generational bias.