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Aight, now you lying to us
Silk was so off beat stuttering and whatnot. I'm still mad at P for putting Silk on half of Ghetto D.
Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread
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Aight, now you lying to us
Silk was so off beat stuttering and whatnot. I'm still mad at P for putting Silk on half of Ghetto D.
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Why are we still segregating sounds in 2018? The internet and pop culture has made music far more universal, hence everyone sounding the same regardless of where they're coming from. Attributing a "sound" to a sector of the U.S. is kind of archaic to me.
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I don't think Silkk was great or even good but he's also not the worst. For some reason over the last few years the trend became calling him the worst of all time which is crazy. Throw on that Dolph, 69, half the **** Wavy posts. That music make Silkk sound like Jay Z.
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Regional sounds died a few years ago. At this point it's just genres, and even genres are crossing over.
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Well he’s from the south
But he cared about being lyrical and that energy came from the influence NY rappers had of him.
Proposition Joe
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Silk da shocker is probably the worst rapper I’ve ever heard in my life
But still
But still
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Silk da shocker is probably the worst rapper I’ve ever heard in my life
But still
This man here
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silkk dont even rhyme... he shouldnt be compared to anyone smfh
Everyone was doing this?
And no the subject matter wasn't the same.
Was Nas doing the same thing on every song?
And to use your examples didn't Nas and Ghostface gave you a balance? Do you want to go down Biggie's songs song by song to see the diversity?
You don't see the difference in Nas, from Tribe, from Snoop, from the Geto Boys, from Outkast, from Tupac, from Pun, from Naughty?
You dudes defend this stuff with the most ridiculous defense.
I do see the difference, but I also see the difference in the Southern artists that you guys are saying all sound the same lol. I'm just generalizing 90s NY Rappers the way you guys are Generalizing Present Southern Rappers, or present-popular rappers I guess?
The guy laid out 10 steps on how to get poppin today in a generalized matter, I can make an 10-step generalization of NY Rap in the 90s too:
1) Listen to rap that's out, it has multiple syllables rhyming, make sure to do the same, and rap about the same stuff that everyone else in the area is rapping about
2) Everybody is out in cyphers displaying their rhymes, do the same thing until a drug dealer or crew spots you becoming a popular guy so they can invest and wash their drug money through you poppin
3) those sets already got ties to ppl in music, so they present your work to them. gang gang also making u look like a rapper by making sure u got on all the right jewlery and clothing
4) got a 360 deal now they gonna give it a radio run n all that
5) get that **** played at the tunnel where ppl became stars overnight
6) music video budget put towards the song u got hyped up out at the tunnel
7) let the machine work
since you're one of the first to release a body of work, ppl hailing u for releasing a classic9) lose relevance as time goes on
10) complain a decade or two later about cultural shifts
examples: (i just wanna make it clear that i dont view any of the following the way im writing it, im playing devil's advocate. the same way yall saying hey future young thug rich homie quan baby n gunna all sound the same or follow the same formula, i can reduce past rappers the same way... in my opinion, both old and present all have their own properties but are influenced by who they like)
kool g rap was doing mafioso rap
nas, raekwon, ghostface, biggie, all went to go do it afterwards. is this not the same as ppl doing trap music?
rakim sounded like himself, nas was hailed as the 2nd coming, and 2pac dissed Nas for "sounding exactly like Rakim" which means what? someone is copying someone. 2 decades later, rich homie quan and fetty wap receive criticism for sounding like Future. (to me, Nas & Rakim are not the same rapper at all, Fetty n Quan n Future are not the same rapper at all, but it's easy to reduce rappers to a common deniminator right?)
nas and mobb deep are from the same area.
they're rapping about sipping E&J. a regional thing. as regional as buss down rollies being a sign of being accomplished in Atlanta and everyone in the area rapping about it (i know it's not only atlanta, im giving an example)
Illmatic has Nas' baby picture, Ready to Die has a baby picture, Raekwon & Ghostface tell Nas Biggie is biting the album cover and the rapping style, Nas admits a decade later "he was studying all 3 of them and being influenced in his own raps," and u can see as much of similarities in how all 4 of these individuals rap as Thug/Future/Lil Baby/Fetty/Quan/Gunna, and u can CLEARLY see a difference in all of them too.
it's all the same thing. if u guys are gonna reduce certain rappers to their region or era's common denominators strictly, then keep that same energy for all eras and regions tbh.
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a day late but **** it 
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Street Dreams is one of the GOAT songs
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I get you on content of rhymes as well as the sound of ones voice.silkk dont even rhyme... he shouldnt be compared to anyone smfh
I do see the difference, but I also see the difference in the Southern artists that you guys are saying all sound the same lol. I'm just generalizing 90s NY Rappers the way you guys are Generalizing Present Southern Rappers, or present-popular rappers I guess?
The guy laid out 10 steps on how to get poppin today in a generalized matter, I can make an 10-step generalization of NY Rap in the 90s too:
1) Listen to rap that's out, it has multiple syllables rhyming, make sure to do the same, and rap about the same stuff that everyone else in the area is rapping about
2) Everybody is out in cyphers displaying their rhymes, do the same thing until a drug dealer or crew spots you becoming a popular guy so they can invest and wash their drug money through you poppin
3) those sets already got ties to ppl in music, so they present your work to them. gang gang also making u look like a rapper by making sure u got on all the right jewlery and clothing
4) got a 360 deal now they gonna give it a radio run n all that
5) get that **** played at the tunnel where ppl became stars overnight
6) music video budget put towards the song u got hyped up out at the tunnel
7) let the machine work
9) lose relevance as time goes on
10) complain a decade or two later about cultural shifts
examples: (i just wanna make it clear that i dont view any of the following the way im writing it, im playing devil's advocate. the same way yall saying hey future young thug rich homie quan baby n gunna all sound the same or follow the same formula, i can reduce past rappers the same way... in my opinion, both old and present all have their own properties but are influenced by who they like)
kool g rap was doing mafioso rap
nas, raekwon, ghostface, biggie, all went to go do it afterwards. is this not the same as ppl doing trap music?
rakim sounded like himself, nas was hailed as the 2nd coming, and 2pac dissed Nas for "sounding exactly like Rakim" which means what? someone is copying someone. 2 decades later, rich homie quan and fetty wap receive criticism for sounding like Future. (to me, Nas & Rakim are not the same rapper at all, Fetty n Quan n Future are not the same rapper at all, but it's easy to reduce rappers to a common deniminator right?)
nas and mobb deep are from the same area.
they're rapping about sipping E&J. a regional thing. as regional as buss down rollies being a sign of being accomplished in Atlanta and everyone in the area rapping about it (i know it's not only atlanta, im giving an example)
Illmatic has Nas' baby picture, Ready to Die has a baby picture, Raekwon & Ghostface tell Nas Biggie is biting the album cover and the rapping style, Nas admits a decade later "he was studying all 3 of them and being influenced in his own raps," and u can see as much of similarities in how all 4 of these individuals rap as Thug/Future/Lil Baby/Fetty/Quan/Gunna, and u can CLEARLY see a difference in all of them too.
it's all the same thing. if u guys are gonna reduce certain rappers to their region or era's common denominators strictly, then keep that same energy for all eras and regions tbh.
But at the end of the day step 1 and 2 takes immense talent. You talk as if putting together complex rhyme schemes is some simple task.
As if rhyming and most importantly shining in a cypher/block/neighborhood is simple when everybody with a pulse is spitting. I think that’s the main difference.
I’m sure there were people back in the day that tried that roadmap and didn’t make it because they weren't good.
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Regionalism is old and dated, but tell me you didn’t double take at dudes like Jay Critch and Uzi sounding like they been in Atlanta forever.
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Finally found the CD. I was thinking, TDE makes the best videos. They actually put thought into them.
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This is a goat Silkk verse:
And I be seein **** that ain't there,
It ain't there but I be seein ****,
I be in places without bein seen there,
But be seein a place without even bein there
Basically the original
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this thread fell off harder than hip hop 
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absolutely, there's several rappers in the 90s that didnt make it simply because they probably didnt look marketable, didnt have street-pull, or ppl wasnt feeling their energy (i dont have evidence im just using logic)
but this is the part where I think the divide comes.
the belief here is that "anyone and they momma can be a rapper nowadays, get a computer, buy a cheap mic, throw on autotune, buy a 'generic' beat, and you'll blow up"
there's millions of rappers uploading songs on soundcloud, how many of them going viral? 3 new rappers per year are entering the Hot 100 or the Billboard 200 ? (the only things that matter).
that's only a select few making it for real, while the others go viral for 15 secs and are never heard of again (they aint even got the chance to make the money)
1) it's difficult to get viral in the first place
2) continuing to go viral and staying in the game is difficult too
3) if all music sounds the same, then why would someone listen to you and be a follower of you instead of someone else who's making the same exact music? u need some sort of something to convince them that even though there are similarities, u yet still stand out from the millions of uploads on soundcloud
u could say, all this is as difficult as remaining hot in those cyphers to get noticed.
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Good and bad music coming outta everywhere ...enjoy what u like and tune out the rest
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Once again 96 was a legendary year.
Proposition Joe
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RD is still the greatest hiphop album ever released
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Cali definitely has a sound
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TipsyMcStagga
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Silk is the only trash rapper that I can think of with a classic album. Charge It to the Game is
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Something so simple but something people will never understand
