Proposition Joe
formerly rollinwithangel
- Oct 5, 2012
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And pretty Ricky is the only trash r&b group to have a classic album
Bluestars was
Bluestars was
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silkk dont even rhyme... he shouldnt be compared to anyone smfh
I do see the difference, but I also see the difference in the Southern artists that you guys are saying all sound the same lol. I'm just generalizing 90s NY Rappers the way you guys are Generalizing Present Southern Rappers, or present-popular rappers I guess?
The guy laid out 10 steps on how to get poppin today in a generalized matter, I can make an 10-step generalization of NY Rap in the 90s too:
1) Listen to rap that's out, it has multiple syllables rhyming, make sure to do the same, and rap about the same stuff that everyone else in the area is rapping about
2) Everybody is out in cyphers displaying their rhymes, do the same thing until a drug dealer or crew spots you becoming a popular guy so they can invest and wash their drug money through you poppin
3) those sets already got ties to ppl in music, so they present your work to them. gang gang also making u look like a rapper by making sure u got on all the right jewlery and clothing
4) got a 360 deal now they gonna give it a radio run n all that
5) get that **** played at the tunnel where ppl became stars overnight
6) music video budget put towards the song u got hyped up out at the tunnel
7) let the machine work
since you're one of the first to release a body of work, ppl hailing u for releasing a classic
9) lose relevance as time goes on
10) complain a decade or two later about cultural shifts
examples: (i just wanna make it clear that i dont view any of the following the way im writing it, im playing devil's advocate. the same way yall saying hey future young thug rich homie quan baby n gunna all sound the same or follow the same formula, i can reduce past rappers the same way... in my opinion, both old and present all have their own properties but are influenced by who they like)
kool g rap was doing mafioso rap
nas, raekwon, ghostface, biggie, all went to go do it afterwards. is this not the same as ppl doing trap music?
rakim sounded like himself, nas was hailed as the 2nd coming, and 2pac dissed Nas for "sounding exactly like Rakim" which means what? someone is copying someone. 2 decades later, rich homie quan and fetty wap receive criticism for sounding like Future. (to me, Nas & Rakim are not the same rapper at all, Fetty n Quan n Future are not the same rapper at all, but it's easy to reduce rappers to a common deniminator right?)
nas and mobb deep are from the same area.
they're rapping about sipping E&J. a regional thing. as regional as buss down rollies being a sign of being accomplished in Atlanta and everyone in the area rapping about it (i know it's not only atlanta, im giving an example)
Illmatic has Nas' baby picture, Ready to Die has a baby picture, Raekwon & Ghostface tell Nas Biggie is biting the album cover and the rapping style, Nas admits a decade later "he was studying all 3 of them and being influenced in his own raps," and u can see as much of similarities in how all 4 of these individuals rap as Thug/Future/Lil Baby/Fetty/Quan/Gunna, and u can CLEARLY see a difference in all of them too.
it's all the same thing. if u guys are gonna reduce certain rappers to their region or era's common denominators strictly, then keep that same energy for all eras and regions tbh.
glad u agree that reducing rappers down to common denominators or emphasizing the scope on one aspect is comical, as comical as reducing Eminem to a "shock-rapper" / T.I. & Jeezy as trap rappers (as if none of the aforementioned also have conscious raps or other subgenres) / or Young Thug and Future only being trap rappersThere's so much comedy in this.
Yep, that's all Biggie and Nas did was mafioso rap.
Why are we still segregating sounds in 2018? The internet and pop culture has made music far more universal, hence everyone sounding the same regardless of where they're coming from. Attributing a "sound" to a sector of the U.S. is kind of archaic to me.
What we not bout to do is start slandering dolph up in here
So in one of my group chats we talkin about who had the greatest album run which turned into who had the number 2 and 3 album runs because the obvious #1 is Outkast.
Who yall got in 2 and 3 spot?
glad u agree that reducing rappers down to common denominators or emphasizing the scope on one aspect is comical, as comical as reducing Eminem to a "shock-rapper" / T.I. & Jeezy as trap rappers (as if none of the aforementioned also have conscious raps or other subgenres) / or Young Thug and Future only being trap rappers
I can't help but laugh at what you type
How do you determine this?
and what is your criteria
I think consecutive.Pac, NaS, DMX, Em off the top of my head. All had three great projects in a row.
Wait you walking about all of their albums or just consecutive good albums?
Dj quik up there on the consecutive list
Em had 3 consecutive?