Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread

“They turn they back and they leave you
They gon' be back when they need you”





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Nah that’s actually exactly what he wants he basically said it in the interview :lol:. Talked about how he ahead of his time and it take the masses a year or two to catch on etc just like some Wale ****. He wants to be heralded as a visionary like the dudes he hang out with ( ala Kanye, Frank Ocean) but also for some weird reason wants to be recognized by the art world as a fine artist, _’s wanna be Basquiat

Dude called himself the "greatest contemporary artist of all time", _'s just using buzz words don't even know what they saying lol

Naw, that's different than wanting to be the best rapper.

Kanye didn't want to be the best rapper. He wanted to be the most fashionable and influential. That's the same lane as Rocky.

Cole, Kendrick and Wale want to be respected for them rapping. They don't really care about the rest. Well, Wale does, because he doesn't get credit.

Rocky wants to get credit for swag, sound, influence. He's always wanted to be bigger than just a rapper. That's why I don't think he is cold, because he's one of the few who can step away from rap and the music and still have the same visibility as a celebrity.
 
The newest episode is right on this page my g, you could've found this answer yourself within like 20 seconds :lol:

It's those two and Nadeska. Complex ran out of grouchy ___s to underpay.
Complex been betting on Akedemiks fans carrying the show...but it hasnt been taking off like they hoped since Buddens left ...they just need to end it or start something new
 
Naw, that's different than wanting to be the best rapper.

Kanye didn't want to be the best rapper. He wanted to be the most fashionable and influential. That's the same lane as Rocky.

Cole, Kendrick and Wale want to be respected for them rapping. They don't really care about the rest. Well, Wale does, because he doesn't get credit.

Rocky wants to get credit for swag, sound, influence. He's always wanted to be bigger than just a rapper. That's why I don't think he is cold, because he's one of the few who can step away from rap and the music and still have the same visibility as a celebrity.

Lmfao how do you know what they want :rollin

Kanye when he was really at his peak said he was the best for years...what are you talking about
 
I don’t ever recall Ye saying he was the best “rapper”, more like most influential artist etc etc.

He was saying how JT was supposed to be the king of pop but he didnt make 808’s & Heartbreak so Kanye is the king of pop or some **** like that

Rocky really just using music as a vehicle for other things IMO
 
If you’re looking for it to be exactly phrased like “I am the best rapper” then of course u not gon hear it.

But that’s def not true. Kanye most certainly was saying he was the best when he was his peak. He wasn’t out here like “I’m the most influential” :lol cmon
 
Lmfao how do you know what they want :rofl:

Kanye when he was really at his peak said he was the best for years...what are you talking about

Someone who doesn't write their own stuff said they were the best? For obvious reasons you don't see the humor in that :lol:
 
Someone who doesn't write their own stuff said they were the best? For obvious reasons you don't see the humor in that :lol:

Whether or not u believe it or think it’s funny is a diffrent conversation. Point is he definitely used to say it.
 
Jesus Christ ya'll guzzling that man :lol:

Personally i'm glad Rocky has changed up his sound & style it would have been extremely redundant in this era. Outside of the Cozy Tapes All his projects have been a nice mix of sounds & not too reliant on one thing, so i'm eager to hear what this sounds like.

Also i think he wants to be viewed bigger as an overall artist/influencer where Wale really wants the critical/Fanfare of being a top rapper. From the Music, to the Aesthetic, to the videos/photoshoots the entire A$AP mob has always been into that "artistic" vibe. They thing from day one was Harlem street **** mixing in with the Soho Art vibe. None of the stuff he's done recently should come as a surprise.

I understand why certain rappers start getting more into that lane that separates them from "rap". It's like the hiphop crowd gets in arms whenever you do something outside of the usual average rapper stereotypes.

Vince Staples was 100% correct on Joey Badass podcast

I think it has more to do with just lacking self awareness. What has he exactly has he done to deserve praise as an "Artist"? Some photoshoots and A E S T H E T I C? :lol:

All of his "artistic vibe" has basically just been run of the mill Tumblr stuff man. That Riot Rave "art video" was just a bunch of Tumblr kids in Off-White shorts running around knocking over trashcans, referring to that as a "riot" or "**** getting real" is cringe at best.

He just has a really really good brand and good stylist at the end of the day. His young fans gassed him up for having "different" videos and he just ran with it.

It's like Wale going up on Everyday Struggle and tryna breakdown some lyrics for AK like they were just :wow:, in reality they weren't even that crazy or deep so it was just awkward
 
I think it has more to do with just lacking self awareness. What has he exactly has he done to deserve praise as an "Artist"? Some photoshoots and A E S T H E T I C? :lol:

All of his "artistic vibe" has basically just been run of the mill Tumblr stuff man. That Riot Rave "art video" was just a bunch of Tumblr kids in Off-White shorts running around knocking over trashcans, referring to that as a "riot" or "**** getting real" is cringe at best.

He just has a really really good brand and good stylist at the end of the day. His young fans gassed him up for having "different" videos and he just ran with it.

It's like Wale going up on Everyday Struggle and tryna breakdown some lyrics for AK like they were just :wow:, in reality they weren't even that crazy or deep so it was just awkward

Again Art is subjective, my point is moreso that anytime someone does try to go out the box they're told to just stick to being a rapper or trying to "cater to the art crowd" as if they aren't musicians who do put thought, strategy & emotion into their form of art which usually starts as music. It isn't just Rocky this is thrown on damn near any rapper who transitioned into other forms of art.

It's like once your labeled a rapper every other idea you have or anything else you try to accomplish is deemed through different lenses. Like the thought of trying to be labeled a true artist is cheapened once you spit a 16.
 
Again Art is subjective, my point is moreso that anytime someone does try to go out the box they're told to just stick to being a rapper or trying to "cater to the art crowd" as if they aren't musicians who do put thought, strategy & emotion into their form of art which usually starts as music. It isn't just Rocky this is thrown on damn near any rapper who transitioned into other forms of art.

It's like once your labeled a rapper every other idea you have or anything else you try to accomplish is deemed through different lenses. Like the thought of trying to be labeled a true artist is cheapened once you spit a 16.

The real problem is a lot of these _'s don't view rap as a legitimate form of Art in itself because some stuffy old white men haven't validated it as such.

All these corny _'s be on some "I'm not just a rapper bro I'm an ArTiST" or "I do more than rap, I make MUSIC" :smh:

_'s just learned what the term contemporary mean and expecting to get respected by the art world or as an "ArTiST" :lol::stoneface:
 
The real problem is a lot of these _'s don't view rap as a legitimate form of Art in itself because some stuffy old white men haven't validated it as such.

All these corny _'s be on some "I'm not just a rapper bro I'm an ArTiST" or "I do more than rap, I make MUSIC" :smh:

As if being a rapper is degrading

There's a reason for this tho... because when you say rapper a lot of the times it's viewed in a negative light or viewed as a non intellectual thing.

Their was an interview Jay had around when MCHG when he was speaking on his status & he said something to the effect of he's not only in competition with the greatest rappers of all time, but the greatest Writers period. & i think that's the feeling a lot of people who say that type of thing have, there's nothing wrong with being considered a great rapper, but that's viewed as having a certain ceiling. I like that these artist are pushing to broaden the values of hiphop amongst great creators in any other field.

And Again it's not simply because old white guys don't consider it... a lot of our parents don't see the genius & talent it takes to be a rapper. A lot of artist don't put thought or effort into the songs they release, a lot of the fans will listen to a project someone took two years to make listen 2-3 times & disregard & ask for something new,

our entire Genre is semi responsible for the way hiphop is viewed as a legitimate artform & i like that artist are pushing for that, even if it means stepping into other lanes to get more shine.
 
There's a reason for this tho... because when you say rapper a lot of the times it's viewed in a negative light or viewed as a non intellectual thing.

Their was an interview Jay had around when MCHG when he was speaking on his status & he said something to the effect of he's not only in competition with the greatest rappers of all time, but the greatest Writers period. & i think that's the feeling a lot of people who say that type of thing have, there's nothing wrong with being considered a great rapper, but that's viewed as having a certain ceiling. I like that these artist are pushing to broaden the values of hiphop amongst great creators in any other field.

And Again it's not simply because old white guys don't consider it... a lot of our parents don't see the genius & talent it takes to be a rapper. A lot of artist don't put thought or effort into the songs they release, a lot of the fans will listen to a project someone took two years to make listen 2-3 times & disregard & ask for something new,

our entire Genre is semi responsible for the way hiphop is viewed as a legitimate artform & i like that artist are pushing for that, even if it means stepping into other lanes to get more shine.

That’s just art tho. There’s a BIG portion of the general public that think any painting that doesn’t look photorealistic could be done by their 7 year old kid. At the end of the day who cares? As an artist that should be the last thing on your mind.

So because rap is viewed in a negative light and non intellectual you think _'s breaking their neck to shed the title like its some unwanted stigma is gonna help people respect it? Why would somebody else respect it when you not respecting it and being proud of it yourself? It’s just some branding **** for whatever artist at the end of the day. The practice of making ceramic vases was largely seen as "craft" and non intellectual/not high art too...and then Grayson Perry won the Turner Prize

These half baked attempts at crossing into the art world just make rappers look bad imo. Art folks clowned that Jay Z Picasso Baby **** OD hard and then called Marina Abramovich a sellout for even being involved. Then she turned around and **** on the whole thing herself afterwards because she thought her money never came through. These the types of folks we looking for validation from? These ppl treated Basquiat the same way which ultimately led to his demise...

Edit: We got black artists out here tryna destroy the art world gallery system because of how racist and belittling it is too black art and artists but then we got rappers on the other side tryna get in it for their own branding opportunities, just doesn't make sense to me

I get the general sentiment of what you saying and I think some of these _'s have that type of stuff in mind themselves but that type of stuff just looks like an inferiority complex to me
 
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