Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread

[Kierris]

Hardly disingenuous. There’s been a lot of complaints about female rap on NT and on other outlets, yet hardly any light is shined on the women out there who are doing their things in a more substantive way. Rhap is fire, but some folks would rather harp on the Megs and Glorillas of the world than acknowledge the former.

I mean yeah that tends to happen when the latter is what 99.9% of audience hears and see. I could go ask 10 women right now if they know Rhapsody and MAYBE two of them would know her meanwhile they all would know the latter... Please stop being disingenuous, y'all always on that 'bu bu but what about' crap when these discussions take place.

 

[frankmatthews]

I rock with female rappers. Always have. Growing up we listened to everybody in my house, so the women rappers got their play as well. MC Lyte, Salt n Pepa, Lauryn Hill, Lil Kim, Da Brat, Missy, Eve, Mia X, Queen Pen, Foxy, Gangsta Boo, Trina, LaChat, Vita, Charlie Baltimore, Rah Digga...list goes on. Some are better than others but I got no problem saying I am a fan of many of them.

Now fast forward to modern day. I feel like there are hella more acts. But some are obviously the cream of the crop (Nicki, Cardi), then you go the upper mid tier Megan, Glo, Sexxy Red, Latto, (City Girls once upon a time). The up and coming acts (Monaleo, Doechii etc) and then you got the joints you just dont take seriously (Ice Spice , Saweetie'nem).

My wife listens to a lot of female rap so Im constantly hearing it, some I enjoy and some I dont really care for. I think its ok to be critical of female rappers. Its hard to do so in this day and age with all the PC talk and you have to really be careful in how you word your critique because then people will think you have something against women. But as long as the conversation is done in good faith it can happen.

In my opinion the content these chicks are rapping about aint too too far off from what was being said back then. Trina and Lil Kim definitely had some WILD lyrics in the 90s/2000's, but they was just talkin they shxt. So when I hear the female rappers of today talk bout how they finessin dudes or how good they P is or other sexual exploits it doesnt ring an alarm because ALL artists talk about this.

The content in women rap is by far a lot less scathing than the things we have to hear men rap about. I just feel a lot of people have certain expectations of women overall, and when they see/hear them talk about vulgar topics (things that everyone talks about anyways) it turns them away, which at the end of the day is perfectly fine, but I think its silly to have this double standard when ppl dont trip off what the guys be rappin about.

Now that you mention it, I ****** with da brat. And that first Missy album is a classic. I actually bought that, but she was singing on there and doing a lot of outside the box stuff.

I'm not even really tryna judge these new females for their content or their image or if the music is good or not. I think they should continue doing their thing. Its just as a male, im not personally tryna listen to it lol. Can't relate. Can't be impressed with a bar when it's about poppin ***** or finessin dudes. It's weird to try to vibe to that imo.

The other aspect is, and somebody brought up men writing for these women, a lot of it just too aggressive and masculine. It's offputting. Maybe I'm sexist or patriarchal or whatever lol, but I'm avoiding loud, aggressive, masculine females in any setting.

 

[frankmatthews]

No.

But when Friday hits, and that Don Julio is opened we need the yambs on go.

See this is another thing i don't get. I hear this come up a lot in these discussions. Playing music I dislike because it'll keep the women you're with happy is kinda lame, borderline simpish. When I was outchea, the **** gonna listen to what we listening to otherwise you can leave and listen to Drake on your way home if that's what you want.

But then again, in those days the chicks didn't really listen to rap music like that, and if they did it was usually some mainstream pop male rapper they thought was cute. Wasn't too many if any female rappers in a lot of that era, chicks wasn't pressed to hear the new eve or Lil kim.